Ok, perhaps I am brain dead, but for the life of me - I am overlooking perhaps what is an obvious answer.
I am recording piano music in Protools 7.4 Then exporting the midi file. When I import it in Sibelius, it shows as a single stave score - instead of a treble and bass clef score.
Laugh, scorn, empathize or shake your head in amazement that I haven't found the obvious answer. I have dug around in the knowledge base but so far am coming up with zip.
So if you have a second - can you please tell me what I am doing wrong? Better yet, how do I fix it? I will be happy to raise a glass and toast your name when you can.
Thank you both for your help - I really appreciate it. I am using Sibelius First 6.1.5 and not exactly clear. Here are the steps I use:
1. File
2. Open
3. Select my midi file
4. Get the following window
I have attached a screen shot of the window and results. I have tried various combinations in the midi window but am still coming up with single stave.
Your help is greatly appreciated here and I hope to return the favor to you some day too.
Ed, you failed earlier to say that you were using only Sibelius First, and not the full product. So earlier replies related to the full product. I guess that your possibilities are limited in First.
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Sibelius 6.2, PhotoScore Ult 6.1, Dolet 5.6 for Sibelius, Windows 7 SP1, 4GB RAM
Ed, try a different file as that one has too many problems (it's not lined up in 3/4). If a one-stave piece has two voices (blue and green), you can always use filter/voice one and copy and paste each voice to it's own stave. First off though, make sure the original file is lined up properly.
Also, that piece is in 9/8 usually, it's Jesu, Joy of man's Desiring. Try 9/8 and set triplets to "none" and see what happens.
Unfortunately, Sibelius First does not have filters either.
All these things are possible, though not trivial, in Sibelius, but they require features that are not available in First.
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Bob
Sib 1.2 - 6.2, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, 2.13 GHz Core 2 Duo; Audiophile 2496; 4 G RAM. Year 2011.
I am an experienced Sibelius user, but am not affiliated with Sibelius Software.
Sib Plugin downloads: www.sibelius.com/download/plugins (see How to Install Plugins; use Vista for Windows 7)
Alphabetical plugin list: www.bobzawalich.com/AllPluginsOnDownloadPage.htm
I didn't know about the lack of filters, bummer. Even so, set your time sig in Pro Tools to 9/8 if possible, and then set "no triplets" in Sibelius. It won't help the 2-stave problem but it might help that mess on the jpg!
Thank you all for your posts. Figuring that Sibelius First does not have the filters, I bit the bullet and purchased Sibelius 6 and imported the same three Midi files again - with same results - 1 stave.
Now I am sure I must be doing something wrong - is it possible that my ProTools is saving the midi file in a one stave format?
Thanks for your help - I am under the gun to deliver three scores tomorrow (Monday) and sincerely appreciate your support!
Assuming you have not checked "one staff only" on the MIDI import dialog (see screenshot), then the sequencer must be treating the music as a single staff.
The simplest thing to do at this point (if you can;t figure out how to get the MIDI sequencer to producer 2 staves) is to create a new piano instrument in the score for each piano you have, copy all the music from the staff with the music to one of the staves of the piano, then run with Plugins > Simplify Notation > Change Split Point
or Plugins > Simplify Notation > explode, either of which will move some of the music onto the empty staff.
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Bob
Sib 1.2 - 6.2, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, 2.13 GHz Core 2 Duo; Audiophile 2496; 4 G RAM. Year 2011.
I am an experienced Sibelius user, but am not affiliated with Sibelius Software.
Sib Plugin downloads: www.sibelius.com/download/plugins (see How to Install Plugins; use Vista for Windows 7)
Alphabetical plugin list: www.bobzawalich.com/AllPluginsOnDownloadPage.htm
Make sure that you have a program change to program 0 or program 1 in the track in your MIDI file that you want to be opened on two staves in Sibelius, then in Sibelius make sure that you have 'MIDI file uses this sound set' switched on and set to 'General MIDI'.
Well thank again to one and all in regards to my one midi file into two staves piano dilemma. Although I tried all the suggestions, I ended up using Bob Zawalich's one of copying and pasting and adjusting the set point.
I ended up with the following piece of sheet music in my inaugural try. FWIW, I did make it half way through the first tutorial, before having to abandon ship to get this project printed in time for today.
I have attached the piece - and welcome any comments. The piece is actually a bouncy 6-2-5-1 type and somewhat easy to play. However, on sheet music is looks daunting to me. And the irony is - I am sending it to my wife's 17 year old niece to perform in an upcoming play.
Does this look confusing to you? Any suggestions on how it should look better?
Thanks again for all of your help - I am a rookie with Sibelius and appreciate your help greatly!
The first thing I would try is to use Plug-ins > Simplify Notation > Renotate Performance to see whether that makes a good fist of cleaning up the notation.
Here is how to do it. I am using Sibelius 7 First
Open the MIDI file, accept the defaults Triple click the part
Select "Note Input", "Explode", "Create new destination staves" and name it Piano The new part will be selected, so click "Renotate"
Go to "Home", "Remove", "Solo" (or whatever the single stave was called)
Triple click Piano2
Go to "Notations", "Clef", "Bass"
You should now have a piano score on 2 staves. If your timing is a bit rough, I suggest quantising note positions and/or lengths in a MIDI editor; I use Reaper
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