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                         Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound - Laurence Payne, 13 Jan 12:41AM
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                                                                                         Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 12:11AM
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                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 05:36PM
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                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 03:08AM
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                                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound - Mark Isaacs, 15 Jan 12:30AM
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Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 12 Jan 11:16PM (edited 12 Jan 11:18PM)
Hi folks,

I purchased NP4 last year and it has pretty much worked flawlessly for around 6 months.

This evening, when I booted-up Sibelius it played that silly orchestral fanfare (which everybody hates!) once the program had opened. I found this to be very strange because I had disabled it years ago, and so it remained muted until tonight.

But then, playing the arrangement proved quite problematic. I am able to click on one individual note (ie. on a single stave) and step through the piece manually (using the L/R arrows), note by note. This produces a sound but there is no visual reflection in the mixer.

If I attempt to play the entire score then I basically get no sound whatsoever, and again none of the meters alight in the mixer (albeit as you would expect).

I read quite a few threads of old here and also watched a handful of YT videos - but to no avail. I also changed some of the settings within Audio Engine and Playback Devices, as advised by previous members.

I'm going to upload some attachments here shortly...

Many thanks in advance for any kind assistance offered here.

Best,

Paul David Seaman (UK)

Sibelius 8.7.2 - 2018.7, Note Performer 4, Cubase 9 Pro.

Dell Inspiron 3737, Windows 10, 16GB RAM, 1.70gHz, 64-bit, Intel Core i3.

paulseaman1 (at) hotmail (dot) com

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 12 Jan 11:23PM
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 12 Jan 11:25PM
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 12 Jan 11:32PM
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 12:00AM
(NP4-4) I just tried opening a different score and was confronted with this pop-up! Cheers.
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 12:40AM (edited 13 Jan 10:13AM)
The pop-up is nothing to worry about. This will happen if you have opened a score saved with (say) Playback Configuration NP4, and, without closing Sibelius, then open a score saved in a different Playback Configuration (in this case Sibelius 7 Sounds (Jazz)). It's just asking if you want to switch to the sounds the incoming score was saved in, or keep going with your currently loaded sounds.

In relation to you sounds gremlin, if you haven't done so already, I would restart your computer, and see if it solves it. If that doesn't work, others may have suggestions. (I can't open your score because I only have Sibelius 6).

>>that silly orchestral fanfare (which everybody hates!)

Your "everybody" doesn't speak for this user! What you described as a "silly orchestra fanfare" is actually a quote from a symphony by the genius composer Jan Sibelius, who is never unwelcome in my world. I remember how in earlier versions the symphony number the quote was taken from matched the version number of the program. I came in on Version 4 with a quote from Sibelius' 4th symphony. And so on with Version 5, 6 & (I believe) 7. The 7th symphony was Sibelius' last so this game was going to end. Not having the latest program somebody might enlighten me as to which symphony is quoted now? That's if this noble tradition has been kept up? Perhaps these days it is indeed your "silly orchestral fanfare" but if not I reject your philistinic disapprobation! :)

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Laurence Payne - 13 Jan 12:41AM
The score attached to your penultimate message doesn't play because Play on Pass, in the Inspector, is turned off for every note!

Select All (Ctrl-A) then in the Inspector tick at least the first of the Play on Pass boxes.

The warning message is because the 'different score' was set to play using Sibelius 7 Sounds. As you currently had NP loaded, it was asking if you wanted to change.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 06:01PM (edited 14 Jan 12:32AM)
> The score attached to your penultimate message doesn't play because Play on Pass, in the Inspector, is turned off for every note!

Select All (Ctrl-A) then in the Inspector tick at least the first of the Play on Pass boxes.

Hi Laurence,

I performed a Ctrl-A and also tried ticking the first (and then also the second) Play on Pass boxes. But the repeats are either repeated twice (sound ignored on second pass), or sound ignored both times?

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 06:24PM
> In relation to you sounds gremlin, if you haven't done so already, I would restart your computer, and see if it solves it. If that doesn't work, others may have suggestions. (I can't open your score because I only have Sibelius 6).

Mark,

I shut-down last night overnight, and rebooting this afternoon showed no improvement. But thanks very much in any case.

I could see if I can send you my Sib. file as a 'previous' version but it's not something have I done before - and I'm not sure if the issue would translate?

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 06:47PM (edited 13 Jan 06:51PM)
>> I could see if I can send you my Sib. file as a 'previous' version but it's not something have I done before - and I'm not sure if the issue would translate?

Don't send me an export to previous version, please. Laurence identified the problem! One wonders how you defeated Play on Pass on every note? Some sort of butterfingers operation? If you have multiple repeats you should tick all the Play on Pass boxes. Perhaps you haven't understood what they're for. Play on Pass 1 is the first playing, then each box is for subsequent repeats. (A "pass" is a play through).

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 06:49PM
> The pop-up is nothing to worry about. This will happen if you have opened a score saved with (say) Playback Configuration NP4, and, without closing Sibelius, then open a score saved in a different Playback Configuration (in this case Sibelius 7 Sounds (Jazz)). It's just asking if you want to switch to the sounds the incoming score was saved in, or keep going with your currently loaded sounds.

Mark,

Thanks a lot. I would like to use NP4 on everything actually. I noticed there is an option to "do not show again". I'll need to test it again with my other pre-NP4 scores...

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 07:02PM
> Don't send me an export to previous version, please. Laurence identified the problem! One wonders how you defeated Play on Pass on every note? Some sort of butterfingers operation? If you have multiple repeats you should tick all the Play on Pass boxes. Perhaps you haven't understood what they're for. Play on Pass 1 is the first playing, then each box is for subsequent repeats. (A "pass" is a play through).

Mark,

I think I'm trying to work too fast for my own good!

I have always viewed "Play on Pass" as being similar to the term "take" in the studio world. If you played the recording in one "pass" then you completed it in a single "take".

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 07:14PM

>> I have always viewed "Play on Pass" as being similar to the term "take" in the studio world. If you played the recording in one "pass" then you completed it in a single "take".

Not at all. It refers to written repeats in a score. These are the "passes" it speaks of.

Unticking Play on Pass is also how you stop playback of certain notes and objects. Hence your score not playing back.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 07:17PM
Cheers, Mark. I'll take another look after dinner...

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 08:46PM
>> I would like to use NP4 on everything actually. I noticed there is an option to "do not show again". I'll need to test it again with my other pre-NP4 scores...

Invoking the option "Do not show again" on that popup is not sufficient for what you want. The popup only appears as a warning when attempting to move from scores saved in one one Playback Configuration to another in the same Sibelius session.

If you want to have NP4 automatically used in all instances on all your pre-NP4 scores, open each one in turn, change the Playback Configuration to NP4, and then save.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 09:53PM (edited 13 Jan 10:14PM)
> Your "everybody" doesn't speak for this user! What you described as a "silly orchestra fanfare" is actually a quote from a symphony by the genius composer Jan Sibelius, who is never unwelcome in my world. I remember how in earlier versions the symphony number the quote was taken from matched the version number of the program. I came in on Version 4 with a quote from Sibelius' 4th symphony. And so on with Version 5, 6 & (I believe) 7. The 7th symphony was Sibelius' last so this game was going to end. Not having the latest program somebody might enlighten me as to which symphony is quoted now? That's if this noble tradition has been kept up? Perhaps these days it is indeed your "silly orchestral fanfare" but if not I reject your philistinic disapprobation! :)

Mark,

It was around twelve years ago when I first began dabbling with Sibelius. I think I started on Sibelius version 6 or 7, but it had a term afterwards like 'Student' or 'Artist'? I can't remember to be honest. But in any event I was completely unaware of the correlation between the version and symphony numbers.

Perhaps I should have been a little less flippant in my remark.

I actually do remember a thread here (from a good while back) when a member asked if there was any possible way of substituting his own personal sound-clip instead. But a member responded advising Sibelius' own start-up music was intrinsically embedded into the program (paraphrase).

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 10:10PM (edited 13 Jan 10:52PM)
Thanks for being so gracious about my stringent response to your "flippancy". Though I stand by what I said, I was just being passionately rhetorical and meant no real harm. But, yes, if you presume to speak for "everybody" you will inevitably get blowback!

The coinage I used to prosecute you in your attitude to excerpts from Sibelius' (the composer's) symphonies - viz. "philistinic disapprobation" - came to me spontaneously, and I'm rather pleased with it even if I do say so myself. I allowed myself the indulgence of doing a Google search, in quotes, for it, the quotes meaning for Google to look for both those words side-by-side in the same order, and Google was unable to find any instance at all. Since Google has indexed most books as well as the entire internet, I might claim to be the first to have written that down (though it may well have been uttered verbally). In a few weeks, that same search will presumably turn up this thread.

I'm still hoping someone here will tell me if a quote from a Sibelius symphony is still used as the start-up music in current and recent versions, and if so, which symphony is now excerpted.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 10:37PM
> Thanks for being so gracious about my stringent response to your "flippancy". Though I stand by what I said, I was just being passionately rhetorical and meant no real harm. But, yes, if you presume to speak for "everybody" you will inevitably get blowback!

Mark,

What I partially meant (and I'm certainly not trying to wriggle out of my earlier statement), was the very fact there WAS indeed some form of music upon the opening of the splash-page; meaning its sheer presence was "cheesy" (I did not realize it was J. Sibelius himself until you personally informed me!). In fact, and this is the truth, everyone I know (well perhaps not absolutely "everyone"), would roll their eyes back during such moments; and were most delighted when I told them they could disable it by simply jumping to Preferences.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 10:41PM
> I'm still hoping someone here will tell me if a quote from a Sibelius symphony is still used as the start-up music in current and recent versions, and if so, which symphony is now excerpted.

Mark,

If the suspense is still killing you then I suppose you could always download a one-month free-trial? Open it and listen, then uninstall it!

Even I wouldn't go as far as that! ;-)

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 10:50PM (edited 13 Jan 11:01PM)
> The coinage I used to prosecute you in your attitude to excerpts from Sibelius' (the composer's) symphonies - viz. "philistinic disapprobation" - came to me spontaneously, and I'm rather pleased with it even if I do say so myself. I allowed myself the indulgence of doing a Google search, in quotes, for it, the quotes meaning for Google to look for both those words side-by-side in the same order, and Google was unable to find any instance at all. Since Google has indexed most books as well as the entire internet, I might claim to be the first to have written that down (though it may well have been uttered verbally). In a few weeks, that same search will presumably turn up this thread.

Mark,

Yes, quite. It's a very striking idiom, I remember thinking last evening.

I sometimes use Google to confirm the spelling of words (eg. when the website has no spell-check facility). And also for synonyms and antonyms (of which I find is usually very helpful).

Good work my friend!

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 10:55PM

Nice to chat OT. But it would be also good to hear you fixed your inexplicable unticking of all Play on Pass boxes across an entire score, such unmitigated global self-sabotage having brought you here again for help.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 13 Jan 11:13PM
> But it would be also good to hear you fixed your inexplicable unticking of all Play on Pass boxes across an entire score, such unmitigated global self-sabotage having brought you here again for help.

Mark,

Yes, sure. Well Laurence's method did not work (for me at least), unfortunately. And, having now opened a handful of scores this evening, it's become apparent other projects are similarly impacted.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 13 Jan 11:39PM (edited 14 Jan 12:21AM)
>> Yes, sure. Well Laurence's method did not work (for me at least), unfortunately. And, having now opened a handful of scores this evening, it's become apparent other projects are similarly impacted.

Is it possible you're not paying attention sufficiently? Laurence told you to tick the first box at least. But apparently your score has repeats? In which case you need tick all the damn boxes as I told you above (to be safe).

Laurence didn't offer you a "method". Laurence solved your problem. If Play on Pass is unticked for the entire score, playback has been entirely defeated (except when you click on or step though individual notes/chords; symptoms you noted) and it needs to be fixed by ticking what was unticked. Plain and simple.

So you are saying in other scores you have somehow managed to untick Play on Pass for the entire score?

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Laurence Payne - 14 Jan 12:11AM (edited 14 Jan 12:16AM)
I believe Paul has only recently embraced any use at all of Sibelius playback. I used to receive scores from him with playback completely disabled. I don't quite remember how he achieved this, but it could well have been by unticking all the Play on Pass boxes. (Or was it done by setting the main Mixer fader to zero?)

On a Windows system, you'll find both 'Startup Sound.wav' and 'Startup Sound_first.wav' (the Sibelius Ultimate and Sibelius Artist/First versions) in C:\ProgramData\Avid\Sibelius\Resources. I've just tried, and they can be replaced by any wav file with the same name.

Here's a link to a Reddit post that catalogues some of them. Doesn't seem to have changed since Sibelius 8.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sibelius/comments/1e09nb3/startup_music_from_every_version_of_sibelius/

Lord only knows how Paul's startup sound suddenly became enabled. I know he said he'd been messing with playback settings, but the switch for the startup sound is in Preferences/Other, a long way from the audio setting page.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 12:32AM
Thanks Laurence, re that Reddit list. It seems the correlation of version to symphony number is only confirmed for Version 6 & 7. I thought it was the case for 5, but the time-coded YouTube link confirms not. The jury's out for now re 4 and earlier.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 14 Jan 12:46AM
> Is it possible you're not paying attention sufficiently? Laurence told you to tick the first box at least. But apparently your score has repeats? In which case you need tick all the damn boxes as I told you above (to be safe).

Mark,

I did experiment with yours/Laurence's advice in ticking the Play On Pass boxes. Not once did any combination produce the desired outcome. In fact, I'm pretty certain Laurence once covered this method with me on here last year (or whenever it was I started to listening back to my pieces for errors etc).

This all began on Sunday when the Sibelius excerpt sounded during start-up. And also the notification pop-up appeared asking if I wanted to switch library (of which I am very grateful for the explanation). But this evening, as mentioned, the pop-up is infested in the four or five random big-band pieces I tested. That said, I am now aware of the method to correct, thanks.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 12:51AM
Again, the pop-ups are to be expected in the circumstances described, are of no concern and bear no relation to non-playback.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 12:55AM (edited 14 Jan 05:36AM)
>> as mentioned, the pop-up is infested in the four or five random big-band pieces I tested.

I think I misunderstood you then. You said "it's become apparent other projects are similarly impacted" and I took "similar" to mean they didn't play back. It seems now you mean that they similarly cause a pop-up when opened? That, my friend, is "behaviour as expected" and not at all an issue. Correlation is not always causation.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 14 Jan 12:53AM
> If Play on Pass is unticked for the entire score, playback has been entirely defeated (except when you click on or step though individual notes/chords; symptoms you noted) and it needs to be fixed by ticking what was unticked. Plain and simple.

Mark,

(Please see screenshot.)

This is the only workaround I have found and it's taken a whole day.

In short I switched it from Automatic to Manual, with a kinda' fiddling of the bar numbers to get them precise.

Paul
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 14 Jan 12:54AM
> Again, the pop-ups are to be expected in the circumstances described, are of no concern and bear no relation to non-playback.

Thanks a lot again, Mark

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 14 Jan 01:00AM
> It seems now you mean that they similarly cause a pop-up when opened? That my friend is "behaviour as expected" and not at all an issue. Correlation is not always causation.

OK Mark, thanks a lot. I appreciate we have been jumping around issues quite a bit this evening, so probably my fault! Cheers, Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 14 Jan 01:03AM
> I believe Paul has only recently embraced any use at all of Sibelius playback. I used to receive scores from him with playback completely disabled. I don't quite remember how he achieved this, but it could well have been by unticking all the Play on Pass boxes. (Or was it done by setting the main Mixer fader to zero?)

LP - I did not begin using Playback until early last year (I believe it was). Yes, correct, the Mixer master was set to zero. Cheers, Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 01:05AM (edited 14 Jan 01:28AM)
I looked at your "workaround". This is becoming difficult to follow. It now appears you claim the problem was your repeat structure was incorrect. Are you saying you have aborted Laurence's fix and gone back to unticked Play on Pass boxes and all is well? That makes no sense. If you have kept the boxes ticked, then Laurence's solution "worked", it's just that the reinstated playback courtesy of Laurence revealed another entirely separate playback problem with your score, namely a broken repeat structure, which you have found a fix for. That's my diagnosis anyway.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 01:09AM (edited 14 Jan 10:23PM)
>> Yes, correct, the Mixer master was set to zero.

Well, smoking gun anyone?

EDIT 1: cancel that previous ignorant sentence of mine! 0.0dB is actually the default position of the Mixer master. It does NOT mean no sound! So in this case, zero ain't zero. It just means a relative volume level of 0dB. Playback is for all intents and purposes silent by the lowest setting of -64.0dB.

EDIT 2: Laurence points out below that the current versions of the Sibelius Mixer, unlike my Sibelius 6 Mixer, are not calibrated in dB, but rather 0-127, so that zero really is zero. In which case, the OP's problems do have an additional smoking gun: issues with non-playback and a master fader he has told us is set to zero.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Laurence Payne - 14 Jan 05:36PM
> Well, smoking gun anyone? EDIT: cancel that previous ignorant sentence of mine! 0.0dB is actually the default position of the Mixer master. It does NOT mean no sound! So in this case, zero ain't zero. It just means a relative volume level of 0dB. Playback is for all intents and purposes silent by the lowest setting of -64.0dB.
>

The Sibelius mixer isn't calibrated in dB. Nominal position is labelled 100, maximum is 127, zero is zero.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 06:37PM (edited 14 Jan 07:10PM)
>>The Sibelius mixer isn't calibrated in dB. Nominal position is labelled 100, maximum is 127, zero is zero.

I think then that I was speaking only for my Sibelius 6 Mixer, which clearly shows dB as its scale.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Laurence Payne - 14 Jan 03:08AM
> > If Play on Pass is unticked for the entire score, playback has been entirely defeated (except when you click on or step though individual notes/chords; symptoms you noted) and it needs to be fixed by ticking what was unticked. Plain and simple.
>
> Mark,
>
> (Please see screenshot.)
>
> This is the only workaround I have found and it's taken a whole day.
>
> In short I switched it from Automatic to Manual, with a kinda' fiddling of the bar numbers to get them precise.
>
> Paul
>


This opens a whole new can of worms! A score that requires a manual playback map is failing for one reason - because it has a broken repeat structure that is preventing playback from proceeding. Sibelius doesn't know what to play next, so it stops.

But this wasn't the case with the score 'Inside_(BB).sib. which you shared. In that score, all the Play on Pass boxes were un-ticked.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 03:26AM
Basically what I said in response, Laurence, but glad you agree.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 14 Jan 03:38AM (edited 14 Jan 11:42PM)

I think Paul is rolling more than one problem (plus a non-problem re the pop-ups) all into one. This thread needed 6 threads for unrelated issues requiring solving or explaining and it seems from what you say Laurence that more than one score is involved:

1. Complete non-playback (due to all Play on Pass boxes unticked, though no explanation as to how this occurred)
2. Partial non-playback (due to broken repeat structure; common issue)
3. A misunderstanding causing discomfiture with the pop-up boxes warning that Playback Configuration is about to change (they are benign)
4. An explanation of how to change the Playback Configuration of a score permanently (offered by me but not acknowledged)
5. An explanation of why the start-up music reinstated itself (unsolved as yet, but possibly user error)
6. The implications on the above needing exploration of the OP saying his master fader was set to zero (unresolved)

Paul, none of these things (except 6.!) have any relation to any of the others, and you really should stop seeing them as all ONE thing and drawing the conclusion that Laurence's solution didn't work. Laurence's solution fixed Issue #1. It did not fail on the basis that it didn't fix Issue #2. You shouldn't have expected it to fix Issue #2, which is an entirely different issue! (Though I admit I was initially deceived by limited information into thinking the repeats not working were because you didn't tick enough "Pass" boxes).

In fact, I imagine it was the success of Laurence's solution to Issue #1 which made Issue #2 audible to you! Correlation is not necessarily causation.

And congratulations on working around Issue #2 by yourself.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 12:21AM
> This thread needed 6 threads for unrelated issues requiring solving or explaining...

Mark,

I did genuinely apologise for this, to you, within a thread of yesterday.

("I appreciate we have been jumping around issues quite a bit this evening, so probably my fault!").

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 12:30AM (edited 15 Jan 12:36AM)
No apologies necessary. I was only trying to codify and summarise the thread, not criticise. And to demarcate the issues where the lines between them had seemed to blur.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 12:40AM
Having clarified the above, just from my own point of view I wish to treat this thread as if closed, as I have run out of time investment for it. Nothing personal at all intended and I only wished to help at all times. Of course carry on if you wish!

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 12:42AM (edited 15 Jan 12:47AM)
> "The implications on the above needing exploration of the OP saying his master fader was set to zero (unresolved)"

Mark,

My Master Volume (I believe it's called on my version) was left set as per screenshot for around eight years (because I never used Playback, as far as I can remember). Laurence did make few passing comments in relation to this whenever I would upload a Sib. file to this forum every so often.

But since purchasing NP4 last September I did begin to implement it into my work (but only for big-band arrangements, not small-band). Here, and as in the score in question, the Master Volume fader is set to '0.0dB'.

Each individual channel is set to '100'.

Paul
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 12:46AM
> No apologies necessary. I was only trying to codify and summarise the thread, not criticise. And to demarcate the issues where the lines between them had seemed to blur.

OK, cheers Mark.

For some reason (again!) I have stopped receiving notifications for when a 'reply' has been left on this thread. Anyway, it always resolves itself over a short spell.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 12:52AM
> Having clarified the above, just from my own point of view I wish to treat this thread as if closed, as I have run out of time investment for it. Nothing personal at all intended and I only wished to help at all times. Of course carry on if you wish!

That's fine, Mark.

Your time is your own and I am grateful for your input, again.

I intended to share today's findings here this evening, but I'm simply too tired as my eyes are worn out from screen-staring.

Have a good afternoon,

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 12:55AM
LP - I'll post your reply tomorrow as I'm closing down shortly. Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 12:57AM
> No apologies necessary. I was only trying to codify and summarise the thread, not criticise. And to demarcate the issues where the lines between them had seemed to blur.

Mark,

Yes indeed, the thread has jumped around quite significantly!

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 01:20AM (edited 15 Jan 01:25AM)
> On a Windows system, you'll find both 'Startup Sound.wav' and 'Startup Sound_first.wav' (the Sibelius Ultimate and Sibelius Artist/First versions) in C:\ProgramData\Avid\Sibelius\Resources. I've just tried, and they can be replaced by any wav file with the same name.

Superb, Laurence.

It's great for one to be able to substitute with their own jingle. I'll link the sound-clip (below) incase anyone wants to borrow it. LOL!

EZ_Drummer VST for drums (obviously!). Everything else was performed 'live' on a Nord Electro 6, in one take. Mixed in Cubase. The piece is called 'Mirage'.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Laurence Payne - 15 Jan 01:42AM (edited 15 Jan 01:47AM)
>Here, and as in the score in question, the Master Volume fader is set to '0.0dB'.
>
> Each individual channel is set to '100'.
>
> Paul

For what little it's worth, the Sibelius mixer actually labels the bottom of the Master slider as -64dB and the nominal position as 0dB. This has been so since at least Sibelius 6. I have no idea why it changes to the 0-127 scale for individual channels.
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 02:32AM

> For what little it's worth, the Sibelius mixer actually labels the bottom of the Master slider as -64dB and the nominal position as 0dB. This has been so since at least Sibelius 6. I have no idea why it changes to the 0-127 scale for individual channels.

LP - Thanks a lot. Perhaps the necessity of using a different unit for the individual Instrument Channels is to ensure a flush relationship between them and the MIDI protocol? In a world where everything exists between either 0-127 or 1-128. Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 09:25PM (edited 15 Jan 09:26PM)
> But this wasn't the case with the score 'Inside_(BB).sib. which you shared. In that score, all the Play on Pass boxes were un-ticked.

LP,

Yeah, don't remind me! LOL

If I can't solve it using your's and Mark's solutions then after tonight I'm going to have to abandon it, sorry. I really do appreciate the very kind assistance, of course. It's just that I have been on this matter since Sunday (and I could have sketched out a brand new arrangement in that time). I usually get close, or exact, to the remedies I'm offered here, but (for me) this one is a real spanner in the works. I can PROMISE you that I have gone over the steps again and again, honestly, but to no avail.

The ONLY way it will produce the desired results (and I KNOW this is wrong) is by clicking on the first two check-boxes of 'Play on Pass', and then in the 'Repeats' window clicking 'Manual Playback' and dictating (in the verbatim) the measures to be looped. Absolutely no deviation whatsoever from this combination will work, and I have experimented countless times. For me, I lean towards the 'broken repeat structure' theory.

Cheers.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 09:32PM (edited 15 Jan 10:58PM)
> An explanation of why the start-up music reinstated itself (unsolved as yet, but possibly user error)

(Mark)/LP,

I don't see how I could have inadvertently performed this because I have left it set for circa 8 years. In fact, I had totally forgotten how to disable it and therefore (I can't remember which?) I either had to Google it or perhaps Laurence had posted it somewhere accessible.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 10:08PM (edited 15 Jan 10:47PM)
> Complete non-playback (due to all Play on Pass boxes unticked, though no explanation as to how this occurred)

(Mark)/LP,

I know we believe it's a 'broken repeat structure'. But setting less than two, or more than two, check-boxes to 'active' disrupts the amount of dictated repeats.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 10:16PM (edited 15 Jan 10:46PM)
> Partial non-playback (due to broken repeat structure; common issue)

(Mark)/LP,

Again, I know we believe it's a 'broken repeat structure'. Setting less than two, or more than two, (Play on Pass) check-boxes to 'active' induces 'silent' playback at certain points of the score.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 10:21PM (edited 15 Jan 10:45PM)
> A misunderstanding causing discomfiture with the pop-up boxes warning that Playback Configuration is about to change

(Mark)/LP,

I opened such a score and made sure it was set to NP4, saved and closed it. Since then the message has not appeared ever again, in any project, for three consecutive days.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 10:32PM (edited 15 Jan 10:45PM)
> The implications on the above needing exploration of the OP saying his master fader was set to zero (unresolved)

(Mark)/LP,

Laurence responds/corrects my screenshot and subsequent post:

"For what little it's worth, the Sibelius mixer actually labels the bottom of the Master slider as -64dB and the nominal position as 0dB."

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 10:44PM
> An explanation of how to change the Playback Configuration of a score permanently (offered by me but not acknowledged)

(Mark),

I'm very sorry I failed to detect your question. I can honestly assure you that it was never my intention. I always strive to provide every respondent with a thank-you and personal reply. I hope this has not lowered your opinion of me as it was a genuine mistake of which I have come to directly address. Perhaps it was a case of tired eyes, or the fact that for two days I did not receive email notifications each time a member responds? (this problem has partially resolved itself in that today I now receive TWO notification per one message!).

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 10:46PM (edited 18 Jan 04:04AM)
>> The ONLY way it will produce the desired results (and I KNOW this is wrong) is by clicking on the first two check-boxes of 'Play on Pass', and then in the 'Repeats' window clicking 'Manual Playback' and dictating (in the verbatim) the measures to be looped. Absolutely no deviation whatsoever from this combination will work, and I have experimented countless times. For me, I lean towards the 'broken repeat structure' theory.

Why do you "KNOW this is wrong"? As explained painstakingly, these are the very solutions to the two self-inflicted SEPARATE errors you made in the score.

1. "clicking on the first two check-boxes of 'Play on Pass'".

Well, but of course you have to do that! Are you surprised by this? If you expected playback they should never ever have been unticked in the first place, the very routine that silences playback! You have to tick at least two boxes because you have a repeat(s). I have explained what a "pass" is in this context. If you had a repeat that needed to play itself three times, you'd have to tick three boxes. The default is ALL boxes ticked just in case.

>> "in the 'Repeats' window clicking 'Manual Playback' and dictating (in the verbatim) the measures to be looped."

As Laurence explained, if manual repeats are required, the repeat structure you have indicated in the score is faulty. If you don't want to/can't fix the notation, a manual repeat structure, dictating the bars you want played "verbatim" is the only other solution.

I can't understand why the tone of your posts is still that you have an unsolved problem! Are you truly surprised that the "ONLY" way playback works is to fix the playback errors made?

As for the rest: (1) No idea why the start-up music came back, one of life's mysteries. (2) Presume you are no longer unnecessarily concerned about the Playback Configuration popups when switching scores (3) You said you want to set all your scores to playback with NP4, and I explained how to do that above, which you haven't acknowledged. (4) Since we have established that your master volume was set to zero dB, not zero on a 0-127 scale, that is a non-issue touched on only because of confusion about the terms of reference.

I really hope this thread can be considered resolved now by you as OP. I said I wasn't coming back, but thought I'd try to help one more time. I need to get back to my piano practice now.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 10:51PM
>> or the fact that for two days I did not receive email notifications each time a member responds

Just forget about email notifications! They fail to work so regularly that one can simply say: they don't work. You need to manually check your threads. That's it.

And thanks for acknowledging my explanation of how to set all scores to play by NP4. We cross-posted on that. No apologies necessary.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 11:08PM
> I really hope this thread can be considered resolved now by you as OP. I said I wasn't coming back, but thought I'd try to help one more time.

Mark,

Actually I was not expecting you to return to this thread. But I wanted to be sure that I'd definitely addressed all of your questions. Which is why I went through each comment individually. I placed your name in parens because I wanted to citate your quotations, and on the slim chance that you might glance back again (which you did).

Also, last evening I promised Laurence I'd get back to him with an update of my findings to date. Thus I chose to consolidate yours and his responses (otherwise I'd have to produce twice as many messages!).

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 11:20PM (edited 15 Jan 11:49PM)
Ok, but, you have avoided addressing what I asked, even while quoting it. Please confirm that your issue is resolved. The solutions themselves i.e the fact they are needed, are not in themselves a problem! This statement of yours makes no sense:

"If I can't solve it using your's and Mark's solutions then after tonight I'm going to have to abandon it, sorry."

It IS solved. You yourself said it worked by ticking Play on Pass boxes and invoking a manual repeat structure. Done! If you want to actually fix your broken repeat structure, removing the need for a manual repeat structure, someone else can help you, best in a new thread. If you want to try yourself, the principle is: every single start repeat needs a matching end repeat, and vice versa. If you want it to play without ticking the Play on Pass boxes: not in this Universe!

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 11:28PM
> The solutions themselves i.e the fact they are needed, are not in themselves a problem!

OK, Mark. I totally understand what you mean by your statement. Thanks.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 11:29PM
>> OK, Mark. I totally understand what you mean by your statement. Thanks.

Good. So we are finished.

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 11:34PM
> If you want to actually fix your broken repeat structure, removing the need for a manual repeat structure, someone else can help you, best in a new thread. If you want to try yourself, the principle is: every single start repeat needs a matching end repeat, and vice versa.

Mark,

Well as I say, it's playing flawlessly now, thanks. And I'll open a new discussion if I do decide to delve deeper into the 'broken repeat structure'.

Paul
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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 15 Jan 11:35PM
> Good. So we are finished.

Cheers Mark,

Have a good afternoon.

Paul

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Re: Sib. 2018.x: No Note Performer (4) sound
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 15 Jan 11:40PM
Cheers, Paul. Have a good rest. Over and out.

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