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Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Wolfgang1782, 07 Jan 08:44PM
     Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Mark Isaacs, 07 Jan 08:56PM
         Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Robin Walker, 07 Jan 10:09PM
             Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Bob Zawalich, 08 Jan 03:43PM
                 Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Mark Isaacs, 09 Jan 10:25PM

Arpeggio lines need overhaul
Posted by Wolfgang1782 - 07 Jan 08:44PM
Hi I've been using Sibelius for years and really feel that the arpeggio line system should be fixed by now.

I don't use the ones with arrowheads - they are seldom seen in proper scores.

When I highlight a chord to arpeggiate, I click on 'L' for line and select the arpeggio, a tiny dot appears that I have to drag up or down and it never wants to stay where you want it. They also seldom play correctly.

The arpeggio lines seem to be tied to voice1/voice2 etc and I wonder if that's part of the issue?

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Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 07 Jan 08:56PM (edited 08 Jan 02:52AM)

Why don't you use the Arpeggio lines options in the fifth Keypad layout? They function in a much more streamlined and efficient way, since they are effectively treated as articulations. Arpeggio lines created this way automatically have the correct length and keep their horizontal alignment with the chord even when specific note positions shift within it. They also playback well. One can use Sibelius for years and still miss a workflow option like this, as it seems you have!

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Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul
Posted by Robin Walker - 07 Jan 10:09PM
The arpeggios in the "Lines" gallery are not intended to be used any more: they are retained only for compatibility with old score files.

Everyone should now be using the arpeggio lines in the fifth Keypad layout.

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Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 08 Jan 03:43PM
Note, though that in all cases arpeggio lines/properties only playback in a single staff, even though you can drag them to another staff. You can use the installable plugin Harp Arpeggios to playback notes in multiple staves. That mechanism has limitations, but is the best tool currently available for playback across staves.

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Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 09 Jan 10:25PM (edited 12 Jan 01:16AM)
I wonder if Wolfgang will come back? I'm concerned that he has overlooked such a fundamental aspect of the program for so long.

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Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Wolfgang1782, 07 Jan 08:44PM
     Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Mark Isaacs, 07 Jan 08:56PM
         Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Robin Walker, 07 Jan 10:09PM
             Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Bob Zawalich, 08 Jan 03:43PM
                 Re: Arpeggio lines need overhaul - Mark Isaacs, 09 Jan 10:25PM