'Ghost instruments/staves'

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Ghost instruments/staves - Brian Clark, 20 Sep 01:16PM
     Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Adrian Drover, 20 Sep 03:34PM
         Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Jeremy Hughes, 20 Sep 05:00PM
             Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Brian Clark, 21 Sep 09:58AM
                 Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Robin Walker, 21 Sep 12:34PM
                     Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Bob Zawalich, 21 Sep 06:55PM

Ghost instruments/staves
Posted by Brian Clark - 20 Sep 01:16PM
My colleague has input some music for me and I'm puzzled by something in it; as well as the six instrumental staves, there are upwards of a dozen "ghost" staves - they contain no music and appear as small landscape rectangles when selected as a part... Can anyone explain (a) what they are and (b) how safely to remove them?
Thanks!
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Re: Ghost instruments/staves
Posted by Adrian Drover - 20 Sep 03:34PM (edited 20 Sep 03:36PM)
I don't see any ghost staves. There are only 6 instrument staves in your score and a few correspondence messages between Brian and Owner. To remove them, select and delete.
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Re: Ghost instruments/staves
Posted by Jeremy Hughes - 20 Sep 05:00PM
Hi there

There are ghost parts (not staves). Choose Parts > Delete, highlight the blank lines in the resulting window, and choose Delete. Click Yes to the warning.

(You can highlight more than one blank line at a time by judicious use of ctrl and shift when selecting.)

There is, I think, a recent plug-in to deal with this, but doing it manually is fine.

Hope that helps
Jeremy
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Re: Ghost instruments/staves
Posted by Brian Clark - 21 Sep 09:58AM
Thanks for both your replies – I've done that.
Does either of you know HOW they came into being, or how to avoid creating them in the first place?
Thanks!
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Re: Ghost instruments/staves
Posted by Robin Walker - 21 Sep 12:34PM
> Does either of you know HOW they came into being, or how to avoid creating them in the first place?

Yes. The empty Dynamic Parts with no names came into existence because the score was edited in Sibelius version 2022.12, which had a bug causing empty Dynamic Parts with no names to be created. The bug causing those creations was fixed in the 2023 versions, but scores damaged by the bug need to be manually repaired before Parts will display in correct order.

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Re: Ghost instruments/staves
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 21 Sep 06:55PM
The installable plugin Delete Empty Parts will delete all such parts in a score. It simplifies the process, gets all the empty parts, and prevents accidentally deleting a real part, which is easy to do when there are a lot of empties.

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Ghost instruments/staves - Brian Clark, 20 Sep 01:16PM
     Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Adrian Drover, 20 Sep 03:34PM
         Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Jeremy Hughes, 20 Sep 05:00PM
             Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Brian Clark, 21 Sep 09:58AM
                 Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Robin Walker, 21 Sep 12:34PM
                     Re: Ghost instruments/staves - Bob Zawalich, 21 Sep 06:55PM