'Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4'

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Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 19 Jan 10:41PM
     Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Robin Walker, 19 Jan 11:00PM
         Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 19 Jan 11:13PM
             Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 20 Jan 10:32PM
                 Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Robin Walker, 20 Jan 11:26PM
                     Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 21 Jan 12:59AM
                         Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Robin Walker, 21 Jan 11:50AM
                             Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 21 Jan 10:25PM

Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Geoff Davey - 19 Jan 10:41PM
The sfz+/Jeux 1.4 combination worked perfectly well in my old Sib 7.5/Windows 7 installation but I cannot get it to work in Sib 2019.1/Windows 10, where it does not appear on the Installed Devices list.

I have not been able to find out if sfx+ and Jeux 1.4 are 32 bit, but I am assuming this is the problem.

I would appreciate any advice on getting this combination to work, or perhaps suggesting other software.

While NotePerformer has very good organ sounds, Jeux offers a greater range of stops and is much easier and more flexible when it comes to setting up registrations.

Thank you.
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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Robin Walker - 19 Jan 11:00PM
sfz+ was indeed 32-bit, and will not work with any version of Sibelius later than 7.5.1.

You might be able to play soundfonts using the product "sforzando":
https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando.html
which is 64-bit and works with Sibelius. It is able to translate certain other soundfont formats into the sfz format that it plays.

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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Geoff Davey - 19 Jan 11:13PM
Thank you for your prompt reply, Robin.

It is good to know Sforzando is 64 bit and I shall give it a try. I hope Jeux14.SF2 is one of the soundfont formats it can handle.

Cheers.
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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Geoff Davey - 20 Jan 10:32PM
I now have sforzando appearing in Available Devices, but I have been unable to convert the Jeux14SF2 to the required SFZ format.

sforzando reports "Cannot import Jeux14.SF2. Converter was unsuccessful".

I tried converting the file with sfZed and Polyphone but both rejected it.
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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Robin Walker - 20 Jan 11:26PM
There are other options you might like to check out:

Juicysfplugin

BassMIDI

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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Geoff Davey - 21 Jan 12:59AM
Your further interest is very much appreciated, Robin.

I have managed to get Sibelius to recognise your suggested applications - along with some others I have found - but I cannot get them to open the Jeux soundfont.

Since my only use for Jeux is to export audio files I shall simply use the Sfx+ setup on my old 32-bit laptop when required.

Thank you again for your help.
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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Robin Walker - 21 Jan 11:50AM
I am able to get Jeux14.SF2 to convert into Sforzando by drag-and-drop, and playback in Sibelius.

Maybe there is something wrong with your Jeux14.SF2 file.
My copy is 3,761,162 bytes in size.

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Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4
Posted by Geoff Davey - 21 Jan 10:25PM (edited 21 Jan 10:41PM)
Well thanks to your tenacity I have Jeux working now, Robin!

The Jeux14.SF2 I am using is the same size as yours. What I hadn't tried doing, however, was simply dragging it into Sforzando to load it. I was surprised, however, that the converted SF2 file is a .wav file. Did that happen for you too?

Would you mind telling me exactly where you installed all the components? Because I have been experimenting so much, I have ended up with a convoluted process and path:

- installed Sforzando into Program Files > Plogue
- opened Sforzando and dragged Jeux14.SF2 into it
- dragged the resulting sf2_smpl.wav file and the sforzando .dll file into Avid > VST Plugins
- set up a Sforzando/Jeux configuration in Sibelius (with two instances of sforzando as I needed to do with sfz+)

I'm sure it need not be so complicated, but now that it is working I'm afraid to change anything!

Your continuing expert advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.
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Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 19 Jan 10:41PM
     Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Robin Walker, 19 Jan 11:00PM
         Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 19 Jan 11:13PM
             Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 20 Jan 10:32PM
                 Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Robin Walker, 20 Jan 11:26PM
                     Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 21 Jan 12:59AM
                         Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Robin Walker, 21 Jan 11:50AM
                             Re: Sfz+ and Jeux 1.4 - Geoff Davey, 21 Jan 10:25PM