When I want to print parts of a score (2 instruments separately) even after saving in pdf format, all the slurs, pedals marks, dynamics, fingerings are displaced. Am I forgetting something?
I use to be able to copy a part on a new score but not anymore, so I need to print the full score, then I erase the cello, for example, in order to print the piano part and I rewrite the cello part on a separate score. It is time consuming...
> all the slurs, pedals marks, dynamics, fingerings are displaced. Am I forgetting something?
Possibly you have not realised that each Dynamic Part needs its layout to be configured and/or corrected before printing, independently of the staff for that instrument in the Full Score.
Laying out the Full Score does not lay out the Dynamic Parts.
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It sounds as if you're trying to Extract a Part as a separate sib file. This is how we used to have to make Parts before Dynamic Parts came along (in Sibelius 4). You can still do it that way if you want (Parts Tab, Extract) but Dynamic Parts will probably be more useful to you.
Yes, indeed, I am trying to extract a part as a separate sib file and also as a separate pdf file.
Today I tried Parts / Extract but the result was the same as when I export: slurs and pedal marks displaced.
Thanks, I'll keep trying to find the solution!
I appreciate that you may be working under a misapprehensions, here, but why are you extracting the parts. There is no need to do so.
To see the cello part select a bar from it in the full score and press w. The part will open in a new tab.
Do whatever formatting you need on this part - use [return] with a barline selected to force line breaks if necessary.
Useful shortcuts are as follows:
[ctrl/cmd]a - select all
[ctrl/cmd][shift]n - reset spacing
[ctrl/cmd][shift]p - reset position
[ctrl/cmd][shift]d - reset design
Your 8ve lines are overlapping and cause poor justification. Move the right hand end of the first one to the left.
Triple-click the staff then use the buttons on the layout tab to reset space above and reset space below and then use Optimize selection to layout the staves. Make any further changes until you are happy with the layout and then do the other part(s).
Most of these changes will not affect what you have already done to the score. (Changing the 8ve line length might.)
I urge you to read the manual chapter on dynamic parts. (Press F1) It's in chapter 9 - Working with parts.
Incidentally, you are also using the wrong text style for "a tempo". You should be using a system text style (Tempo by preference). If you want it underneath the staff/staves, copy the tempo text style and make the copy go below the staff by default. Using expression text, as you have, means that it will not change the tempo on playback. It also means that any changes you make to the expression text style will change the text of the a tempo as well.
You are also not using the conventional form of expression text. Most publishers use the bold italic form of the letters, which sibelius has special glyphs for. To produce these glyphs, you need to keep [ctrl/cmd] pressed while pressing the letters (p/m/f etc).
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mike@mike-lyons.co.uk
Thank you for all the detailed information. I will read chapter 9. Now I understand why a tempo didn’t sound like it after a rit...I have some preferences with text style but didn’t know it would be a problem.
In the piano cello score octave lines are not overlapping and everything is fine..
I am extracting the cello part because with the printed full score, I want to add a separate double sheet for the cello. It is more convenient for the cellist to follow a short score with his own part.
That's the way it normally works! The cello can still have his separate part, just without all the faff of extracting it. If you look at the Print dialog page, you can print the full score, individual parts or all the parts (on separate sheets) without ever extracting a part.
You can make your preferred settings in a custom tempo text style. You can make it look exactly like the text you have in the score you posted if you wish - as long as you use a system text style not a staff text style - it will appear on all parts automatically. The way you are using text at the moment, you would have to copy that text onto every staff, thereby disturbing the layout of your score.
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mike@mike-lyons.co.uk
I have changed the text style according to your suggestion. Looks good after all.
I have printed the cello part separately:
some crescendi /decrescendi cross from one system to another
the last system is incomplete below the staff (dynamics, 8vb)
the 8vb still overlap
When I prepare the piano part to print, I see the pedal marks misplaced, the slurs, I even see some markings for the cello in the piano part...
By the way, I want to extract the parts in pdf in order to send the score to the graphic designer who is preparing the layout. Anyways, I rewrote the cello part separately and I now have the full score and the piano score (after having deleted the cello part).
At least, I am not writing a symphony...
I’ll read chapter 9.
Thanks again
P. S. I didn’t find the translation for intellexisse at the bottom of your signature. Can you tell me the translation please?
When you say "some crescendi /decrescendi cross from one system to another" what is actually happening? Are they slanted? If a line (any line) crosses the end of a system it will be split and continue on the next system.
If dragging the RH end doesn't work, instead of selecting the whole of the last bar, select the last note (or use the rt-arrow with shift). Check, also, that the start of the 2nd 8ve line is in the right place.
The responsibility for misplaced dynamics is entirely yours. You can tell which staff a dynamic is attached to by selecting the staff (triple-click). Any text attached to it will become coloured. Drag any text on the wrong staff to the correct staff.
The placing of lines in the score and parts can be different because the formatting is different. Select the staff (triple click) in part view and filter for pedal lines (Home-->Filter-->Pedal lines) press [ctrl][shift]p (reset position) or, if that doesn't work [ctrl][shift]r (align in a row) you may also need to use the up/down arrow (with the lines selected) to clear any high/low notes.
I understand why you want to create a pdf, but you don't need to extract parts to do this. Use either Export-->pdf (and choose what you want to export from the list given) or Print to a pdf printer (eg Microsoft Print to pdf).
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mike@mike-lyons.co.uk
My rather rusty Latin springs into action: intellexisse is the perfect active infinitive of intellego. A literal translation is "to have understood".
A close translation of "Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse" would be "If you wish to (verbally) attack/criticise me, it is necessary to have understood me (first)."
A looser translation might be "If you get into an argument with me, you'd better know what you're on about."
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Mike: I do export parts in pdf, this is when everything goes wrong. I do not intend to cut the cresc. / decresc in two from one staff to the other but it happens when I export in pdf. The pedal marks and 8va are well placed until I export.
I’ll try the triple click, never heard of that one before and read chapter 9.
Thanks for everything and for the latin translation.
Chris: Thanks to you too. Your latin is not that rusty after all...
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