Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 23 Jul 08:16AM Hide picture Does Sibelius 2020 support the Soundset Projects Soundset for Kontakt 5 Factory Library. I have had limited success with creating a manual soundset but I would like to know if Sibelius still supports automatic loading of Kontakt sounds Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 23 Jul 08:42AM Hide picture Yes, to all questions. -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 03:19AM Hide picture I meant Autoloading during the creation of the soundset configuration itself. I find that even though I have installed the soundset called 'Kontakt 5 Factory Library' from The Soundsets Project, I still have to go through with manually setting within Sibelius of Kontakt sounds. I am asking if Sibelius 2020 will open the sounds in Kontakt automatically. At the moment I have succeeded only in manually assigning different Kontakt sounds to the manually set channels in Sibelius and then I have to open instances within Kontakt itself of the assigned sounds making sure that the channels assignments correspond in Sibelius and Kontakt. The instruction pdf for the Kontakt Factory Library soundset seems to be saying that Sibelius will do the channel assignments and sound loading automatically if one chooses the option to load sounds automatically (i.e. during the set up process). n.b.Once I have created a Sound configuration using Kontakt sounds and saved it within a Sibelius project, Sibelius loads the new configuration every time I open the project file but this does not seem to be the automatic loading referred to in the pdf manual. Another Question: Into which folder should the Soundset Projects "Mauscript Paper", "House Styles" and "Sounds" folders be put for Sibelius 2020. The manual only gives instructions for Sibelius 5 6 and 7 and they are all slightly different. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 24 Jul 06:45AM Hide picture None of what you describe should be necessary. Sibelius plus the SoundSet should control everything automatically. Please attach screen-shots of the following Sibelius dialogue windows: 1. Playback Devices; 2. Audio Engine Options. Please also attach a Sibelius .sib score file which demonstrates the issue. -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 10:44AM Hide picture I am attatching screenshots of (1) the playback devices and (2)of the audio engine options below. I also include (1) a short excerpt from a score which uses a Kontact 5 Factory Library Soundset which was constructed as a manual soundset as per the instructions in the Soundset Project's PDF. and (2) a four bar score in which I have followed the instructions for an automatically loading Kontakt Soundset Attachments EXAMPLE SOUND SET SCORE 5 BARS.sib (102K), EXAMPLE SOUND SET SCORE 5 BARS.sib (102K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 10:48AM Hide picture I am not sure that all four files were sent so I am sending the other two here: I am attatching screenshots of (1) the playback devices and (2)of the audio engine options below. I apologise for any duplication. Attachment Sibelius Audio engine options.png (328K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 10:50AM Hide picture again I can only see one file being sent so here is the other one Attachment SIBELIUS ACTIVE DEVICES.png (338K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 24 Jul 11:28AM Hide picture Which sample library have you installed in Kontakt? - the free "Factory Selection"; or - the paid-for "Factory"? -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 11:31AM Hide picture I am using the paid for full Kontakt 5 Factory Library Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 24 Jul 11:48AM Hide picture > I am using the paid for full Kontakt 5 Factory Library I don't have that sample library, so I can't double check the score you posted. I cannot tell from the screen-shots you have so far provided which version of the SoundSet you have activated. I don't understand why you are configuring manual sound-sets and so on - just use the automatic loading version of the soundset and you should not ever have to look at the insides of Kontakt. It should be as automatic as Sibelius Sounds is, or GPO is. -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 12:10PM Hide picture I have activated the Soundset for Kontakt 5 Factory Library not any of the soundsets that came with Sibelius. But could you tell in me which follder I should have the Kontakt 5 plugin. As you can see from the screenshot I have two folders for plugins ( Program Files/Avid/VST Plugins and ... Native instruments/VST plugins 64bit Ts either of these redundant. Also will the loading work if I try the full versiopn of Kontakt 6 instead of Kontakt 5 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 24 Jul 02:08PM Hide picture > I have activated the Soundset for Kontakt 5 Factory Library not any of the soundsets that came with Sibelius. But, which of the two SoundSets supplied with the SoundSetProject distribution for Factory? One supplied SoundSet implements auto-loading, the other does not. > But could you tell in me which follder I should have the Kontakt 5 plugin. As you can see from the screenshot I have two folders for plugins ( Program Files/Avid/VST Plugins and ... Native instruments/VST plugins 64bit There was no screen-shot attached. You should not copy or move the Kontakt VST plug-in from where Kontakt installs it. Use the "Folders" menu of "Audio Engine Options" to locate the VST plug-ins at their original installed locations. Do not copy the VST plug-ins to the \Program Files\Avid\VST Plugins\ folder (that was the method for Sibelius 5 and 6 only). -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 24 Jul 10:33PM Hide picture I purchased the Soundset Project's soundset for Kontakt 5 Factory Library for $25. The Kontakt factory Selection soundset is a further $10. The full NI Factory LIbrary Soundset is advertised as supporting automatic or manual loading in SIbelius 7. ((http://www.soundsetproject.com/soundsets/native-instruments/kontakt-5-factory-library/) This functionality appears to have dissappeared in Sibelius 2020. Are users able to submit requests for future upgrades to Sibelius If so could you advise as to how? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 25 Jul 07:30AM Hide picture > The full NI Factory LIbrary Soundset is advertised as supporting automatic or manual loading in SIbelius 7. It does this by supplying TWO different SoundSet files: one which supports auto-loading, and one which works only with a manual soundset configuration. Which one of those two supplied soundsets are you using? > This functionality appears to have dissappeared in Sibelius 2020. There has been no change in this respect in any version of Sibelius. > Are users able to submit requests for future upgrades to Sibelius. If so could you advise as to how? There is no need for any feature change. -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 25 Jul 09:13AM Hide picture I am using the Sibelius Soundset for Kontakt Factory Library. On their website the Sound et Project state that this soundset supports automatic and manual loading http://www.soundsetproject.com/soundsets/native-instruments/kontakt-5-factory-library/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 25 Jul 09:37AM Hide picture In answer to your question I have been using the soundset file NI Kontakt Factory Library (fixed).xml Sorry I was confused by your questions I take it you have been telling me that I should be using the other *.*xml file to get automaticloading. I will try it tomorrow. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 25 Jul 09:51AM Hide picture > In answer to your question I have been using the soundset file NI Kontakt Factory Library (fixed).xml That SoundSet does not support auto-loading. You need to use the SoundSet that does not have "(Fixed)" in its name to get auto-loading. -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 26 Jul 02:44AM Hide picture Using th e soundset that does not hav e 'fixed' in its name I can now get Sibelius to auto load as you as you said it would There are some idiosyncraties though which are more less a nuisance than anything else Firstly to get Kontakt to start loading sounds I have to switch back to Sibeliusnn Sounds and then back to my configuration for Kontakt. Secondly very often aftersaving and reloading a soundset or when making changes to the instruments assigned to Kontakt I find that Kontakt has loaded a percussion ensemble which then plays in the background as a drum set spoiling the sound. I then go into Kontakt and delete the percussion sound and then I seem to have all sounds I want loaded. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Julian C - 26 Jul 02:46AM Hide picture DDo you know how to avoid the loading of unwanted percussion sets Back to top | All threads

Re: Sound sets for Kontakt Posted by Robin Walker - 26 Jul 10:56AM Hide picture If you are using the auto-loading soundset then no adjustment to the Sibelius Mixer or to the Kontakt VST should be necessary: in fact, both of them should be cleared down to default settings (which might need doing if you previously had a manual soundset configuration). If Sibelius Preferences -> Playback -> "Slot and Channel Sharing" -> "Automatically allocate slot for click track" is checked, then a percussion patch will always be auto-loaded to support the metronome click. It should not, however, be actually playing anything if the metronome is disabled. -- Sibelius 2020.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads