'Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2'

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Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 08:16AM
     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Robin Walker, 18 Apr 08:23AM
         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 08:28AM
             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 08:28AM
                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Adrian Drover, 18 Apr 09:56AM
                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Laurence Payne, 18 Apr 01:47PM
                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 02:00PM
                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Peter Young, 18 Apr 02:22PM
                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 19 Apr 08:57AM
                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Adrian Drover, 19 Apr 12:34PM
                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 19 Apr 12:43PM
                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 19 Apr 12:44PM
                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Chris Crawley, 19 Apr 01:21PM
                                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 19 Apr 02:51PM
                                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 19 Apr 02:54PM
                                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 03:04PM
                                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Chris Crawley, 19 Apr 03:27PM
                                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 03:32PM
                                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Chris Crawley, 19 Apr 03:30PM
                                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 04 May 04:29PM
                                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 05 May 04:51PM
                                                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Richard Vitale, 05 May 05:02PM
                                                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Venancio @ Avid, 05 May 11:20PM
                                                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Bob Morabito, 06 May 02:39AM
                                                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 09 May 08:27AM

Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 18 Apr 08:16AM
Hi,
When I use reset design in a score it now also affects accidentals. Is there a way to turn this off?

Never had this issue before, use a lot of house styles/templates/layouting other's scores, so this makes the the whole process very insecure.

Regards,
Anders Annerholm

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Robin Walker - 18 Apr 08:23AM
How does "Reset Design" affect accidentals for you?

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 18 Apr 08:28AM
Have a look at the pics. The score is i C major/No key. Pic #1 is the score when I got it (from the composer), and #2 is when Reset Desig is applied.
Attachment #1 Original score.PNG.png (26K)

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 18 Apr 08:28AM
Attachment #2 Reset design score.PNG.png (30K)

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Adrian Drover - 18 Apr 09:56AM
Hmmm, that's bad news, Anders. It doesn't happen in 7.1.3. Can any other 8.2 user please verify this?

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Laurence Payne - 18 Apr 01:47PM
Ah. Is this a by-product of the independent enharmonics introduced in 8.2? Not good.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 18 Apr 02:00PM
That's what I fear, Laurence.
At least I hope it's bug and not intended.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Peter Young - 18 Apr 02:22PM
It happens here too on 8.2 so I don't think it's intended.

Peter

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 19 Apr 08:57AM
Any news to this question? Adrian/Robin - is it a bug connected to the independent enharmonics?

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Adrian Drover - 19 Apr 12:34PM
Well unless this is put right before the deadline date, there is no way I will want to upgrade. I spend a lot of time correcting sib's unintelligent note spelling. I certainly don't need all my work to be undone whenever I do a reset.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 19 Apr 12:43PM
Sorry, don't know how this forum works nowadays, but are there AVID/Sib people here to answer? Or should I put a question to the support?

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 19 Apr 12:44PM
Good morning folks,

This does indeed appear to be a bug, thanks for finding and reporting it. I'll arrange to get this fixed ASAP.

Joe

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Chris Crawley - 19 Apr 01:21PM (edited 19 Apr 01:22PM)
Oh dear. This is really not good news. You will understand why, Joe.

We're in the second half of April already.
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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 19 Apr 02:51PM
Don't despair, as you might know we were already publicly demoing Sib 8.3 at Musik Messe.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 19 Apr 02:54PM
Is this going to be fixed in the next update 8.3? How long will we have to wait for this?

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Laurence Payne - 19 Apr 03:04PM (edited 19 Apr 03:05PM)
So if 8.3 is at public demo stage, I guess it's too late to include a fix?

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Chris Crawley - 19 Apr 03:27PM
Well, that's what I was thinking, Laurence.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Laurence Payne - 19 Apr 03:32PM
This brings the reality of the new pricing strongly into focus. The question, at the cut-off date, will not be "Do I want to buy the version currently on offer?". It will be "Do I want to stay on board?".

If a fix for this particular bug doesn't arrive in time (or if a fix is rushed out without proper testing and other things break - and remember the team will be under considerable pressure to produce an impressive version for the cutoff date) Avid will in all honesty have to advise us "Pay up, but don't install the latest version yet".

Even with bi-yearly updates, experienced developers and a beta-testing program, this sort of thing happened occasionally. Then we could hold back until a corrected version arrived. We still can - but now we have to pay up-front. Not actually a huge practical difference. But a big emotional one.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Chris Crawley - 19 Apr 03:30PM
"... as you might know we were already publicly demoing Sib 8.3 at Musik Messe."

Yes, indeed. I started a thread about it, Joe!

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 04 May 04:29PM
To confirm: the issue reported in this thread is fixed and will be included with the Sibelius 8.3.0 update.

It'll be available soon.

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 05 May 04:51PM
Fixed in 8.3.0 which we released today!

Let me know how you get on with it.

Joe

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Richard Vitale - 05 May 05:02PM
Joe, that's good news and I'm sure everyone appreciates your attendance to this Forum and how quickly you addressed the issue in "Reset Design".

Thank you,

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 05 May 11:20PM
> Joe, that's good news and I'm sure everyone appreciates your attendance to this Forum and how quickly you addressed the issue in "Reset Design".
>
> Thank you,
>
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+1

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Bob Morabito - 06 May 02:39AM
>>Joe, that's good news and I'm sure everyone appreciates your attendance to this Forum and how quickly you addressed the issue in "Reset Design".

>+1

The bug was discovered 18 Apr:

this post

It was announced fixed the week of 18 April:

http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=695533&groupid=3&words=reset%20design&name=bob%20Zawalich#695593

but was NOT released as a fix to users, but was delayed until today, May 5 to fatten up the Sib 8.3 release which may be the last release before the subscription deadline. It is felt it should have already been released as an 8.2.1 fix, and this delaying of fixes of bugs of the present release and using them as features of the next release shows a HUGE part of whats wrong with this subscription plan.

These "delaying tactics" can wreak havoc with anyone whose subscription ends, and they dont renew, and the bug was delivered while they still were on subscription.

This really doesnt seem fair.

YMMV.

Thanks Bob

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Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2
Posted by Anders Annerholm - 09 May 08:27AM
Thanks Joe, quick work. Good to hear that you address issues like this quickly.
Will report if it's not working well, but I guess it will;-)

Anders
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Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 08:16AM
     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Robin Walker, 18 Apr 08:23AM
         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 08:28AM
             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 08:28AM
                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Adrian Drover, 18 Apr 09:56AM
                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Laurence Payne, 18 Apr 01:47PM
                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 18 Apr 02:00PM
                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Peter Young, 18 Apr 02:22PM
                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 19 Apr 08:57AM
                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Adrian Drover, 19 Apr 12:34PM
                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 19 Apr 12:43PM
                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 19 Apr 12:44PM
                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Chris Crawley, 19 Apr 01:21PM
                                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 19 Apr 02:51PM
                                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 19 Apr 02:54PM
                                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 03:04PM
                                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Chris Crawley, 19 Apr 03:27PM
                                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 03:32PM
                                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Chris Crawley, 19 Apr 03:30PM
                                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 04 May 04:29PM
                                                             Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Joe @ Sibelius, 05 May 04:51PM
                                                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Richard Vitale, 05 May 05:02PM
                                                                     Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Venancio @ Avid, 05 May 11:20PM
                                                                         Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Bob Morabito, 06 May 02:39AM
                                                                 Re: Reset Design/Accidentals in 8.2 - Anders Annerholm, 09 May 08:27AM