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Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando l... - Matthew Hindson, 03 Jan 01:31AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Mark Isaacs, 03 Jan 02:39AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Robert Enns, 03 Jan 03:39AM
             Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Mark Isaacs, 03 Jan 03:44AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Matthew Hindson, 03 Jan 05:26AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Derek Bourgeois, 03 Jan 09:43AM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Adrian Drover, 16 Dec 11:45AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Adriano Baumann, 17 Dec 07:20AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Adriano Baumann, 17 Dec 07:22AM

Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Matthew Hindson - 03 Jan 01:31AM
Is inserting a line as a graphic created in a different application the best way to create a jagged (non-smooth) glissando marking?

I presume that there's no way to do it in the application itself?

thanks

Matthew

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 03 Jan 02:39AM (edited 03 Jan 02:42AM)
Happy New Year Matthew.

I'm still on Sibelius 6 but assume Sibelius 7 is the same on this:

A wavy glissando line is available in the Lines gallery. So much better than a graphic as of course you can change angle and extend/retract as you wish. Best to right-click and turn off Magnetic Layout on the line so that it is not repelled by the staff.

Even better, download the "Line Between Notes" plug-in (if it doesn't already ship with Sibelius 7). This makes the line magnetic to the notes you select, and will move with transposition etc. And there are options for all kinds of lines (wavy, dashed etc). It can't be used between staves of a grand staff though, so not suitable for those type of harp or piano glissandi.

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Robert Enns - 03 Jan 03:39AM
There is a proper glissando line on one of the keypad tabs, at least in Sib 7. Much better than using the Lines one.

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 03 Jan 03:44AM
Yes, Robert, there's the excellent "Slide" line on Keypad 2. But it's a straight line, and Matthew wants a "jagged (non-smooth)" one.

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Matthew Hindson - 03 Jan 05:26AM
Thanks Mark and Robert,

Actually what I am after is something like the attached (done in Finale). Am I going crazy or is this in the Lines section?

And particularly THANKS for the gliss on Keypad 2! Glisses have been driving me up the wall, big time. I never even knew that was there.

Matthew


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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Derek Bourgeois - 03 Jan 09:43AM
If you want it to look like your png then I guess you'll have to create it with several ordinary lines carefully placed to look like that. Just watch for any reformatting done in the mean time before your score is complete.

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 16 Dec 11:45AM
I did this entering slurs between notes, then hiding the notes. The slurs can be made into various shapes by pulling the grab handles (kill magnetic layout).
Attachment Wavy line.png (12K)

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Adriano Baumann - 17 Dec 07:20AM
Yes, Adrian, but slurs are not "uniformely thick".

I have also found this David MacDonapd posting of 2017:
https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/graphic-notation-workflow-sibelius-adobe-illustrator/

For me so far the best soulution, but tiresome if one has to insert almost a dozen of different wavelines in a score.

Again, Sibelius should create a "paintbrush" acting, for example, in the "text" field

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Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando lines?
Posted by Adriano Baumann - 17 Dec 07:22AM (edited 17 Dec 12:37PM)
Yes, Adrian, but slurs are not "uniformely thick". And the waves I need are totally irregular and rather wild...

I have also found this David MacDonald posting of 2017:
https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/graphic-notation-workflow-sibelius-adobe-illustrator/

For me so far the best soulution, but tiresome if one has to insert almost a dozen of different wavelines in a score.

Again, Sibelius should create a "paintbrush" acting, for example, on the "text" level.

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Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissando l... - Matthew Hindson, 03 Jan 01:31AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Mark Isaacs, 03 Jan 02:39AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Robert Enns, 03 Jan 03:39AM
             Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Mark Isaacs, 03 Jan 03:44AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Matthew Hindson, 03 Jan 05:26AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Derek Bourgeois, 03 Jan 09:43AM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Adrian Drover, 16 Dec 11:45AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Adriano Baumann, 17 Dec 07:20AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1: Best way to create uneven glissan... - Adriano Baumann, 17 Dec 07:22AM