'Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts'

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Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - James Mablin, 26 Apr 09:36AM
     Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Jody Hughes, 26 Apr 10:17AM
         Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - James Mablin, 26 Apr 11:51AM
             Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Daniel Spreadbury, 26 Apr 09:32PM
                 Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - James Mablin, 26 Apr 10:27PM
                     Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Daniel Spreadbury, 27 Apr 12:21AM
                         Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Christopher D King, 18 Sep 12:07PM
                             Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Robin Walker, 18 Sep 03:53PM
                                 Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Christopher D King, 20 Sep 01:42AM

Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by James Mablin - 26 Apr 09:36AM
I've been suing Sibelius for many years now and am ashamed to say I have steered clear of the dynamic parts, preferring to export parts to format them. However I have finally decided to man up and tackle the dynamic parts! I have hit an issue and have searched the forum but did not come across a thread about it. Is it possible to change the position on the bar numbers (Above or below the staff) by instrument? When I change it in the engraving rules it changes it for all parts, and the multiple part appearance options window doesn't have this option. When writing for strings for example, I want the bar numbers below the staff for the higher strings and above the staff for the lower strings as I have bar numbers showing for every bar.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by Jody Hughes - 26 Apr 10:17AM
Hi there

>I've been suing Sibelius for many years now...
How's the case going? :-)

Your request is quite unusual, but I think you can manage it.

You can set different vertical positions in parts and score (Engraving Rules>Bar numbers...Vertical Position). I imagine you have bar numbers above staves in the score, so set the vertical position for parts to something like -6.5. They'll appear below the stave in all parts.

Now, in the Parts window, select all parts where you instead want the bar numbers above the stave, and choose Multiple Parts Appearance. Click Yes to the warning and go to the House Style tab. Here, under 'Bar numbers' choose the (different) text style 'Bar numbers (parts)'. If the vertical position of these isn't suitable, you change it in House Style>Default Positions.

Hope that helps

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by James Mablin - 26 Apr 11:51AM
Thank you Jeremy. That worked great, and while an easier fix would have been great, it's nice to know I am not going crazy, and it really was an issue that you had to find a work around for. Thanks again for your help, you solved my problem :)
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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 26 Apr 09:32PM
This isn't a bug or a workaround: it's just how it works. We provided the 'Bar numbers (parts)' text style for precisely this purpose.

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by James Mablin - 26 Apr 10:27PM
That makes sense, but wouldn't it be easier if the vertical position of bar numbers in the engraving rules was not a global function? The bar numbers shown has to be set for each dynamic part, so why not the vertical position. I'm sure there is a reason, I'm just trying to figure it out.
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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 27 Apr 12:21AM
The values in Engraving Rules are basically just a proxy for the settings in House Style > Default Positions for the 'Bar numbers' text style.

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by Christopher D King - 18 Sep 12:07PM
Hi Daniel,

I'm looking to do the exact same thing as the original poster but in Sibelius Ultimate.

I have one part where I need the bar numbers to be below the stave; all others can be above the stave.

What's the best way to go about this?

Many thanks.
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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by Robin Walker - 18 Sep 03:53PM
> I have one part where I need the bar numbers to be below the stave; all others can be above the stave.
> What's the best way to go about this?

The procedure is still the same as it was 9 years ago in earlier posts in this thread, for Sibelius 6. Just follow the same instructions.

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts
Posted by Christopher D King - 20 Sep 01:42AM
I have found a way but thanks for your reply.
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Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - James Mablin, 26 Apr 09:36AM
     Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Jody Hughes, 26 Apr 10:17AM
         Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - James Mablin, 26 Apr 11:51AM
             Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Daniel Spreadbury, 26 Apr 09:32PM
                 Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - James Mablin, 26 Apr 10:27PM
                     Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Daniel Spreadbury, 27 Apr 12:21AM
                         Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Christopher D King, 18 Sep 12:07PM
                             Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Robin Walker, 18 Sep 03:53PM
                                 Re: Sib. 6.1: Bar number position in dynamic parts - Christopher D King, 20 Sep 01:42AM