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Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Katrina Emtage, 10 Mar 01:06PM
     Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Colin Graham, 10 Mar 02:51PM
         Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Daniel Spreadbury, 11 Mar 11:17AM
     Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Benjamin, 11 Mar 05:57PM
         Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Colin Graham, 11 Mar 06:09PM
             Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Tristan Durie, 13 Apr 02:21AM

Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering
Posted by Katrina Emtage - 10 Mar 01:06PM
Is there any way (plug-in or otherwise ) that would allow flute fingerings to be added to a score? I am trying to write out a piece that uses non-conventional fingerings. I would think that it would be also useful for other wind instruments.
Thanks

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering
Posted by Colin Graham - 10 Mar 02:51PM
Not that I'm aware of, Katrina. As I'm sue you already know, one problem with wind instrument fingerings, even on something like the recorder with no keys, is that players will occasionally use alternatives because of their individual instruments. Also, I think that most (modern) flute players are using Boehm system instruments, which may or may not have a C or B foot. For other wind instruments, the situation is more fluid, so I think a plug-in would be impractical.

[The Woodwind Fingering Guide http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/ highlights the variations which are possible.]

I occasionally write multiphonics and quarter-tones for recorder, and in Sib 4.0 I used to set up the fingering on one 'chord', copy it as an object, use the Advanced Filter (which allows you to select notes at specific pitches and in specific octaves) and then paste the fingering once the notes had been selected.

If you do this a lot, you may want to use Bob's plugin "Create Insert Symbol Plugin for Sibelius 5 and 6" and set up your fingerings as individual symbols with shortcuts. It's in the "Others" group.


By the way, if you're a flute player, check out Andrew Botros's virtual flute... it's great fun, and amazingly well set out.
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/flute/virtual/main.html
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Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 11 Mar 11:17AM
You may be interested in purchasing this fingering font, which makes fingering charts relatively easy:

http://www.musicteachertools.com/fingerings

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering
Posted by Benjamin - 11 Mar 05:57PM
> Is there any way (plug-in or otherwise ) that would allow flute fingerings to be added to a score? I am trying to write out a piece that uses non-conventional fingerings. I would think that it would be also useful for other wind instruments.
> Thanks

I've not tried the software Daniel recommended below. On their site they only talk about using it in Finale, would it also work with Sibelius? If yes, 40$ for all these fingering fonts seems a reasonable price.

Otherwise, you'll have to put them together using the Edit Symbols function. You won't get the fingering symbols as used by Robert Dick (horizontal and 100% graphics), but combining the vertical six-hole row and additional keys in a tiny text style works quite well (also for other than flute instruments, see attached png). You'll have to override Magnetic Layout to put these elements together.

If you want to use only text elements (Carin Levine style), you can create a text font based on boxed text, but I don't really like the looks of that (in return, Carin doesn't like my fingering symbols...).


Attachment flute fingerings.png (31K)

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering
Posted by Colin Graham - 11 Mar 06:09PM
The site is basically offering True Type Fonts, so it will also work in word processors etc.

For avant garde recorder music, a number notation is usually used rather than finger diagrams, so I did not invest in the package. However, I think it is good value if you are involved in wind instrument teaching and need to create learner level diagrams as well as more non-conventional fingerings for more accomplished performers (with the caveat about different types of key systems which are around).

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http://colingraham.terapad.com/
Counter-tenor, recorder player, composer, SCORE user
Barbershop harmony singer, arranger & contest judge

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Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering
Posted by Tristan Durie - 13 Apr 02:21AM
Just wanted to let flutists know that there is a flute fingering font. It's good for teaching, I write fingering above the notes on sheet music or exercises It's especially good for notating multiphonics, glisses and trills.

http://tristandurie.com/The_Flute_Fingering_Font.html

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Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Katrina Emtage, 10 Mar 01:06PM
     Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Colin Graham, 10 Mar 02:51PM
         Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Daniel Spreadbury, 11 Mar 11:17AM
     Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Benjamin, 11 Mar 05:57PM
         Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Colin Graham, 11 Mar 06:09PM
             Re: Sib. 6.1: Flute fingering - Tristan Durie, 13 Apr 02:21AM