Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 18 Feb 04:50PM Hide picture I'm having a problem getting tied notes to continue after fermatas when playing back. At the moment, the fermata sustains to the desired extended duration, then cuts of the tied note/s and restarts it when continuing. (The bars concerned do have fermatas over differently lengthed notes for different instruments, in case that's relevant.) Can anyone help please? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Philip Sparke - 18 Feb 05:14PM Hide picture Just experienced the same problem myself for the first time! But having closed the score and opened it again, the problem has gone away. Sorry not to have a solution.... -- Philip Sparke - Anglo Music Press Sib 6.1 Windows 7, 2.93 GHz i7 Quad Core 8 GB RAM M-Audio Audiophile 2496 www.philipsparke.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 18 Feb 05:35PM Hide picture I just tried closing and opening again as Phil suggests, but it's made no difference to playback. Thanks anyway - worth a try. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Colin Douglas - 18 Feb 05:57PM Hide picture Works fine for me - but...........if I use a slur instead of a tie then there is a cutoff. -- Sibelius 6.1 GPO4 XP Home SP3 3Gb Ram Intel Core2Duo [email protected] Attachment Fermata - slur - tie.sib (45K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 18 Feb 06:40PM Hide picture Thanks, but I did try replacing the ties with slurs and got the same cut-off. But my ties are definitely still just ties and still they cut-off. Argh. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 18 Feb 10:45PM Hide picture Can you attach an example, Steve? -- Contact Sibelius technical help: USA & Canada: [email protected] / 1-888-280-9995 UK: [email protected] / +44 (0)20 7561 7997 Australia: [email protected] / 1300 652 172 Other countries: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 19 Feb 08:46AM Hide picture Extract from the work attached. Note some staves are hidden. Thanks Daniel - hope you can make sense of it! Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 19 Feb 09:38AM Hide picture Unfortunately your score didn't attach, probably because it's bigger than 1MB in size. Try going to File > Versions > Edit Versions and exporting the 'Current version', then attach it here. -- Contact Sibelius technical help: USA & Canada: [email protected] / 1-888-280-9995 UK: [email protected] / +44 (0)20 7561 7997 Australia: [email protected] / 1300 652 172 Other countries: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 19 Feb 09:58AM Hide picture Try again...! Attachment Fermata-Tie example Steve Block.sib (923K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 21 Feb 11:40AM Hide picture This is a pretty complicated score with many overlapping fermatas. I'd suggest removing as many of the fermatas as you can and adding back only the ones that you want to take effect. For the other staves, I'd suggest using symbols. -- Contact Sibelius technical help: USA & Canada: [email protected] / 1-888-280-9995 UK: [email protected] / +44 (0)20 7561 7997 Australia: [email protected] / 1300 652 172 Other countries: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 21 Feb 01:56PM Hide picture Thanks Daniel - I'll give that a try! Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 21 Feb 05:10PM Hide picture Well, I've tried pretty well every conceiveable combination of fermatas and pause symbols as Daniel suggested, without any real success I'm afraid. I even tried reducing the score to about 10 staves only (brass & timps) to reduce the complexity. The problem seems to lie in the ties themselves. Sibelius does not want to continue a note after it has been sustained with a fermata. I've also tried amending Property figures for both "Extend duration" and "Add gap", again without success. (The nearest I could get to the right sound was by creating parallel staves with the required ties and no fermatas, taking the ties out of the fermata parts, and that wasn't very close either!) Any more suggestions please? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 21 Feb 11:02PM Hide picture Try shortening the pauses from 2000% to a smaller value, e.g. 500%. -- Contact Sibelius technical help: USA & Canada: [email protected] / 1-888-280-9995 UK: [email protected] / +44 (0)20 7561 7997 Australia: [email protected] / 1300 652 172 Other countries: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 21 Feb 11:16PM Hide picture Extraordinary! There seems to be a maximum extend of 1699; at 1700 the cut-off kicks in, but up to 1699 the ties work. Curious little glitch, maybe for future update fixes? Thanks so much, Daniel. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Martin P. Kellogg - 22 Feb 12:06AM (edited 22 Feb 12:29AM) Hide picture It seems to happen any time a fermata extends the duration of the bar by a factor of 2 or more. In the attached score, the first fermata is set to 199% and the second to 200%. [added: Clearly, in my example a fermata on the tied-to note would be preferred; but in a complex score like Steve's, one may need to put a fermata on the tied-from note.] -- Martin Sibelius 6.1; Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26 GHz, 4 GB RAM (3 GB accessible), WinXP Pro SP3, two monitors, Echo Indigo IOx Express Card audio interface, KeyRig 49 -- year 2010 Attachment Fermata cutoff.sib (29K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Steve Block - 22 Feb 08:03AM Hide picture Thanks Martin. Hopefully this bug may be addressed in future versions. At least I know how to work out the maximum extend now. Cheers. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by taylorcomposer - 09 Dec 11:23PM Hide picture Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 6.1: Playback of ties after fermatas (pauses) Posted by Musix4me - 13 Dec 10:41PM Hide picture > Thanks Martin. Hopefully this bug may be addressed in future versions. At least I know how to work out the maximum extend now. > > Cheers. Are they still updating 6.1? -- Robert Moody https://www.musix4me.com Windows 11 Pro, Sibelius Ultimate 2025.10, Note Performer 5.0.1 AMD 9950X3D, 96GB DDR5 6000, NVIDIA 5090, Gen5 NVMe, 1Gb Fiber Back to top | All threads