Inputting dynamics Posted by Andy Thorne - 27 Apr 08:50AM Hide picture Sometime ago an update made it possible to enter dynamics by typing Ctrl+E (release) and then enter the dynamic. The correct font would appear. No this does not work anymore. Why? Thanks Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 Apr 09:47AM Hide picture This has been the shortcut for dynamics since forever. However, you need to keep [ctrl] pressed while you type the dynamic letters (mpfs etc]. You can also type [ctrl][shift]c to put cresc., and [ctrl][shift]d to put dim. Again, this has been the shortcut since they year dot. Not keeping [ctrl] pressed will not give you the music font letters for dynamics. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2022.3 (build 888) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. [email protected] Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Andy Thorne - 27 Apr 10:56AM Hide picture OK, thanks Mike. I was sure they changed it at one point so that you didn't have to hold down the key once you pressed them. My memory problem!! Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Laurence Payne - 27 Apr 12:11PM (edited 27 Apr 12:12PM) Hide picture You are correct that a few versions back Sibelius stopped requiring Ctrl to be held while typing dynamics. Maybe @Mike Lyons is still using an older version? Perhaps you are being confused by the fact that the correct font doesn't appear while typing. It is only rendered after leaving input mode. Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 Apr 12:30PM Hide picture I'm using the very latest version, thank you Laurence, 2024.3.1. Is this 'feature' designed for lazy arses who can't be bothered to hold a key down for a second or two? Dumbing down again! -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2022.3 (build 888) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. [email protected] Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Laurence Payne - 27 Apr 01:08PM Hide picture > I'm using the very latest version, thank you Laurence, 2024.3.1. Is this 'feature' designed for lazy arses who can't be bothered to hold a key down for a second or two? > > Dumbing down again! :-) More a matter of 'how it should have been in the first place' perhaps? Are there any other text styles where, having selected the style it also takes a modifier key to actually GET that style? Holding Ctrl still works though! Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by John Melby - 27 Apr 03:25PM Hide picture > You are correct that a few versions back Sibelius stopped requiring Ctrl to be held while typing dynamics. Maybe @Mike Lyons is still using an older version? > > Perhaps you are being confused by the fact that the correct font doesn't appear while typing. It is only rendered after leaving input mode. I'm a little puzzled by this. I'm using SU 2024.3.1, and when I type in dynamics, I press Command (I'm on a Mac)-E, release it, type in the dynamic (which does appear in the correct font while I'm typing), then press escape to leave input mode. I've been using Sibelius for years (I'm not sure how many), and this is the way it's been as long as I can remember. ??? -- Sibelius Ultimate 2024.3.1, NotePerformer 4.4, macOS 14.5 Sonoma, iMac M1, 16 GB RAM Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Laurence Payne - 27 Apr 03:57PM (edited 27 Apr 04:10PM) Hide picture Maybe it's different on Mac. For me on PC if I press Ctrl-E, release, then type f, I see normal-weight characters. Press Esc, if the characters parse to a standard dynamics marking, they render as bold italic. So f, ff and fff go bold, ffff doesn't. If I want ffff as a dynamic I must hold Ctrl while typing. It parses sfz correctly, but not fz. Quite clever, really! Or I can use the old method of holding Ctrl if I want bold-italic, not if I don't. Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Bob Zawalich - 27 Apr 10:00PM Hide picture The option to not need to keep holding ctrl down while entering dynamics text recognizes whether you are typing specific letters Sibelius wants to treat as dynamics. Just press ctrl_e and let go of both keys and start typing. ********************************************* "New Features and Improvements in Sibelius 2022.10 Sibelius 2022.10 provides the following new features, changes, and improvements: • Make Into Part command (Sibelius Ultimate only) • Improved dynamics text entry with p, m, f, and so on are now automatically converted to the current music font style" ************************************** You can still keep holding down the ctrl key while entering dynamics as you always did. My impressing was that a large number of users did not enter dynamics with the correct appearance, so this "shortcut" was added in Sib Ultimate 2022.10. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2024+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2024. Install plugins at File>Plug-ins>Install Plug-ins Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Execute Commands plugin documentation: https://bobzawalich.com/execute-commands-plugin-documentation/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 28 Apr 01:25AM Hide picture Yes there was a scourge of dynamics written in regular italics fonts, which is very much not correct. So now users will have a helping hand there. If it truly bothers you, there's a preference to turn it off, if memory serves. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius [email protected] Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Bob Zawalich - 28 Apr 02:01AM Hide picture I can't find the preference if there is one, looking in File >Preferences and the Text pane and Engraving Rules. Can you tell me where I can find it, just so I know? -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2024+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2024. Install plugins at File>Plug-ins>Install Plug-ins Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Execute Commands plugin documentation: https://bobzawalich.com/execute-commands-plugin-documentation/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Adrian Drover - 28 Apr 10:48AM Hide picture z (as in sfz) is dodgy. If you hit z on its own, you get the wrong font. If you hit [ctrl]z the whole string gets deleted. So it has to be [ctrl][alt][shft]z, or get it from the word menu. Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Laurence Payne - 28 Apr 09:11PM Hide picture Actually, typing 'sfz' DOES work, with a result identical to getting it from the menu. It's 'fz' that causes a problem. Quickest method is probably to enter 'sfz' then edit out the 's'. Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Andy Thorne - 29 Apr 08:48AM Hide picture I'm confused! Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Adrian Drover - 29 Apr 09:23AM Hide picture I'm not surprised, Andy. Just been googling. Seems that sf can mean subito forte as well as sforzando. Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 30 Apr 12:33AM Hide picture sf does *NOT* mean subito forte. That's an error. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius [email protected] Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: Inputting dynamics Posted by Adrian Drover - 30 Apr 07:18AM Hide picture So I believe, Justin, tho' (it seems) some composers think otherwise. Back to top | All threads