If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 20 Jan 08:47PM Hide picture Hello everyone! Us on the Sibelius development team would like to hear from you. What are your top requests for Sibelius these days? Or, put another way: “If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be?” Feel free to answer in more detail in the comments. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 20 Jan 10:06PM (edited 20 Jan 10:09PM) Hide picture There was a bug fix list as long as both my arms in the days of ideaScale. Take some hints off that, if you can find it knocking around the office. As a NEW feature for myself, before my licence expires, I would like proper, dynamic multiple parts creatable from a double (or triple) part in the score without having to go through arrange/explode/hidden staves. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 20 Jan 10:49PM Hide picture Yup I've got (literally) hundreds of bugs from the IdeaScale days. When I was going through the backlog, to my delight, a lot of them were actually fixed over the past 3-4 years or so. Still lots to do but progress is definitely being made! -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Jean - 20 Jan 11:47PM Hide picture So many bugs to fix.. need a real mixer panel, easier handling of vst, piano roll with daw like editing facilities the way STEINBERG does . In terms of audio capabilities, DORICO and STAFFPAD are way ahead of SIBELIUS. Come on guys, you work for AVID, the designer of PROTOOLS; let’s enter the 21th century! Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by David - 21 Jan 04:26AM Hide picture Tangible progress comparable to the excellent updates in 2018, and progress that benefits all users of the flagship software. That shouldn't need to be stated. Yes, the pandemic blah blah. Fine. Other companies have been making plenty of progress. The actual product (and the reason we are customers) has been somewhat stagnant for a long while. I'm sure the iPad version took some serious work, but a lot of us cannot use it. Here's what I really want, and Avid wants it too: I had a buddy call me recently, hadn't spoke in years (this was before the recent Dorico update). Said his wife needed help with Dorico. I was a bit puzzled and said I was a Sibelius user. He said "hmmm, well you recommended Dorico to us on FB six months ago". I explained that I thought the company (Steinberg) was better and that Avid was a top-heavy corporation and progress with Sibelius was not at the level it should be. There. Avid could have had 600 bucks, and it's not the first time by a long shot. I think I, and Avid, should be on the same page here. People love saying "I use Brand X, and it's the best because I use it". It's human nature. I, and a lot of us can't do that. Instead there are a zillion posts on FB etc. saying "No, you wanted Sibelius Ultimate!" because some bonehead changed the name. This isn't that much to ask. In fact, it should be expected. Don't think of this is negative, it's not. I'm just stating facts. I'm a pro orchestrator as are others here, I should be able to recommend the product I use. That $600 could have bought new dishes for the CEO's second home! -- Ultimate 2021.9, Windows 10 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mark Isaacs - 21 Jan 04:37AM Hide picture My wish list is: **"Classic" clean ribbon-less UI as per Sibelius 6 **True Full Screen mode, as per Sibelius 6 (I understand Dorico doesn't have it, and still has a toolbar you can't choose to hide) **A "DEcondense" feature to parts where instruments share a stave. (I reject Dorico's solution of mandating score entry on separate staves for the program to "condense") **Best practice algorithms for stacked accidentals in chords Plus fix all the well-known bugs (most egregious for me: cross staff accidentals and entering a note a 4th higher in chord entry jumps up an octave too high) -- A composer www.markisaacs.com www.facebook.com/markisaacsmusic Sibelius 6.2.0 build 88, Bob Zawalich plugins, Windows 10 64-bit, Intel Core i5 7400 Quad Core Processor (3GHz-3.5GHz 6MB), 8GB RAM, 27'' monitor, NotePerformer 3.3.2, Sibelius Sounds, Sibelius Sounds Essentials, Sibelius Gold (Kontakt), Garritan Personal Orchestra 3, Garritan Authorised Steinway, Bose Computer Music Monitor speakers, ASIO4ALL. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 21 Jan 08:16AM Hide picture > My wish list is: > > **"Classic" clean ribbon-less UI as per Sibelius 6 > **True Full Screen mode, as per Sibelius 6 (I understand Dorico doesn't have it, and still has a toolbar you can't choose to hide) > **A "DEcondense" feature to parts where instruments share a stave. (I reject Dorico's solution of mandating score entry on separate staves for the program to "condense") > **Best practice algorithms for stacked accidentals in chords > > Plus fix all the well-known bugs (most egregious for me: cross staff accidentals and entering a note a 4th higher in chord entry jumps up an octave too high) > YES,YES,YES,YES! -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Francesco - 21 Jan 08:47AM Hide picture One more for **"Classic" clean ribbon-less UI as per Sibelius 6 **True Full Screen mode, as per Sibelius 6 Thanks -- Francesco --- Sib6.2, Sib Ultimate (but I don't use it...), Win10 Pro, Intel I7@2.9 GHz, 32GB Ram, Steinberg UR22, Grandorgue, Pianoteq, NotePerformer, Kontakt 6, Reaper, Photoscore Ultimate 6 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 21 Jan 09:22AM (edited 21 Jan 09:31AM) Hide picture entering a note a 4th higher in chord entry jumps up an octave too high. ============================ I've never seen that happen to me, Mark, and I use this function a lot for notated chord building. Does this always happen, or just in particular circumstances? My wants: I use legacy chord symbol input because auto chord input doesn't offer all the style options I prefer. I would like to be able to back pedal when entering legacy chord text, just as you can in lyrics entry. Attached example of what I cannot do in auto chord entry. Attachment kordz.PNG.png (12K) Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Peter Young - 21 Jan 10:02AM Hide picture Resizeable panels to help those with visual impairments. Having to use a magnifier wastes so much time. -- Sib Ultimate on two CCL PCs both i5 and 8GB RAM Note performer, GPO and JABB Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Erik Hagner - 21 Jan 10:24AM Hide picture In legacy chord input – to use the tab key to move to next bar – as in "real" chord input ... -- iMac OS 10.15.7 | Sibelius 2021.2 | Finale v26 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 21 Jan 02:49PM Hide picture A re-designed mixer (and other panels) with actually legible text. I can't read the mixer text without squinting even on my 27" monitor. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by James - 21 Jan 03:42PM (edited 21 Jan 03:44PM) Hide picture I also would like a ribbon-less user interface like Sib 6. I understand that this would be difficult to do and that there would be people who actually want the ribbon interface. But you asked. I still use Sib 6.2 and will continue to do so. I only have Sib Ultimate 2021.12 for when I will be forced to update the Mac OS for security, and that could be soon. -- Mac OS 10.14 Mojave Sibelius 6.2 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 21 Jan 04:08PM Hide picture Those of you who are asking for a ribbon-less interface. What would you want in the alternative? The nested menu system is super cumbersome to deal with too. There's a reason practically no modern software uses that UI paradigm anymore. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Kenneth Gaw - 21 Jan 06:08PM Hide picture How about the ability to change the rhythm of notes with arrow keys in the same way that the pitch can be changed. Also, an option for intelligent rhythm pasting would be useful, eg two tied crotchets over a barline become a minim when pasted on to beat one. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by James - 21 Jan 07:27PM (edited 21 Jan 07:30PM) Hide picture > Those of you who are asking for a ribbon-less interface. What would you want in the alternative? The nested menu system is super cumbersome to deal with too. There's a reason practically no modern software uses that UI paradigm anymore. Really? On the contrary, nested menus are normal for mac programs. Every app I currently open on my mac has them. Even MS Word and Excel. Now they also have other interface elements, as did Sib 6, which had a tool bar, properties window, parts window, ideas window, etc. In other words, hierarchical menus are only one interface element in a good mac interface and it's best to keep them only one level deep. The Sib ribbon was/is licensed from MS and came with restrictions, such as it had to have icons that are not always easily recognized. To this day, many people hide the ribbon as much as possible and right click (or on the mac control click) in certain areas to get the old hierarchical menus. If you have many current users that are deliberately using workarounds to avoid your main user interface, you really need to rethink it, yes? -- Mac OS 10.14 Mojave Sibelius 6.2 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 21 Jan 07:36PM Hide picture > > Those of you who are asking for a ribbon-less interface. What would you want in the alternative? The nested menu system is super cumbersome to deal with too. There's a reason practically no modern software uses that UI paradigm anymore. > > Really? On the contrary, nested menus are normal for mac programs. Every app I currently open on my mac has them. Even MS Word and Excel. Now they also have other interface elements, as did Sib 6, which had a tool bar, properties window, parts window, ideas window, etc. In other words, hierarchical menus are only one interface element in a good mac interface and it's best to keep them only one level deep. > > The Sib ribbon was/is licensed from MS and came with restrictions, such as it had to have icons that are not always easily recognized. To this day, many people hide the ribbon as much as possible and right click (or on the mac control click) in certain areas to get the old hierarchical menus. If you have many current users that are deliberately using workarounds to avoid your main user interface, you really need to rethink it, yes? I never said we weren't rethinking the UI, I asked what the alternatives should be. We can't go back to Sibelius 6 as it was, that wasn't that good of a UI either, and lots of users are now used to the ribbon concept and like it. So we have to split the difference here. The question is how? -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by James - 21 Jan 07:48PM (edited 21 Jan 07:56PM) Hide picture > We can't go back to Sibelius 6 as it was, that wasn't that good of a UI either, and lots of users are now used to the ribbon concept and like it. So we have to split the difference here. The question is how? Well, I still use Sib 6 and that is what I like. To me, the way to split the difference would be to make Sib as usable as possible with the ribbon completely hidden. As I said, there are people who try to do this now with the current interface. They use shortcuts and right click menus as much as they can. If there were a way to basically turn the ribbon off and still have access to all the features, I believe that would make people happier. Justin Tokke, I encourage you to poll as many users as you can. It might surprise you that even after all this time the ribbon still is unpopular, as evidenced by some of us in this thread. But perhaps I'm wrong and there are lots of ribbon lovers. You have the challenge of trying to find out. But I congratulate you on taking the first steps by asking here! -- Mac OS 10.14 Mojave Sibelius 6.2 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by David - 21 Jan 07:53PM Hide picture > To me, the way to split the difference would be to make Sib as usable as possible with the ribbon completely hidden. One can already do that. Use the green arrow at top right, or use "full screen mode". -- Ultimate 2021.9, Windows 10 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by eddjc - 21 Jan 08:19PM Hide picture As to the UI and ribbons - no reason you can’t have both menus and Rubbin. Ribbon needs to be rethought though in terms of hierarchy of information and ideally customisable and possibility to completely hide it without it being a pain (i.e we need access to functions outside of the ribbon. Also in terms of UI i’d like some nicer updated graphics and a dark mode ideally. Everything needs to be scalable for high def monitors and e.g if Command Search is really that powerful then it could do with being bigger and central, like spotlight in Mac OS Truly though Sibelius needs gutting and rethinking: - “Appearance” and “Layout” need to be restructured and rethought with visual guides and feedback for all the functions. - “Backdoor” needs its own independent UI that is front and central to User tasks i.e on the ribbon if you like. IMO it’s the first thing you need to work with. - Document setup and instrument select screens need to be intelligently updated to properly reflect their functions. Instrument editing could be a powerful part of the program if better designed - Playback needs serious overhaul, with better support for VSTs - despite that it used to be the love of my life, I think it’s time to ditch the numpad for entry, or at least provide a viable alternative for laptop keyboards. Other features desirable: A dedicated way of entering figured bass that isn’t just a text style and includes continuation lines (and better glyphs) A way of changing vertical spacing rules inline. A way of managing multi-movement works with more ease (moving, restructuring, deleting without affecting other movements) A “note entry” mode to prevent you making accidental changes Ability to fully navigate and edit via the keyboard —- Sorry - too many things. You said one didn’t you? Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 21 Jan 08:33PM Hide picture > Sorry - too many things. You said one didn’t you? Yes, technically, but this is all good feedback, thank you! -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by eddjc - 21 Jan 09:32PM Hide picture > > Sorry - too many things. You said one didn’t you? > > Yes, technically, but this is all good feedback, thank you! Welcome :) There's more, but I feel if I go too far down that road I'll just start listing the features of one of your competitors, and it would be quicker if you just bought yourself a copy. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 21 Jan 10:11PM Hide picture About UI, why not take the Adobe example? They’ve got everything from minimal to very complete via Workspaces, sub-menus nested under long-presses, extremely powerful dialogs. This would allow the Ribbon area to stay, but become more flexible, with the addition of tools to the left and panels to the right. One thing I need from Sibelius is a search and filter functionality inside line/symbol editors when dealing with symbols. My house style has about 1300 custom symbols, and even if they are cleverly named, in those dialogs Sibelius orders them by creation date… -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 11.4.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 10.15.7 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 21 Jan 11:09PM Hide picture I've never liked the ribbon. It's implementation was poor and things can be extremely difficult to find if you don't already know where they are. I tend to use keyboard shortcuts and right click menus for almost every function I use. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 21 Jan 11:49PM Hide picture I started using Sibelius with version 5, but didn’t begin my professional engraving work until v7, so I personally don’t mind the ribbon. I completely understand your point of view but there are plenty of users who have known only this way so I agree with Justin that the “next UI” has to be carefully thought. -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 11.4.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 10.15.7 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by eddjc - 22 Jan 12:27AM Hide picture > I've never liked the ribbon. It's implementation was poor and things can be extremely difficult to find if you don't already know where they are. I tend to use keyboard shortcuts and right click menus for almost every function I use. here, here. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 21 Jan 11:56PM Hide picture > About UI, why not take the Adobe example? They’ve got everything from minimal to very complete via Workspaces, sub-menus nested under long-presses, extremely powerful dialogs. This would allow the Ribbon area to stay, but become more flexible, with the addition of tools to the left and panels to the right. > > One thing I need from Sibelius is a search and filter functionality inside line/symbol editors when dealing with symbols. My house style has about 1300 custom symbols, and even if they are cleverly named, in those dialogs Sibelius orders them by creation date… 1300?! What are they?!?! -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 22 Jan 09:04AM Hide picture > > 1300?! What are they?!?! > About 400 were already there 6 months ago, the others (and ramping up quickly) are part of a big personal project I plan to release in the coming months. Stay tuned ;-) I was wondering about something that could greatly improve Sibelius: take the example of InDesign and make House Styles become special .sibt (Sibelius Template) files that can be opened and edited to change a template/house style. InDesign offers “Open Original” (to edit the template) “Open Normal” (create a new document based on the template) “Open Copy” (create new template based on this), all from the same .indt file. I find myself tweaking my house styles many times per month and forgetting when and exactly what I changed, and if I changed it in all variants, resulting sometimes in unpleasant surprises. Conversely, I make little use of templates because they are fixed in time and I would need to open, edit, export MS paper again. The current workaround is to have manual templates that I open alongside working files and update at the same time, but it is indeed tedious. What do you think? -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 11.4.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 10.15.7 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Musix4me - 22 Jan 02:55PM Hide picture > I never said we weren't rethinking the UI, I asked what the alternatives should be. We can't go back to Sibelius 6 as it was, that wasn't that good of a UI either, and lots of users are now used to the ribbon concept and like it. So we have to split the difference here. The question is how? > > -- > Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius > justin.tokke@avid.com I agree. I prefer the Ribbon to the way it was...even though I'm not as familiar with it as I should be before asking for help. *nods to Robin -- Robert Moody https://www.musix4me.org Windows 10, Sibelius Ultimate 2021.12, Note Performer Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.00GHz, 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz, 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960, Sound Blaster Z Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Laurence Payne - 22 Jan 12:13AM (edited 22 Jan 12:21AM) Hide picture You want my spiel all over again? OK. You don't need a word AND a picture for everything. It just clutters the place up. Sometimes an icon is appropriate, but very often the best signifier for something is simply that thing's name. The Ribbon tabs could be de-cluttered. The Galleries could be half the size. Look at the Text gallery. We don't need the word 'Lyricist' AND the example 'William Shakespeare'. Just 'Lyricist', in the appropriate font, will do. And finish the Galleries. There shouldn't be any need for the More Options sections (though thanks for leaving the old menus available alongside the half-finished Galleries. Actually, dump most of the Galleries, just add their additional features to the old Time Signature etc. pages.) Sort out Edit Text Styles and Design & Position. The Print page is a mess. Look at any printer's Control Panel if you need to see how to do it. Maybe even dump it altogether and just link to our printer's CP. We can only do what our printers CAN do. Is Share/Send email ever going to work? If not, remove it. The Mixer. It's a disgrace. Resizeable Keypad. And lose the iPad-specific additions. That'll do for now :-) Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by eddjc - 22 Jan 12:31AM Hide picture > You don't need a word AND a picture for everything. It just clutters the place up. Sometimes an icon is appropriate, but very often the best signifier for something is simply that thing's name. The Ribbon tabs could be de-cluttered. The Galleries could be half the size. I agree with 99% of what you're saying Lawrence. I have to say though I do like visual aides. I don't mind the galleries (although I totally agree, no need to gild the lily with the Shakespeare thing). I think if you can do it in a useful way, keep previews, especially for symbols. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 22 Jan 09:05AM Hide picture > > 1300?! What are they?!?! > About 400 were already there 6 months ago, the others (and ramping up quickly) are part of a big personal project I plan to release in the coming months. Stay tuned ;-) I was wondering about something that could greatly improve Sibelius: take the example of InDesign and make House Styles become special .sibt (Sibelius Template) files that can be opened and edited to change a template/house style. InDesign offers “Open Original” (to edit the template) “Open Normal” (create a new document based on the template) “Open Copy” (create new template based on this), all from the same .indt file. I find myself tweaking my house styles many times per month and forgetting when and exactly what I changed, and if I changed it in all variants, resulting sometimes in unpleasant surprises. Conversely, I make little use of templates because they are fixed in time and I would need to open, edit, export MS paper again. The current workaround is to have manual templates that I open alongside working files and update at the same time, but it is indeed tedious. What do you think? -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 11.4.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 10.15.7 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 22 Jan 09:08AM Hide picture Newer subscribers to Sib may not be aware that certain bloated ribbon galleries can be bypassed in favour of pre-ribbon less cluttered options. See KeyboardShortcuts/NotationsTab: Show Clef Dialog. Assign shortcut q. Show Key Sig Dialog. Assign shortcut k. Show Lines Dialog. Assign shortcut l. Show Time Sig Dialog. Assign shortcut t. Show Symbols Dialog. Assign shortcut z. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 22 Jan 09:30AM Hide picture I do the same thing as Adrian does, though the search functions in the gallery lure me sometimes. I want to have all the options available in one place. MANY users never look at More and are not aware there are more options. So please either put all the options in the galleries or just use the dialogs. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 22 Jan 12:15PM Hide picture You could also do something about tremolo playback. Setting the tremolo to unmeasured does not affect tremolo speed as in b. 1. Unlike the ones in b.2. I know I could use a trill, but it's not correct. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Attachment unmeasured trmolos.sib (82K) Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 22 Jan 01:05PM Hide picture The symbols gallery has everything in one place, Bob, but the window is about three miles long. You could spend a week of scrolling just trying to find the category that lists your desired symbol. On a completely different subject, I don't use the virtual keypad as I have everything on it reconfigured with shortcuts that are easily remembered. But out of curiosity, I have just noticed that there are two buttons on it that I don't remember seeing before. Pitch correction tool and Chord input tool. What the bloody hell are they supposed to do? I tried to find an answer in the reference manual but am informed that there are no matches for either of them. Is the reference manual being updated at all with these scatterbrain additions? Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 22 Jan 01:44PM Hide picture Posted by Mike Lyons - 22 Jan 12:15 You could also do something about tremolo playback. Setting the tremolo to unmeasured does not affect tremolo speed as in b. 1. Unlike the ones in b.2. I know I could use a trill, but it's not correct. =========================================================== Mike, I've had this problem in the past. Solution: in measure 1, you can kill play on pass for the tremolo. Add a whole note on the C in voice 2 and add a trill. While selected goto properties/playback/trill. Edit 4 half steps for the maj.3rd. Select speed. Hide voice 2. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jan 08:41AM Hide picture > Posted by Mike Lyons - 22 Jan 12:15 > You could also do something about tremolo playback. Setting the tremolo to unmeasured does not affect tremolo speed as in b. 1. Unlike the ones in b.2. > I know I could use a trill, but it's not correct. > =========================================================== > > Mike, I've had this problem in the past. > Solution: in measure 1, you can kill play on pass for the tremolo. Add a whole note on the C in voice 2 and add a trill. While selected goto properties/playback/trill. Edit 4 half steps for the maj.3rd. Select speed. Hide voice 2. Thanks Adrian. That is how I get around it, but it is a drag and yet another thing that shouldn't be happening. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Robin Walker - 22 Jan 01:48PM (edited 22 Jan 01:52PM) Hide picture > Pitch correction tool and Chord input tool. What the bloody hell are they supposed to do? See the Sibelius Reference, section "3.2 Keypad", sub-sections "Pitch Correction tool" and "Chord Input tool", and also the Release Notes for Sibelius 2021.9: https://www.avid.com/resource-center/whats-new-in-sibelius-20219 -- Sibelius 2021.12/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 22 Jan 03:29PM Hide picture Thanx, Robin, but it seems that the reference manual I get when I hit the help (query) icon in my v.2021.9 is an outdated edition because there is no mention of "pitch correction tool" or "chord input tool" under section "3.2 keypad", nor is there any display of these buttons for these functions on the shown graphics. OK, so I see from the release notes that "pitch correction tool" does the same thing as the up/down arrows and accidental keys, and "chord input tool" does the same thing as the top row interval number keys, tho' only in increments of a 3rd upward. So why do I need them also on my virtual keypad, and why doesn't shft-klik on the "chord input tool" button produce a 3rd downwards? Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 22 Jan 03:51PM Hide picture > Thanx, Robin, but it seems that the reference manual I get when I hit the help (query) icon in my v.2021.9 is an outdated edition because there is no mention of "pitch correction tool" or "chord input tool" under section "3.2 keypad", nor is there any display of these buttons for these functions on the shown graphics. OK, so I see from the release notes that "pitch correction tool" does the same thing as the up/down arrows and accidental keys, and "chord input tool" does the same thing as the top row interval number keys, tho' only in increments of a 3rd upward. So why do I need them also on my virtual keypad, and why doesn't shft-klik on the "chord input tool" button produce a 3rd downwards? They are functions from the iPad version of the program. If you drag with your mouse (or finger if you have a touchscreen) you can drag the pitches up and down and add chord intervals easily. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 22 Jan 04:43PM Hide picture Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 22 Jan 15:51 They are functions from the iPad version of the program. If you drag with your mouse (or finger if you have a touchscreen) you can drag the pitches up and down and add chord intervals easily. ============================================== Then, Justin, I don't see why I need to see them on my desktop version. Also, intervals of a 3rd are only useful if you are building a chord upwards from the root and in close position. Not much use for inverted or spread chords. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 23 Jan 02:17AM Hide picture > Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 22 Jan 15:51 > They are functions from the iPad version of the program. If you drag with your mouse (or finger if you have a touchscreen) you can drag the pitches up and down and add chord intervals easily. > ============================================== > > Then, Justin, I don't see why I need to see them on my desktop version. Also, intervals of a 3rd are only useful if you are building a chord upwards from the root and in close position. Not much use for inverted or spread chords. The secondary feature with the chord tool is if you tap the button but then drag up and down before you release, you can create any interval you want. It takes a little getting used to, but it's a super convenient way of making chords if you don't use the "traditional" number key method. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Laurence Payne - 22 Jan 04:24PM Hide picture Bypassing the Ribbon galleries. http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/sibelius.html#t . Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Laurence Payne - 22 Jan 08:23PM Hide picture Also, despite the fetish for double-labelling everything. such a major feature as the Parts list hides behind a tiny, unannounced arrow! Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Chris Wimlett - 22 Jan 10:30PM Hide picture For guitar notation, I'd really like to see the notation and tab staves linked as in Dorico. Copying and pasting is OK but not if you make changes in the tab or notation. Unless I'm missing something. As for the interface, I agree about cleaning up the ribbon and allowing text only options. I do like the recent search options. Also, it would be very nice to be able to use the Avid cloud to store your own Sibelius projects for sharing between devices. Finally, an Android version -- Sibelius Ultimate, Cubase 11, Windows 10 Home v1909, Dell XPS 8930 Desktop 16GB RAM, Macbook Pro M1 8GB RAM Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Chris Wimlett - 22 Jan 10:32PM Hide picture Sorry, I just realised it should be one thing, so I'd go for guitar notation improvements. -- Sibelius Ultimate, Cubase 11, Windows 10 Home v1909, Dell XPS 8930 Desktop 16GB RAM, Macbook Pro M1 8GB RAM Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Peter Roos - 23 Jan 02:22AM Hide picture Revise the playback engine so it's easier to use VSTs, and while at it, redesign the mixer as well. Look at Dorico 4. The Sound World was great when it was introduced over 10 years ago but this is 2021. -- Peter Roos 2021 www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by David - 23 Jan 05:44AM Hide picture > > The Sound World was great when it was introduced over 10 years ago but this is 2021. > > -- Might wanna take a look at the calendar. Don't worry, I do the same thing too! -- Ultimate 2021.9, Windows 10 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 23 Jan 09:35AM (edited 23 Jan 09:41AM) Hide picture Posted by Laurence Payne - 22 Jan 20:23 such a major feature as the Parts list hides behind a tiny, unannounced arrow! ================================================== I would like to be able to place all parts onto the strip in one go and in score order rather than one at a time, and label them with their short name (as in the mixer) so that a fair sized ensemble (eg. big band) will fit on the strip for ease of comparison, copy-pasting and general editing. This would make part preparation much less tedious a chore. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 23 Jan 10:26AM Hide picture > I would like to be able to place all parts onto the strip in one go and in score order rather than one at a time, and label them with their short name (as in the mixer) so that a fair sized ensemble (eg. big band) will fit on the strip for ease of comparison, copy-pasting and general editing. This would make part preparation much less tedious a chore. I agree there should be a built-in way but there are three plugins that do this already: Open All Parts Open selected Parts Open selected Parts with checkbox -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.0.1 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 23 Jan 12:43PM Hide picture Thank you Michele, I didn't know about these plugins. I found 'Open Selected Parts' in 'Other'. But cannot find 'Open all parts'. What category is it in? Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 23 Jan 12:52PM Hide picture My bad, that plugin existed only in my mind. There is a checkbox to "Open All Parts" inside the "Open Selected Parts" one. Cheers -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.0.1 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Pierre - 23 Jan 01:05PM Hide picture Just my 2 cents. Please don't make Sibelius into a DAW. Stick with what you do best : notation. -- Best of all Pierre Sibelius Ultimate 2021.12 - iMac 27 - Monterey 12.1 Sibelius iPad 2021.7.0 - iPad Pro 12,9 - 14.0.1 Note Performer 3.3.2 www.pierrejulien.net Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jan 01:45PM Hide picture Since Adrian mentioned the manual, can anyone else verify this is in there? AFAIK, having just tried it, A tempo and Tempo 1 both work as expected! -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Attachment manual says mms atempo doesnt work.png (26K) Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jan 01:42PM Hide picture > I would like to be able to place all parts onto the strip in one go and in score order rather than one at a time, and label them with their short name (as in the mixer) so that a fair sized ensemble (eg. big band) will fit on the strip for ease of comparison, copy-pasting and general editing. This would make part preparation much less tedious a chore. If you want immediate access to ALL parts, in score order, isn't that the existing Parts menu? . Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jan 01:48PM Hide picture > I would like to be able to place all parts onto the strip in one go and in score order rather than one at a time, and label them with their short name (as in the mixer) so that a fair sized ensemble (eg. big band) will fit on the strip for ease of comparison, copy-pasting and general editing. This would make part preparation much less tedious a chore. I usually press and hold [ctrl]# even a large orchestra only takes a second or three :-) -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 23 Jan 03:16PM Hide picture > I usually press and hold [ctrl]# even a large orchestra only takes a second or three :-) > -- > mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Not sure I understand your shortcut, Mike, could you elaborate on it? Thx -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.0.1 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jan 04:06PM (edited 24 Jan 12:50AM) Hide picture @Michele Galvagno, have you TRIED opening a Full Score and pressing Ctrl-#? - edited. I erroneously addressed this to Mike originally - . Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jan 10:27PM (edited 23 Jan 10:28PM) Hide picture Yes. It opens all the parts one after the other in score order. If you want them in reverse order use [shift] with it! I use this trick all the time. Are you getting different results? -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 24 Jan 12:52AM (edited 24 Jan 01:25AM) Hide picture On my Windows keyboard, ctrl+# is ctrl+shift+3, so there is no way to get shot+ctrl+sharp. I also know of no command that will open all the parts, though such a command existed in Sib 6.(Edit: apparently it did not, such is memory). Mike, could you have a look in Keyboard Shortcuts and see what command your shortcut is mapped to? There is a dialog-free plugin Close All Parts. I could make up a comparable Open All Parts if that might be useful, though both such functions are available as part of Open Selected Parts. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Attachment snap1.png (16K) Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 24 Jan 08:43AM (edited 24 Jan 08:48AM) Hide picture Hi Bob, I forgot you cousins have a different keyboard layout. [shift]3 is the pound sign on my keyboard. The # is under the tilde next to the [return] key. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.9(build 3598) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Attachments KB_United_Kingdom.png (21K), keyboard shortcuts next part.png (25K) Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 24 Jan 09:33AM Hide picture ctrl/# does nothing for me, Mike, nor does shft/ctrl/# and I use the British qwerty pad. My £ character is on the top row shft/3 key. I think you must have configured this shortcut yourself. OK, I have installed 'Open selected parts' and I have applied Mike's shortcut to the plugin and it works. But in my original wish-for, I asked for short names to be used so that all parts (or most) will fit along the parts strip. I'm able to abbreviate all my short names to three or less (at most four) characters. I asked Daniel many moons ago if this was possible and he said "No". I don't believe this. If it works in the mixer, it should surely work for the parts strip. Bob Z, can this be done? Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Robin Walker - 24 Jan 09:44AM Hide picture Ctrl-# on a UK keyboard maps to "Next Part". Shift-Ctrl-# on a UK keyboard maps to "Previous Part". On other keyboards, these functions might be mapped to: Ctrl-Alt-. Ctrl-Alt-, -- Sibelius 2021.12/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 24 Jan 09:58AM Hide picture >Bob Z, can this be done? A plugin has no control over the name used in a tab, it appears to always be the Part Name field as shown in the BackStage - and there is no short PartName (there are full and short Instrument Names in Staves, but those are not the names used for Parts). The mixer is showing Instrument Names, not Part Names. You can't really use an Instrument Name as a part name in the general case, because some parts have more than one instrument in them. I suppose you should shorten the part name for each part; if every part is a single instrument, you could change the part name to be the short instrument name. But that would change the part name everywhere it is used in the score, and you probably don't want that. I am sure Sibelius could implement something to made the names in the tabs smaller, but each table will be the width or the visible score anyway, so there is a limit to how many tabs you will be able to see. I wonder if there are any other notation programs that have a better way to do this? -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 24 Jan 11:48AM Hide picture @Adrian. These are the default assignments, Adrian. I have changed nothing (apart from the ones for the TS and KS dialogs). I think Robin confirms this above. Is your system language set to Eng UK or US? I always use UK English, as American spellings irritate me. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.12 (build 580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Michele Galvagno - 24 Jan 11:58AM Hide picture Which tab are they nested under? Trying to look for them in my shortcuts -- MICHELE GALVAGNO ARTISTIC SCORE ENGRAVING, Owner Sibelius Ultimate 2021.2 MacBook Pro (2016), i7 2.7GHz, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.1 Mac mini (2018), i7, 16GB RAM, macOS 12.0.1 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 24 Jan 12:17PM (edited 24 Jan 12:39PM) Hide picture Thanx for the explanation, Bob. Yep, I didn't consider the difference between part name and instrument name. Robin & Mike. Preferences/KbdShortcuts & Language both show "English". There seems to be no option for UK or US. Sib tends to use American spellings for "colour" & "programme" &c. I didn't know this could be anglicised or anglicized. Where do I find what system Sib is using? PS. Never mind, I found it. Isn't Google wonderful! Seems my Windows is set to 'Merkan' English. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 24 Jan 03:02PM Hide picture @Adrian. Does it make a difference to the keyboard shortcuts if you change it? -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.12 (build 580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 27 Jan 07:07PM Hide picture Mike - I would still be interested in knowing exactly what is being run that will open all the parts. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 28 Jan 01:55PM Hide picture > Mike - I would still be interested in knowing exactly what is being run that will open all the parts. > Hi Bob. The short answer is nothing! [ctrl]# calls "Next Part" with shift it calls "Previous part" - at least, according to the keyboard shortcuts list. (see image higher up)^^^^^(edited 24 Jan 08:48) -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.12 (build 580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 29 Jan 01:11AM Hide picture Mike - thanks On my machine Next Part is ctrl+' and previous part is ctrl+shift+' = ctrl+" Next Part will open the Next Part if not open, otherwise it navigates to it,. Previous Part is the same thing in reverse order. So to open all the parts you could do Next Part for each part, which works, but it is not opening the parts all at once. Good to know what was happening, though! -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Peter Roos - 24 Jan 03:52PM Hide picture > > You can't really use an Instrument Name as a part name in the general case, because some parts have more than one instrument in them. > > I suppose you should shorten the part name for each part; if every part is a single instrument, you could change the part name to be the short instrument name. But that would change the part name everywhere it is used in the score, and you probably don't want that. > > I am sure Sibelius could implement something to made the names in the tabs smaller, but each table will be the width or the visible score anyway, so there is a limit to how many tabs you will be able to see. > > I wonder if there are any other notation programs that have a better way to do this? > > > > -- > Bob Dorico 4 has instrument filters, somewhat similar to 'focus on instruments' in Sibelius, but with more features. Not the same thing but maybe an idea for Sibelius as well. Technically there is a limit on how many part names can be displayed horizontally. If someone wants to have dozens of names, the only way is to have one of those super ultra wide screens. Sibelius already has a drop down menu so it shouldn't really be an issue. -- Peter Roos 2021 www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Ian Schofield - 26 Jan 10:53PM Hide picture The following would be useful: 1) Slurs that are solid to the mid point, but dotted / dashed beyond; and the other way around dotted / dashed first and solid from the mid point. 2) In a situation where you need the Violin instrument name between the two violin staves, but require I attached to the upper stave, and II attached to the lower stave. I needed both of these features for a recent Critical Edition, and I was able to devise my own workarounds to achieve the desired result. It would be good though to have a more automated method for both feature requests. With thanks Ian Schofield Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Gerard Power - 27 Jan 04:54PM Hide picture Transpose on iPad Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 27 Jan 05:03PM Hide picture > Transpose on iPad This is in the works. Stay tuned! -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Adrian Drover - 27 Jan 11:49PM Hide picture I find that Alt/o is free and makes a good shortcut for 'Open Selected Parts'. I'm finding this plugin most useful. Wish I'd known about it long ago. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 28 Jan 01:06AM Hide picture Glad you like it, Adrian. Too bad it has to exist. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Gerard Power - 31 Jan 03:40PM Hide picture Export as pdf on iPad Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Robin Walker - 31 Jan 04:34PM Hide picture > Export as pdf on iPad This has been available from the initial release of Sibelius on the iPad. It is a standard function of the iOS operating system: "un-pinch" on the print preview to make a PDF, then choose to save it in an appropriate location. -- Sibelius 2021.12/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Gerard Power - 31 Jan 04:47PM Hide picture Thank you Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by PhilShaw - 02 Feb 01:20AM Hide picture Here's a major feaure that may not be all that hard to implement: Playback of the lyrics on vocal staves. I.e. on playback have vocal staves actually sing the words. I achieve this currently by using the Virtual Singer feature of the Harmony Assistant product (VS/HA), as follows: *) Export a vocal score from Sibelius as either MIDI or Music XML. (Both forms work and both have pros and cons). *) Import the MIDI or Music XML into VS/HA. *) Tweak the lyrics in VS/HA. This is needed for words such as "live", which can rhyme with either "give" or "five", and VS doesn't know which is appropriate. *) Export the score from VS/HA as MP3. There is another product "emvoice" which generates voices with lyrics, but it won't import MIDI/Music XML files. Such a "virtual singer" feature would be fairly isolated from the rest of Sibelius. It could ALMOST be written as a VST, except that the MIDI transmitted to a VST doesn't include the lyrics. You MIGHT even be able to license the VS feature from Myriad (the developer of VS/HA). Since it's written as a plugin in Harmony Assistant, it might be not that difficult to adapt it to Sibelius. You can hear examples of Virtual Singer audio generated as above on my website, "philshaw.com/musicals". The VS audio isn't as good as numan singing, but it's much much better than the 'Choir Ahs" from MIDI playback. Such a virtual singer capability would be a real stand-out feature for Sibelius. I've used the VS/HA product for around 10 years now. It's a solid, reliable product, BUT the documetation is a challenge. I had to learn the above procedure with extensive trial-and-error and extensive consultation with the Myriad forum (which is excellent). If anyone wants to try it, I can supply some 'how-to' notes that will save a lot of learning time. -- Phil Shaw Sibelius 2020.3 - Windows 10 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by PhilShaw - 02 Feb 01:25AM Hide picture Here's another feature that's more mainline Sibelius: Connect lyrics and notes. Currently if I select a note and delete it, any slurs or dynamics connected to that note are also deleted. But a lyric word associated with that note is left dangling. I don't think anyone would currrently be making use of that "dangling lyrics feature", so correcting it shouldn't disrupt anyone. -- Phil Shaw Sibelius 2020.3 - Windows 10 Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 02 Feb 09:32AM Hide picture Here's yet another add from me - fix the behaviour of tuplets. They are still - after nearly 30 years - clunky and difficult to manipulate. You can't easily convert them to/from ordinary notes. They don't work when extracting/deleting voices... USW. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.12 (build 580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Jarrell - 12 Feb 08:54PM Hide picture Better support for importing Music XML files; continued support for updated Music XML standards (i.e. Music XML 4.0). I couldn't find the version of XML that Sibelius supports, but importing XML 4.0 files from Finale was a disaster, while getting the Finale user to export those same files as XML 3.0 worked much better when imported into Sibelius. I realize Music XML allows some flexibility in how to interpret notation, but, hopefully things will improve :-) -- OS X 12.2, Sibelius Ultimate 2021.12, Logic Pro X 10.7.2 Mac Mini 2018 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Justin at Sibelius - 13 Feb 02:43AM Hide picture Yes, we don't support 4.0 natively quite yet, though the Finale Dolet plugin might offer some help. -- Justin Tokke, Senior Product Designer at Sibelius justin.tokke@avid.com Contact the Sibelius support team: https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/contact-audio-and-music-support KB and other resources: https://www.avid.com/sibelius/learn-and-support Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 13 Feb 08:37AM Hide picture The best way I've found is to run it through MuseScore first then re-save it. -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.12 (build 580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Jarrell - 13 Feb 08:31PM Hide picture > The best way I've found is to run it through MuseScore first then re-save it. > Thanks Mike - that actually rings a bell, so I should give it a try. -- OS X 12.1, Sibelius Ultimate 2021.12, Logic Pro X 10.7.2 Mac Mini 2018 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 13 Feb 06:39PM Hide picture > Yes, we don't support 4.0 natively quite yet, though the Finale Dolet plugin might offer some help. > You can download Dolet 8 from https://www.musicxml.com/dolet-plugin/ but you have to have or create a MakeMusic account to do the download. I haven't tried Dolet 8 yet but typically the Dolet plugins are MUCH slower than the native Sibelius MusicXML support. The slowness is perhaps worth it if you need the MusicXML 4.0 support. Otherwise, Mike's advice of running the MusicXML through MuseScore is good. -- Patrick O'Keefe Sib 2021.12, NotePerformer, S7Sounds Win10 x64 Pro Intel i5-8400, 2.80Ghz, 16GB RAM Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Jarrell - 13 Feb 08:29PM Hide picture > Yes, we don't support 4.0 natively quite yet, though the Finale Dolet plugin might offer some help. > Thanks, "yet" is encouraging :-) However, I'm pretty sure Dolet supports export but not import of Music XML files... I haven't downloaded it so could be wrong about that, any Dolet users know? -- OS X 12.1, Sibelius Ultimate 2021.12, Logic Pro X 10.7.2 Mac Mini 2018 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Feb 09:11PM Hide picture > However, I'm pretty sure Dolet supports export but not import of Music XML files... Yes, the Dolet plug-in for Sibelius is MusicXML export only. Given that MusicXML 4 is a superset of the MusicXML that Sibelius supports for MusicXML import, then Sibelius can import MusicXML 4 simply by ignoring the extras. However, Sibelius throws a wobbly first, and requires firm and prompt action to make it do the import. -- Sibelius 2021.12/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2020.1, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mike Lyons - 13 Feb 10:45PM Hide picture Give it a slap around the chops with a wet kipper! Then it'll behave! :D -- Win 11 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2021.12 (build 580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,16TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Bob Zawalich - 13 Feb 11:15PM Hide picture > Yes, we don't support 4.0 natively quite yet, though the Finale Dolet plugin might offer some help. > Dolet only helps with Exporting MusicXML, not with importing. That part is all up to Sibelius. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2021+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2021. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mackieguy - 16 Feb 12:37AM Hide picture I definitely would like to see a modern way to create custom sound sets. I have not seen an update to the Sound Set Editor (which still requires AIR!!!???) in years unless someone can point me to a new version. But looking at Dorico, it shouldn't be to hard to create a new GUI editor to create new sound sets based on current HTML5/XML standards. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Mackieguy - 16 Feb 12:40AM Hide picture I definitely would like to see a modern way to create custom sound sets. I have not seen an update to the Sound Set Editor (which still requires AIR!!!???) in years unless someone can point me to a new version. But looking at Dorico, it shouldn't be to hard to create a new GUI editor to create new sound sets based on current HTML5/XML standards. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Philip Woodroffe - 16 Feb 03:27AM Hide picture I agree work on sound options should be looked at, we have had no updates since sibelius 7. at one point it looked like avid had given up with this and even allowed a discount for noteperformer come on you can do better than that. new sounds please. new sound engine, do something radical for once! -- Macbook pro i7 non retina 2.9ghz 16gb ram 10.14 mojave and windows 10. 1TB SSD boot drive, 2tb storage drive. noteperformer Sibelius 2019.9 Windows pc, i7 8th Gen 6 core, 16gb ram, m.2 NVME boot drive, 2TB spin drive 5200 rpm, and m.2 NVME drive 1TB storage drives. East West symphonic choirs and east west symphonic orchestra with johnathan loving sound sets photoscore 7.2. note performer Musescore, Noteworthy composer, melody assistant and virtual singer. Back to top | All threads

Re: If there was one thing you’d like in Sibelius, what would it be? Posted by Musix4me - 15 Sep 03:15AM Hide picture Two things I'd like (and Robin will probably tell me, "they can already do these, read the manual") are: Grace notes that are able to connect left or right of the principal note. I realize our local plug-in deity created another great workaround [sincere thanks, Bob], but since it is used often in music, one would hope it could be worked into the actual program. [I recommend having the shadow note (or a kind of pre-attachment line) magnetically stick to the sides of the notes as you drag it over them (currently it only sticks to the front or left of the note). You stick to the side you want the grace notes on and click to start entering there.] Turns: Creating a kind of place holder above and below turns where you can add Expression accidentals that actually play back. Or maybe add controls for turn variations in the Inspector and you change the accidental above or below from there and have the program place the symbol above or below the turn and playback correctly. Controls for early and late turns? Now...to get Wallander to get their act together and fix their shortcomings. Of course, with all that said,...I love Sibelius and NotePerformer. I'm not going anywhere. :-) -- Robert Moody https://www.musix4me.org Windows 10, Sibelius Ultimate 2022.7, Note Performer Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.00GHz, 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz, 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960, Sound Blaster Z Back to top | All threads