'Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem'

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Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 26 Nov 09:36PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Robin Walker, 26 Nov 10:25PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Andy G, 26 Nov 11:37PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Mike Lyons, 27 Nov 07:47AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Laurence Payne, 27 Nov 02:40PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 05:54PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Mark Isaacs, 01 Dec 06:52PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 06:00PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 05:58PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 05:56PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Robin Walker, 01 Dec 06:01PM

Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Art Resnick - 26 Nov 09:36PM
I am trying (for the first time in quick awhile) to live record but the latency is a beat late or more and as a result
not only the output is totally wrong but of course it doesn't
play back the way I played it in. I tried transforming but it messed it up even further.
Anything I've entered before was step by step. Too laborious.


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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 Nov 10:25PM
What Playback Configuration do you have selected?
If the Playback Configuration is "General MIDI (Basic)", or "NotePerformer", then that is the problem. You need to be using a low-latency playback configuration, such as "Sibelius 7 Sounds".

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Andy G - 26 Nov 11:37PM (edited 26 Nov 11:38PM)
To follow on from Robin's advice, the MA 2496 should be capable of very low latency figures. Mine's set around 10ms and I can go rather lower and still stay stable if the piece isn't too complex. And that's with a 10 year old Win 7 PC! Yours will surely equal or better that.

It's also worth searching on line for Daniel Spreadbury's excellent article 'Taming the Flexitime Beast'which gives good advice about the ins and outs of live recording.

I tried it, quickly gave up, and can easily input faster than I can play in live - and then have to edit!

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 Nov 07:47AM
The worse a keyboard player you are, the better you will succeed at flexi-time. If you are a pro standard player there are myriad small changes in the way you play that Sib will interpret and do its best to notate.

I have found that you need to play in strict tempo and as woodenly as possible if you expect the notation to be anything like readable when you're done.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Laurence Payne - 27 Nov 02:40PM
> The worse a keyboard player you are, the better you will succeed at flexi-time.

Or possibly quite the opposite! Precise playing may not always be the most musical choice, but it certainly requires technique!

I well remember my 'Christ! Is THAT what I played?' moment when I first got a sequencer (Steinberg Pro 24 on Atari ST).
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Art Resnick - 01 Dec 05:54PM
Thank everyone. I was waiting for an email but I forgot to check the box.


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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 01 Dec 06:52PM
> Thank everyone. I was waiting for an email but I forgot to check the box.

Email notifications don't work reliably even if you do check it.


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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Art Resnick - 01 Dec 06:00PM
Crap! I am a pro Jazz pianist and can play in time but as U suggest I'm sure my idiosyncrasies are all over the place!

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Art Resnick - 01 Dec 05:58PM
Thanks Andy. I'll check the article (probably won't understand it at my age) but more than likely will end up doing the same as you.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Art Resnick - 01 Dec 05:56PM
probably Note Performer

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem
Posted by Robin Walker - 01 Dec 06:01PM
> probably Note Performer

With Sibelius 7.x, you cannot record FlexiTime with NotePerformer as playback, without encountering huge latency problems.

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Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 26 Nov 09:36PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Robin Walker, 26 Nov 10:25PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Andy G, 26 Nov 11:37PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Mike Lyons, 27 Nov 07:47AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Laurence Payne, 27 Nov 02:40PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 05:54PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Mark Isaacs, 01 Dec 06:52PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 06:00PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 05:58PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Art Resnick, 01 Dec 05:56PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Can't figure out Latency problem - Robin Walker, 01 Dec 06:01PM