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Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disap... - Liz Nedela, 25 Nov 12:44AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Mark Isaacs, 25 Nov 01:15AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - jeffandrew1984, 25 Nov 02:22PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 25 Nov 04:28PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 28 Nov 05:00PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 28 Nov 05:04PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 28 Nov 05:17PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 28 Nov 09:02PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Chris Crawley, 29 Nov 12:37AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 29 Nov 10:47AM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Robin Walker, 29 Nov 12:22PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 29 Nov 05:45PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Robin Walker, 29 Nov 06:06PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 29 Nov 08:58PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Robin Walker, 29 Nov 09:48PM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 30 Nov 05:00AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 30 Nov 05:20PM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 30 Nov 05:55PM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 30 Nov 06:07PM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 01 Dec 02:38PM
                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 01 Dec 05:40PM

Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 25 Nov 12:44AM
Hello,

I believe I asked this question a couple days ago; however, it seems to have disappeared. I'll ask it again.

I have always saved my .sib to my desktop; however, that option has suddenly not been available in the past couple days. I would like to continue to save to desktop, because I have folders for each of my compositions on my desktop, and I keep all information for each composition in its folder.

Can anyone help me retrieve the ability to save to desktop?

Thanks so much.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 25 Nov 01:15AM (edited 25 Nov 01:20AM)
Liz, your thread did not disappear. It has just gone way down the list because it took you a while to come back and check. You received two replies from Robin on the same day you posted it. It's there if you look down the list (Title: Saving to desktop) but here is a direct link:

https://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=749255&groupid=3&

Please do not rely on email notifications of replies. They do not work reliably. You need to come back yourself and check very regularly. And try not to add a "Poll' to your threads, as you have done with this one.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by jeffandrew1984 - 25 Nov 02:22PM
Hi Liz,

I've been told that saving to the Desktop can be problematic in that it can slow down your machine, and have experienced this as well. Therefore I've always saved to the default Documents > Scores. Within Scores, you can create new subfolders to organize the files associated with your various projects.

This being said, you can always locate your Scores folder, and then create a shortcut to it on your desktop!

Hope this helps.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Laurence Payne - 25 Nov 04:28PM
In the olden days, having excess desktop icons might have slowed down a computer. Now it's just a messy and inefficient filing method. Use your Documents folder and its sub-folders for the intended purpose. As Jeff says, you can always Shortcut the Scores folder on the Desktop.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 28 Nov 05:00PM
Thank you so much everyone! I'm sorry I haven't replied before now. My computer totally crashed oh, and I had to order another one. I'm actually going to also try to get a refurbished iMac like I already have, since it was brand new one will be a different operating system and will most likely be problematic for my sibelius files. I'm thinking that if I get a refurbished older one to be a backup that might be a good idea.

But I also wanted to comment on the answers. I guess I should have taken a course in running sibelius oh, because I did not know about saving to the default scores and setting up subfolders. That sounds like an excellent idea. I did do the shortcuts on my desktop to open the sibelius files by going to find and driving it to my desktop. But while I was working on it, that's when I started having flashing lights on the desktop and then a total crash. I think perhaps I was working on a score and also another document that I had found to find without moving it to the desktop. I think I was actually working on the documents while it was in find. I think I've been unwittingly destroying my iMac by Saving to the desktop and then driving to the desktop from find. I thought I had a good system by having a sibelius composition file on my desktop and inside it have all of my sub folders. But perhaps that was just not the right way to handle it. Thank you so much for your suggestions, which I will follow in the future.

Now my next project will be to upgrade Sebelius and get it installed on my new computer when it arrives in a few weeks. All this when I have a lot on my plate already oh, some of which I just have to cancel because of this setback.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 28 Nov 05:04PM
I apologize for all of the typos in my last reply. Currently I'm having to dictate into my phone, and transcribing errors happen in cyberspace. It is maddening.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Laurence Payne - 28 Nov 05:17PM (edited 28 Nov 05:19PM)
>I think I was actually working on the documents while it was in find. I think I've been unwittingly destroying my iMac by Saving to the desktop and then driving to the desktop from find.

No, this won't have damaged your computer. If an expert's opinion is that you need a new computer, the failure of this one will have been for other reasons.

PLEASE tell us you have an up-to-date backup of all your Sibelius work! It won't magically re-appear when you install Sibelius on a new computer.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 28 Nov 09:02PM
I do have up-to-date backups of all my work. I'm hoping that when I install those onto my new computer that the computer will read them. I think the Sebelius is in 32-bit processing and a new computer will read 64-bit processing. Am I saying that correctly? That is very confusing.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Chris Crawley - 29 Nov 12:37AM
A Sibelius file is a Sibelius file. Whether the computer is 32-bit or 64-bit is irrelevant.

Whatever version of Sibelius you use, it will be able to open files made in that version or in earlier versions.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 29 Nov 10:47AM

Thanks, Chris for your reply I'm confused about how sibelius will react to the new iMac. I currently have version 7.3.1, and my new computer will be the new iMac with Catalina operating system. Where do I get information about how to upgrade and what version to use? I kept getting conflicting information when I try to search for an answer.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 Nov 12:22PM
> I currently have version 7.3.1, and my new computer will be the new iMac with Catalina operating system.

Sibelius 7.x is incompatible with Catalina or higher.

If you wish to continue using the Sibelius 7.x application, then do not upgrade to Catalina.

If you have Catalina and wish to use Sibelius, you must acquire the latest version of "Sibelius Ultimate" (not "Sibelius").

The only upgrade route available to you from the Avid web shop is to purchase the "cross-grade" to the Subscription Licence for Sibelius Ultimate:
https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartID=&sku=SBDYNA20021

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 29 Nov 05:45PM

Thank you so much for your reply. I need to get more information about what this subscription means. Is it true, that I will not be able to get a Perpetual license with this type of upgrade? Can you explain to me how the subscription works? Will I still own my compositions and have continue or access to them? I'm quite nervous about this.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 Nov 06:06PM
> Is it true, that I will not be able to get a Perpetual license with this type of upgrade?

You are too late to get a Perpetual Licence upgrade from the Avid web shop: those stopped being available w.e.f. January 2020. If you are lucky, then you might be able to find a re-seller who still has unsold stock of Sibelius Ultimate Perpetual Licence "Reinstatements":
https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/how-to-update-an-expired-sibelius-ultimate-perpetual-license-through-a-reseller/

> Can you explain to me how the subscription works?

You pay a monthly subscription to Avid. The subscription includes Support and regular updates of Sibelius to the most recent version. If/when you stop the monthly payments, Sibelius stops working completely.

Your existing scores are not destroyed when the subscription expires, but you will lack an application with which to open them.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 29 Nov 08:58PM
With the subscription,
1.how will I access Sibelius?
2.Will I open it from my desktop?
3.Will my .sib files be on my computer?
4.can I make a back-up on a thumb drive and external harddrive and iCloud?
5.Are there any limitations to using Sibelius subscription other than what you described if my subscription expires?

Thank you very much for your help!!

Liz
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 Nov 09:48PM
> With the subscription,
> 1.how will I access Sibelius?
> 2.Will I open it from my desktop?

The Sibelius application is the same product, whatever the form of licence. So you use it in the same way as you do now.

> 3.Will my .sib files be on my computer?

If you put them there. This question does not relate to Sibelius or its licensing.

> 4.can I make a back-up on a thumb drive and external harddrive and iCloud?

That's down to you to organise: this isn't a Sibelius-related question.

> 5.Are there any limitations to using Sibelius subscription other than what you described if my subscription expires?

Not that I can think of.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 30 Nov 05:00AM
Thanks, again, for your help! I do understand this better.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Laurence Payne - 30 Nov 05:20PM
@Liz Nedela

Please be absolutely sure you understand the current purchase/upgrade/rental system for Sibelius before committing to anything. Particularly your (very limited) options for upgrading your present version, the difference between a Perpetual licence with support subscription and a Rental licence, and what happens if you let either one lapse.

It's complicated.

It's different to what you signed up to when you bought your Sibelius 7.

And it won't seem 'fair'.

But we have to live with it.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 30 Nov 05:55PM

Thank you, Laurence. You mention rental. Is that what is meant by the subscription? Or is that something different
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 30 Nov 06:07PM

Thank you, Laurence. You mention rental. Is that what is meant by the subscription? Or is that something different?

Can you direct me to the site where I would proceed from here? Would that be the Avid site?
I presume I need to upgrade from my current version which is 7.3.1, to the ultimate version?
And then proceed to sign up for a subscription?
Should I wait until my new computer arrives, or should I do that as soon as possible even though I don't have my new computer yet, it will arrive December 21st.
I would like to know specifically how much it's going to cost.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Laurence Payne - 01 Dec 02:38PM
Someone must have laid this all out clearly somewhere! Anyone got a link?

My honest advice would be to get a PC instead of a Mac and carry on using your Sibelius 7. Too late?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disappeared
Posted by Liz Nedela - 01 Dec 05:40PM

Thanks everyone for your support and advice! I appreciate it very much!
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Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has disap... - Liz Nedela, 25 Nov 12:44AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Mark Isaacs, 25 Nov 01:15AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - jeffandrew1984, 25 Nov 02:22PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 25 Nov 04:28PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 28 Nov 05:00PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 28 Nov 05:04PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 28 Nov 05:17PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 28 Nov 09:02PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Chris Crawley, 29 Nov 12:37AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 29 Nov 10:47AM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Robin Walker, 29 Nov 12:22PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 29 Nov 05:45PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Robin Walker, 29 Nov 06:06PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 29 Nov 08:58PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Robin Walker, 29 Nov 09:48PM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 30 Nov 05:00AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 30 Nov 05:20PM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 30 Nov 05:55PM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 30 Nov 06:07PM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Laurence Payne, 01 Dec 02:38PM
                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Option to save to desktop has d... - Liz Nedela, 01 Dec 05:40PM