'Accidentals in plain text'

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Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 22 Jun 07:16PM
     Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 22 Jun 08:02PM
         Re: Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 22 Jun 09:16PM
             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 22 Jun 09:28PM
                 Re: Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 22 Jun 09:37PM
                     Re: Accidentals in plain text - Mike Lyons, 23 Jun 06:35AM
                         Re: Accidentals in plain text - marvinglenn, 25 Jun 05:19PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Mike Lyons, 25 Jun 05:45PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 25 Jun 06:10PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 25 Jun 06:12PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 25 Jun 06:42PM
                                 Re: Accidentals in plain text - Adrian Drover, 26 Jun 06:21AM

Accidentals in plain text
Posted by dctguitarist - 22 Jun 07:16PM
I used to type accidentals in plain text with as described on p440 of manual. In Sibelius Ultimate, this no longer seems to work. Control plus number just gives me the number. Any help? Thanks.
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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Robin Walker - 22 Jun 08:02PM
Is that Plain Staff Text, or Plain System Text?

I don't think accidentals have ever been available in Plain Text styles. They are available in, for instance, in Technique Text, by holding down Ctrl and using 7, 8, or 9 from the numeric keypad.

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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by dctguitarist - 22 Jun 09:16PM
With Plain Staff Text. I have done this for years with previous versions of Sibelius using control and 7, 8, or 9. I make educational documents for teaching music theory and have used this function extensively. Now suddenly it no longer works.
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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Robin Walker - 22 Jun 09:28PM
If you want accidentals in Plain Staff Text, then you will have to reconfigure the Text Style for Plain Text so that "Word Menu" is "Symbols" instead of "Tempo words"

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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by dctguitarist - 22 Jun 09:37PM
Got it. Thanks. When I upgraded, it must have defaulted to tempo words.
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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jun 06:35AM
Along with the inclusion of wildcards in some text styles. You can define entries in the word list, if you prefer.


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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by marvinglenn - 25 Jun 05:19PM
I'm wanting to create the "flat" symbol on chords like B flat but Sibelius only writes the word or the number 9.

I see from the above suggestions that I need to "reconfigure the Text Style for Plain Text so that "Word Menu" is "Symbols" instead of "Tempo words". I am following this instruction in the word menu but it isn't working as expected.

Please tell me what I'm doing incorrectly. Thank you!
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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Mike Lyons - 25 Jun 05:45PM
Just add the symbol to the word list:

File-->Preferences-->Word Menus. There is no menu for "Plain Text"!

So create a new one.

The existing text style for plain text should already be set to symbols


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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Robin Walker - 25 Jun 06:10PM
> I see from the above suggestions that I need to "reconfigure the Text Style for Plain Text
> so that "Word Menu" is "Symbols" instead of "Tempo words".
> I am following this instruction in the word menu but it isn't working as expected.

The instructions were for a user who was trying to enter text in style "Plain Text". If you are trying to enter text in a different text style, then you need to re-configure the appropriate Text Style Definition, which will not be "Plain Text".

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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Robin Walker - 25 Jun 06:12PM
> I'm wanting to create the "flat" symbol on chords like B flat but Sibelius only writes the word or the number 9.

In the special case of chord entry, you obtain the flat sign by typing a lower-case 'b'.

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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by dctguitarist - 25 Jun 06:42PM
If you're using the Roman numeral tool, you have to type the numbers on the alpha-numeric keypad, not the number keypad. If you are using the Chord tool, I don't remember which, but try both keypads and see if one of them works.
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Re: Accidentals in plain text
Posted by Adrian Drover - 26 Jun 06:21AM
You can type "Bb" in Technique or Plain Text, select the "b" part, goto Text/Format/CharacterStyle, select MusicText. You now have the flat character. Same deal to change the hash character to a sharp.
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Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 22 Jun 07:16PM
     Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 22 Jun 08:02PM
         Re: Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 22 Jun 09:16PM
             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 22 Jun 09:28PM
                 Re: Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 22 Jun 09:37PM
                     Re: Accidentals in plain text - Mike Lyons, 23 Jun 06:35AM
                         Re: Accidentals in plain text - marvinglenn, 25 Jun 05:19PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Mike Lyons, 25 Jun 05:45PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 25 Jun 06:10PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - Robin Walker, 25 Jun 06:12PM
                             Re: Accidentals in plain text - dctguitarist, 25 Jun 06:42PM
                                 Re: Accidentals in plain text - Adrian Drover, 26 Jun 06:21AM