Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 08 Aug 06:07PM (edited 11 Aug 02:13AM) Hide picture I have a large score in which I just changed one perc player from crotales to ratchet. It plays back perfectly by itself, but when I add the other instruments, the ratchet will not stop. Has anyone else experienced this? This score primarily uses NP, with a couple of instruments from Sibelius. -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 & Note Performer 3 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 08 Aug 06:42PM Hide picture For solutions to playback problems, please attach the Sibelius .sib score file which demonstrates the issue. Please also give details of the "Playback Configuration" in use to play the score, and direct us to the location in the score of the playback problem. -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 08 Aug 10:43PM (edited 08 Aug 11:59PM) Hide picture Although I'm away from my office now, I will attempt to attach such a file later. I have had no luck in the past creating a small portion of a large score for such purposes. And I am somewhat reluctant to share the whole piece publicly yet. What is my best option and how do I do it? -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Bob Zawalich - 09 Aug 06:13AM Hide picture The downloadable plugin Disguise Score will scramble pitches and text in a copy of your score it often leaves enough of the structure of the score to reproduce problems. Worth a shot. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 2019+, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2019. Free Resources: Notating Harp Music In Sibelius: http://www.bobzawalich.com/harp-notation-in-sibelius/ Get Saved Sibelius Version: http://www.bobzawalich.com/get-saved-sibelius-version-application/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Adrian Drover - 09 Aug 01:58PM Hide picture Or make a copy of the score and delete all the bars that are not relevant to the problem. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 09 Aug 05:22PM Hide picture Please find attached a copy of the score with most of the music removed. The problem occurs at one after J. Interestingly, when I used Disguise This Score, the scrambled version did NOT have the problem. Is that a clue? The configuration is two Aria players and five NP. Does it work for you? -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Peter Roos - 09 Aug 05:30PM Hide picture There's no attachment -- please try again. I believe there is a size limit to attachments, maybe it is too large. -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 09 Aug 05:32PM Hide picture trying again -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Laurence Payne - 09 Aug 06:41PM (edited 09 Aug 08:16PM) Hide picture ...but there's little point in sharing a score that DOESN'T have the problem :-) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 09 Aug 07:29PM (edited 09 Aug 10:30PM) Hide picture Sorry I wasn't clear. The one I shared here, if it came through, definitely has the problem. -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 09 Aug 08:44PM Hide picture On this forum, the maximum size of an attachment is 1 MB. If your Sibelius .sib score file is larger than that, then it is likely bloated with internal "versions". Just use ribbon tab Review -> Edit versions to Export the current "version" as a stand-alone score file, and attach that to your next post. -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Mike Lyons - 10 Aug 07:56AM (edited 12 Aug 05:51AM) Hide picture Have you checked for hanging ties? (Not necessarily on the last note which hangs.) -- Win 10 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2019.7(build 1580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,10TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 11 Aug 02:18AM (edited 15 Aug 02:28PM) Hide picture Following Robin's suggestion, I have attached a smaller version. On my system, it still has the problem. Thanks for looking. -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Attachment Stabat Mater-disg.sib (155K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Peter Roos - 11 Aug 03:47AM Hide picture Hi Paul: I played back and it plays back fine for me. Are you talking about the ratchet in bar 274? -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Adrian Drover - 11 Aug 08:44AM Hide picture Same here. I think there is a minimal amount of decay hanging over the barline on the ratchet, but it has a definite cutoff point. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 11 Aug 05:04PM Hide picture Drat. I get a very different result. My ratchet NEVER stops. Can someone tell me the exact coding for a MIDI Note OFF, to put in the next bar? -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Adrian Drover - 11 Aug 06:37PM Hide picture I think you must have wiped out from your posted score whatever was causing the problem. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Aug 06:49PM Hide picture > I think you must have wiped out from your posted score whatever was causing the problem. That is always the danger of posting something that is not exactly the score in which the problem is being observed. -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Peter Roos - 12 Aug 04:40AM Hide picture Paul, if you want to share the full score you can send a Dropbox link or pm us privately if you don't want to share the full score online. -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Mike Lyons - 12 Aug 05:51AM Hide picture Why not just extract the part and post that as a sib file? That way, we can see the whole part without you publishing the full score online. -- Win 10 Pro x64, Sib Ultimate 2019.7(build 1580) 2.6GHz Intel Core i7 9750H, 32GB,10TB (SSD + 7200rpm HDD), Scarlett 2i4, Sib 6.2,7.5, NotePerformer and others. Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. mike@mike-lyons.co.uk Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 13 Aug 02:51PM Hide picture Question: are you playing all the instruments or just the ratchet line? I only hear the problem when all instruments are playing. -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 13 Aug 02:52PM Hide picture I'm now trying to stop the sound with MIDI Note Off. Is this the correct code for the ratchet: ~075,0 thanks! -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Aug 05:40PM (edited 13 Aug 05:49PM) Hide picture That cannot be correct, as no MIDI command begins with the digit zero. Presumably you mean to start it with upper-case letter O. The number after the letter O will depend upon the playback configuration and SoundSet file in use for that particular instrument. -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Aug 05:48PM Hide picture I see that you have a Bass Clarinet in this score. Do you know about the problems with the Bass Clarinet patch in the Sibelius 7 Sounds sample library? Have you applied the fix for that? It can cause unpredictable problems elsewhere in the score. http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/Unable-to-play-back-some-scores-in-Sibelius-problem-with-Bass-Clarinet-patch -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 13 Aug 06:00PM (edited 13 Aug 08:46PM) Hide picture Robin, I was unaware of that particular problem, so I appreciate your including that link. I will definitely apply that patch. It seems unlikely to affect my current problem, however, because my B. Cl. is from Note Performer 3. Obviously, I am dreadfully unaware of MIDI coding, so if you could steer me to the proper code for Note Off for a NP ratchet, coming after NP crotales, I would be most appreciative. Does the fact that the part works fine on its own indicate anything helpful? -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Aug 07:16PM Hide picture > the proper code for Note Off for a NP ratchet I think you should try: ~O91,0 -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 14 Aug 01:16AM Hide picture Thanks, Robin. Can't wait to try it (but have to). -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 15 Aug 03:01PM Hide picture I'm sorry to report that ~O91,0 and many other pitch numbers did not stop the ratchet. Can someone confirm for me that when I shared a version of the score above, that the ratchet behaved correctly even when all instruments were playing? -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Robin Walker - 15 Aug 03:44PM Hide picture No-one can play your score the same as you play it, because we do not have whatever Playback Configuration you are using. -- Sibelius 2019.7/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 2018.7, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop, and Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Ratchet won't stop Posted by Paul Gibson - 15 Aug 07:06PM Hide picture I give up. I have added the ratchet without any playback. Very disappointing. -- Paul Gibson • Sib 7.5.1 • Windows 10 • 3.20 GHz • 16 MB RAM • Sib 7 Sounds & Note Performer 3 & Garritan Personal Orchestra 4, 5 • paulfgibson2@gmail.com Back to top | All threads