'Trumpet in G'

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Trumpet in G - Ray Burkhart, 18 Apr 09:46PM
     Re: Trumpet in G - Robin Walker, 18 Apr 10:27PM
         Re: Trumpet in G - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 12:06AM
             Re: Trumpet in G - Adrian Drover, 19 Apr 07:16AM
                 Re: Trumpet in G - Rob Tuley, 19 Apr 03:34PM
                     Re: Trumpet in G - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 07:32PM
                         Re: Trumpet in G - Adrian Drover, 20 Apr 07:25AM

Trumpet in G
Posted by Ray Burkhart - 18 Apr 09:46PM
Trumpet in G (no key) is the only option available, but I want to add an instrument, Trumpet in G, which does have a key. Any ideas?

And how do I report such an omission to Sibelius?
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Re: Trumpet in G
Posted by Robin Walker - 18 Apr 10:27PM
Users can define instruments themselves in cases where the instrument they want does not ship as a default definition.

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Re: Trumpet in G
Posted by Laurence Payne - 19 Apr 12:06AM
As you have 'Trumpet in G (no key)' available, we can deduce that you own the full version of Sibelius.

Therefore you can edit and create Instruments. Obviously it would be sensible to use the existing Trumpet in G as a basis. Select it in the Edit Instruments page. Click New Instrument. The setting you need to change before saving the instrument under a new name is in Staff Type/General. See attached screenshot.

Remember to save a House Style or Manuscript Paper containing the instrument, if you think you'll want to use it again.
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Re: Trumpet in G
Posted by Adrian Drover - 19 Apr 07:16AM
If you have no need to use G trumpet in open key, you don't need to create a new instrument. Just edit the default instrument as per Laurence's instruction. On the other hand, if you are using G trumpet to reproduce an ancient score, it would be appropriate to stick to the default notation. I've never seen a trumpet in G, but I presume that it is a natural (valveless) instrument, which obviously needs no key sig.
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Re: Trumpet in G
Posted by Rob Tuley - 19 Apr 03:34PM (edited 19 Apr 07:17PM)
It may not be so "ancient". Apparently there were (ancient) piccolo trumpets in G, but also USA drum and bugle corps evolved from using valveless instruments to use a "soprano bugle in G" which had an assortment of valves (e.g. two piston valves plus a trigger mechanism) and was getting close to being a trumpet at low G pitch, but redesigned by the same committee which first produced the camel...

In modern US bugle corps those have now been replaced by conventional B flat trumpets, but that change didn't happen until about 2000, so I expect there is lot of sheet music for the earlier instruments still out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkbspKwa76k

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Re: Trumpet in G
Posted by Laurence Payne - 19 Apr 07:32PM (edited 19 Apr 07:33PM)
Both the Soprano Bugle in G and its Baritone cousin are standard-issue in current Sibelius.

In fact, another approach to getting a Trumpet in G would be to simply re-name one of those. Either in the instrument definition or directly in the score.
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Re: Trumpet in G
Posted by Adrian Drover - 20 Apr 07:25AM (edited 20 Apr 07:32AM)
I once subbed in a band with marching instrumentation on baritone in Bb. By heck, it got really heavy to hold up for long passages. Can't imagine what the bigger instrument in G would be like to hold.
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Trumpet in G - Ray Burkhart, 18 Apr 09:46PM
     Re: Trumpet in G - Robin Walker, 18 Apr 10:27PM
         Re: Trumpet in G - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 12:06AM
             Re: Trumpet in G - Adrian Drover, 19 Apr 07:16AM
                 Re: Trumpet in G - Rob Tuley, 19 Apr 03:34PM
                     Re: Trumpet in G - Laurence Payne, 19 Apr 07:32PM
                         Re: Trumpet in G - Adrian Drover, 20 Apr 07:25AM