Phillip,
The file I was working on when I had the problem is attached.
The lines I was editing when I had trouble were the custom lines consisting of right angles (this is a hymn and I created a line using the Sibelius line editor, to denote intro sections for each hymn). Each line has a couple of symbols (making a composite right-angle symbol), at the start of the line, and a corresponding set at the end of each line, and empty space in between.
In this case, I wanted to overlay two copies of this Sibelius line object, so that there are two options for starting the hymn intro section, but terminating at the same point (so there is only one line-ending symbol visible, because the two copies of it, one from each line object, are overlaid). In Sibelius 2018.7 and prior, I had no problem with this scheme.
In 2018.11, I was trying to overlay the symbols on top of each other, and doing so at maximum zoom factor (usually 1600% zoom, although I've also reproduced the problem at smaller zoom factors). When selecting the line-ending termination symbol and trying to move it to the left, it seems fine, but moving the symbol to the right, away from the attachment point, often has no visual effect, or less effect than I thought it should. Once I played with it for a while, I discerned that the attachment point was receding to the left away from my symbol, as I was hitting the right arrow on the keyboard. The net result was very little visual movement of the line-ending symbol, even while the X value for the line terminating symbol was increasing. But also, noticeably, in a neighboring part, the symbol I was trying to edit was now moved to the left from where it was previously located.
I am not sure whether the attachment point might spontaneously move to the right at any point. I think it does sometimes, because I have seen the symbols disappear in neighboring parts, when the attachment point moves to the right outside the bounds of the measures of the piece of the music (the symptom being the line-ending symbols disappear completely in some of the parts, until I add a measure and move them back to the left from the full score). But I haven't come up with a procedure to reproduce the right-ward movement of the attachment point yet.
I am not surprised you could not quickly reproduce my problem, since this may be a niche case.... a custom line, moving with the keyboard, at high zoom levels, and noticeable because the line is present in multiple parts (I make different transpositions with the same source staves, making use of an instrument change at the beginning of each Sibelius part so that the same material can be printed in multiple transpositions without copy/paste, and with all edits in sync). But it is relatively easy to reproduce given my attached file, and represents a clear regression from previous behavior. If you have any further trouble reproducing the issue (if my explanation doesn't make sense for example), let me know and perhaps I could set up a screen sharing session with one of your testing engineers to demonstrate the problem.
FYI, I am on Windows 10, using Sibelius Ultimate 2018.11 (although I suspect it doesn't matter which operating system or flavor of the program, given the nature of the problem).
I have not yet tried to reproduce the problem with a non-custom line; I suspect I would have the same problems, but I haven't confirmed it yet. |
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