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Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 07:41AM
     Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 08:58AM
         Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 09:17AM
             Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 09:18AM
             Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 09:47AM
                 Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 10:43AM
                     Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 11:24AM
                         Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 11:26AM
                             Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 11:26AM
                                 Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 11:37AM
                             Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 11:46AM
                                 Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 12:07PM
                                     Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 27 May 05:50AM
                                         Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 27 May 09:54AM
                                             Re: Sibelius - Mike Lyons, 27 May 10:43AM
                                                 Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 27 May 12:23PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 24 Jul 05:32PM
                                                         Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 24 Jul 10:25PM

Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 26 May 07:41AM
Hi,
Hoping you can help. I am unable to print from Sibelius. If I do it looks like it spools but it never makes it to the printer. Additionally if I try and print to a pdf pro 10 file the fonts don't render correctly. I am not sure if these two issues are related.The printer is a HP Officejet pro 6970. I have installed the latest driver for it. The printer is new and I think printing from Sibelius has never worked to it. I can print to it from other applications including the badly rendered pdf pro files that generate.
Hoping someone has some ideas.
Regards
Lisbeth

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 May 08:58AM
Which version of Windows? Which version of Sibelius?

Does this problem exist for one score only, or for all scores that you try?

Do the scores look correct on the screen?

If you use the built-in "Export to PDF" feature of Sibelius, does that exported PDF then print correctly?

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 26 May 09:17AM
Hi Robin,
It is Windows 10 and sibelius 8.something. If I do the export all chord symbols drop off but they show up in the print!
This will certainly be a workaround for me but I do still wonder why direct printing is still failing?
Regards
Jazzo

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 26 May 09:18AM
Apologies
All scores and they do look correct on the screen

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 May 09:47AM
> It is Windows 10

What version of Windows 10? This is a 4-digit number, such as "1803". You can find it in Settings -> System -> About.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 May 10:43AM (edited 26 May 10:55AM)
I'm somewhat worried by your reference to "PDF Pro". As far as I can determine, "PDF Pro" is a web-based product. It would be entirely unable to interpret a Sibelius score file. The "PDF Pro" web site seems to have some difficulties with English.

I see other reports online that regard "PDF Pro", as AdWare, or Malware, or a "Potentially Unwanted Program" (PUP), and provide instructions for removing it. Does your PC suffer from unwanted advertising brought to you by "PDF Pro"? Does your anti-virus or anti-malware product ever flag up PDF Pro as problematic?

Can you describe in detail what it is that you do (in terms of each mouse click, each keyboard entry) to create a PDF from Sibelius using this "PDF Pro"?

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 26 May 11:24AM
Actually pdf pro isn't my problem. My problem is that sibelius files do not print. I just added the pdf pro (a paid for program) in case it added value.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 26 May 11:26AM
windows is 1803

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 26 May 11:26AM
printing to pdf pro is just print and choose pdf pro 10 as the printer

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 May 11:37AM
> printing to pdf pro is just print and choose pdf pro 10 as the printer

But why is this necessary: Windows 10 supports printing to PDF within the operating system - the printer is called "Microsoft Print to PDF". No third-party PDF printers have been necessary since Windows 10 was released.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 May 11:46AM
> windows is 1803

These instructions refer to version 1803 and later:

- click Start -> Settings -> Devices -> Printers and scanners;
- single-click the name of the printer driver that you are trying to use, then click the button "Manage" that appears;
- click "Printer properties";
- in the Properties panel, click tab "Advanced";
- select "Print directly to the printer" (instead of "Spool print documents so program finishes printing faster");
- click OK.

Now try printing from Sibelius. Watch out for any error messages flashing up, or appearing on the printed output: if they appear, please report the exact wording here.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 May 12:07PM
More news: there are plenty of reports on support forums on the web that the version 1803 of Windows 10 prevented printing working properly in certain circumstances. It is difficult to say whether this applies to your case.

Some users report that, under version 1803, they can print single pages, but not multiple pages. Does that apply in your case: can you print just single pages from Sibelius?

Can you say whether Sibelius printing worked in previous versions of Windows 10, before the 1803 update?

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 27 May 05:50AM
Hi
The option to print directly is greyed out. I will have to work out why that is. I have worked out that I can print the sibelius files using the microsoft print to pdf function so that is an acceptable workaround for now.
The issues I have to work out is
(1) Why I cannot print directly
(2) Why the files don't render correctly if I use PDF Pro 10.
I am unsure when I updated windows (or if). I have it set to auto update and don't tend to notice when it happens. The printer is new and whilst I cannot be sure that may be the issue. Both printing and correct rendering of fonts in PDF pro have worked in the recent past on this computer.
I thank you for your assistance. You have given me some things to think about but I will not have time to look at this further for a good week so I think I will just put it to bed from the forum perspective.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 27 May 09:54AM
> The issues I have to work out is
> (1) Why I cannot print directly

That is the way that some printer device drivers are designed.

> (2) Why the files don't render correctly if I use PDF Pro 10.

Virtual PDF printers are also affected by the printing problems of Windows 10 version 1803 already described.

I suggest that you try again after Microsoft have released the fixes for those printing problems, which are expected within the next few weeks. Although there might be a quite different problem lurking underneath, it will be difficult to diagnose until the Microsoft issues are out of the way.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 May 10:43AM
Can I just add to this to say I have not had any printing problems like this on Win 10 Pro v 1803 build 17134.48. My laptop that I use all the time is over 7 years old (although it was very high spec when I bought it). I have used both external pdf editors and windows' own, as well as Sibelius' export. All without problems. the only issue I ever had was with fonts not being properly catered for.

Just saying.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 27 May 12:23PM
Indeed and fonts is what I am thinking is the issue
Regards :^)

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by Robin Walker - 24 Jul 05:32PM
Lisbeth,

This printing issue was fixed by Windows Update KB4340917 released on 2018 July 24.

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Re: Sibelius
Posted by jazzo - 24 Jul 10:25PM
Thank you Robin. You get 10 out of 10 for customer service!
Regards
Lisbeth

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Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 07:41AM
     Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 08:58AM
         Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 09:17AM
             Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 09:18AM
             Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 09:47AM
                 Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 10:43AM
                     Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 11:24AM
                         Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 11:26AM
                             Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 26 May 11:26AM
                                 Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 11:37AM
                             Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 11:46AM
                                 Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 26 May 12:07PM
                                     Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 27 May 05:50AM
                                         Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 27 May 09:54AM
                                             Re: Sibelius - Mike Lyons, 27 May 10:43AM
                                                 Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 27 May 12:23PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius - Robin Walker, 24 Jul 05:32PM
                                                         Re: Sibelius - jazzo, 24 Jul 10:25PM