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How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 10 Apr 08:20PM
     Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 10 Apr 10:29PM
         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 11 Apr 08:14AM
             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Cowboy Bob, 11 Apr 02:36PM
                 Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 11 Apr 03:01PM
                     Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Cowboy Bob, 11 Apr 08:26PM
                         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 11 Apr 08:31PM
                             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 13 Apr 10:51AM
                         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 13 Apr 10:44AM
                             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 13 Apr 09:17PM
                                 Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 14 Apr 09:22PM
                                     Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 14 Apr 10:53PM
                                         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 15 Apr 05:38PM
                                             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Steve, 17 Apr 06:17AM

How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 10 Apr 08:20PM (edited 10 Apr 08:30PM)
Hi there,

I want to screen cast Sibelius but my Screen cast program - Screencast-o-matic doesn't capture the sound from the midi keyboard and the playback.

Does anyone know how to make a screencast in Sibelius with audio?

My OS is Windows 10.

Many thanks in advance,

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Robin Walker - 10 Apr 10:29PM
Sibelius sends playback sound to the audio interface specified in "Audio Engine Options".

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 11 Apr 08:14AM
Yes, I know, but for some reason the screencast program doesn't recognize it. There is no information on the internet regarding this problem, however in Cubase this is a very known issue and the common claim is that Windows can't recognize the ASIO option. However, when I tried the other audio engines in Sibelius the latency is too high and I can't record the midi keyboard sound because of the delay.

The Cubase users solved the problem with an additional software that they use for this purpose, which is kind of an additional mixer that route the audio to the windows system. So my question is if there is a plugin or any other way to do that in Sibelius.

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Cowboy Bob - 11 Apr 02:36PM (edited 11 Apr 02:37PM)
So you're probably looking for a Soundflower type alternative for windows. Here are some to look at:

1) http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows

2) http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/index.htm

3) http://www.kvraudio.com/product/rewire_vst_by_xt_software/details
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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 11 Apr 03:01PM (edited 11 Apr 03:05PM)
> So you're probably looking for a Soundflower type alternative for windows. Here are some to look at:


Hi Bob,

The first two links don't work..Anyway, what is Soundflower and how can it help solve this problem?

Many thanks,

Na'ama
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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Cowboy Bob - 11 Apr 08:26PM (edited 11 Apr 08:28PM)
Soundflower is a virtual audio cable for Mac OS. Basically a loopback app that will take an audio source and route it to a destination that you want.

It sounds as if you need to route your output to a source that you can record, unless I am misunderstanding the question.

Sorry about those links not working. Try this one. It will give you some alternatives.

https://alternativeto.net/software/soundflower/?platform=windows



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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Apr 08:31PM
What is the current Sibelius Playback Configuration? If you have playback configured to be sent to a MIDI destination, then you will not be able to record the playback, because the playback does not exist in audio form.

Please attach screen-shots of the following Sibelius dialogue windows:
1. Playback Devices;
2. Audio Engine Options.

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 13 Apr 10:51AM
> What is the current Sibelius Playback Configuration? If you have playback configured to be sent to a MIDI destination, then you will not be able to record the playback, because the playback does not exist in audio form.
>
> Please attach screen-shots of the following Sibelius dialogue windows:
> 1. Playback Devices;
> 2. Audio Engine Options.
>
I attached the two screen shots. As I wrote,the Windows system doesn't recognize the ASIO audio engine, it does recognize the MME but then there is a delay in sound because of the latency and also the recording with the screen cast software is distorted.

Do you have an idea on how to solve this besides installing an additional (virtual) audio cable app as Bob has suggested?

Many thanks,
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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 13 Apr 10:44AM (edited 13 Apr 10:44AM)
Thanks Bob! I'll try one of them to see if this solution works.

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Apr 09:17PM
There was no screen-shot of "Audio Engine Options"

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 14 Apr 09:22PM
> There was no screen-shot of "Audio Engine Options"
>
>Sorry, I was sure that I uploaded it..here it is:
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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Robin Walker - 14 Apr 10:53PM
You are sending audio to a third-party ASIO interface. There is absolutely no hope that a screen-cast application can pick up such audio. Try using the audio interface "Primary Sound Driver (DS)".

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Naama Eilon - 15 Apr 05:38PM
> You are sending audio to a third-party ASIO interface. There is absolutely no hope that a screen-cast application can pick up such audio. Try using the audio interface "Primary Sound Driver (DS)".

I've tried them all. The best is Microsoft Sound mapper - MME but the latency is 69.66 ms so there is a little delay in sound.

If I have no choice I will use it...just hoped that there is an easy way to connect the audio to the Windows sound system without latency. By now I had no success in connecting an audio virtual mixer to Sibelius.

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Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio?
Posted by Steve - 17 Apr 06:17AM
Maybe OBS can be configured to do what you need?

https://obsproject.com

I don't know how well it works on Windows or with Sibelius but it works great on Linux for capturing the screen as well as internal and external audio. It's an apples and oranges comparison but worth a shot if you don't find anything else to your liking.
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How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 10 Apr 08:20PM
     Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 10 Apr 10:29PM
         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 11 Apr 08:14AM
             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Cowboy Bob, 11 Apr 02:36PM
                 Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 11 Apr 03:01PM
                     Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Cowboy Bob, 11 Apr 08:26PM
                         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 11 Apr 08:31PM
                             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 13 Apr 10:51AM
                         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 13 Apr 10:44AM
                             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 13 Apr 09:17PM
                                 Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 14 Apr 09:22PM
                                     Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Robin Walker, 14 Apr 10:53PM
                                         Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Naama Eilon, 15 Apr 05:38PM
                                             Re: How do you screen-cast in Sibelius with audio? - Steve, 17 Apr 06:17AM