OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Bob Zawalich - 06 Sep 11:09PM (edited 06 Sep 11:09PM) Hide picture http://slippedisc.com/2017/09/death-of-a-prolific-british-composer-75/ I never met Derek in person, but he was a very active contributor to this forum, and I worked with him for many years as a Sibelius beta tester. He was a delightful man, and he produced an astonishing amount of music. He always asked interesting questions. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017. For plugin categories see http://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Laurence Payne - 06 Sep 11:51PM Hide picture Sad news. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Peter Roos - 07 Sep 12:25AM Hide picture Sad news ... I remember his frequent posts here indeed. -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Mike Lyons - 07 Sep 05:44AM Hide picture Another great one has left us. -- Win 10 Pro x64, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.6.1 NotePerformer, GPO4 & 5, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC, Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 07 Sep 08:20AM (edited 07 Sep 08:23AM) Hide picture I'm very sorry to hear this. Never have met him, but I just love playing the tuba part in his "Serenade". Irregular meter, but so easy and effective. Attachment serenade.JPG.jpg (174K) Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Chris Crawley - 07 Sep 10:36AM Hide picture Oh dear. Sad news indeed. -- Chris Crawley (composer and horn-player) using Dorico 1.1, Sibelius 7.1.3, NotePerformer 2.0.2, Windows 10 64-bit, Intel Core i7, 3.30GHz, 64GB RAM, DacMagic 100 Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 07 Sep 11:35AM Hide picture We exchanged a few e-mails, and he kindly commented on some of my music, and said that whenever passing I must pop in for a cup of tea. Well it wasn`t me that did the passing . . . . Rest peacefully Derek. He composed around 110 symphonies - is this a record I wonder? -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web:http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Chris Crawley - 07 Sep 12:44PM Hide picture "He composed around 110 symphonies - is this a record I wonder?" 116, apparently. Research tells me Johann Melchior Molter (1696–1765) wrote over 140 symphonies. -- Chris Crawley (composer and horn-player) using Dorico 1.1, Sibelius 7.1.3, NotePerformer 2.0.2, Windows 10 64-bit, Intel Core i7, 3.30GHz, 64GB RAM, DacMagic 100 Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 07 Sep 01:31PM Hide picture Thank you Chris. I`m the same age as Derek - I`ll start on my first . . . . . -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web:http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Robert Enns - 07 Sep 06:18PM Hide picture Tony, I think a nap first would be just the thing. -- Rob Win 10 64 bit, 3.1 GHz, 8 Gigs RAM Sibelius 7.5, and Sibelius 8.6.1, Sibelius Sounds 7.1.2, NotePerformer 2, GPO4, GPO5 Photoscore 8.0.4 Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by graham - 07 Sep 08:28PM Hide picture I regret I never met Derek in person but we met as many of us did via the beta testers 'sewing circle' through versions 3-7. We exchanged emails mostly about cricket and the weather which always seemed to be awful. I was so glad that he remarried and I believe happily. He was a great and valued contributor to the development of Sibelius and the world will def. be the poorer for his passing. RIP Graham Canbera Australia Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Marcos dos Santos - 08 Sep 05:20AM Hide picture I also remember Derek posting here in the forum. Sad news. RIP. -- Marcos Sibelius 8.4/Sibelius 7.5/Sibelius First 7.1.3 win 7 Ultimate SP1 64bits, Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 Desktop: i7(950) 3.06Ghz 8GB Ram, Laptop: i7 3630QM 2.4Ghz 16GB Ram Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 08 Sep 07:41AM Hide picture Posted by graham - 07 Sep 20:28 [Re: beta testing 3 thru' 7] We exchanged emails mostly about cricket and the weather which always seemed to be awful. ============================== So that's why sib became stumped and washed out after 7. Jes' kiddin' ;-) Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 08 Sep 07:47AM Hide picture Posted by Tony Wakefield - 07 Sep 13:31 I`ll start on my first [symphony] ======================================= I started my first some time ago, but I can't think of a good middle 8 for it. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 08 Sep 10:22AM Hide picture Robert - - ha ha ha - Haven`t told you have I - I was fibbing, I`m on my 81st! I won`t catch up tho`, my missus just incinerated the lot cos it`s cold & wet down here now. Adrian - - What`s this middle 8 belong to? F///|A7///|Dm///|Ebdim///|Am///|D7/D13b9/|(Dm7/G)/Gdim/|G11/G7/| -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web:http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 08 Sep 03:40PM (edited 08 Sep 03:49PM) Hide picture I give up, Tony. The only clue I have is that the tune is in C. Hmm. On second thoughts, that's not a certainty. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 08 Sep 04:24PM Hide picture Adrian, You`re right it`s key C but this may not be the original key, it`s what I play it in (or used to). But you must remember this . . . . -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web:http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Jim Williams - 08 Sep 05:41PM Hide picture Though he's not as well known in the USA, we brass players will miss his music as well. Adrian, when I lived in Lincolnshire, I would frequently visit the large sheet music store in York (can't recall the name) and send things home to my local ensemble. In the first batch of music was the Bourgeois SERENADE. It's been a staple of the Indianapolis Brass Choir ever since. I played a thing or two of yours as well, including Wee Cooper o' Fife. -- Jim Williams N9EJR Sib 7.5, 8, all Garritan Libraries NotePerformer, misc. other VSTs Win 8.1, core i7, 16 gB RAM Besson Prestige 2051 and Yamaha 321 Euphoniums Yamaha 621 Baritone, Blue pBone Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Laurence Payne - 08 Sep 05:42PM Hide picture Would that G11 be a G7sus4 or an F/G? Play it again - I'll probably get it after a bit of time... Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 08 Sep 05:59PM (edited 08 Sep 06:02PM) Hide picture I`m not too bothered how you describe it Laurence, they`ve all got pretty much a similar sound. And I`ll play it again . . . . -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web: http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Laurence Payne - 08 Sep 11:34PM Hide picture It's my pet hate. G11 used for any one of several chords, none of which are a canonical G11. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Ian Schofield - 09 Sep 12:14AM Hide picture Banks of York probably. It's now a Musicroom store - a shadow of its former self Ian Schofield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 09 Sep 07:08AM (edited 09 Sep 07:11AM) Hide picture Posted by Laurence Payne - 08 Sep 23:34 It's my pet hate. G11 used for any one of several chords, none of which are a canonical G11. ======================================= I interpret G11 as being all the chord tones (odd numbered intervals) up to and including 11 but omitting the 3rd. In other words a G9 with suspended 4th, or Dm7/G. I find it useful in a crowded score to write G11, and believe that it is more clear to the bass player than is Dm7/G in quickly recognizing the root. PS. What does "canonical" mean? Google describes it as "proper to the Roman church". What's that got to do with Tin Pan Alley? ;-) Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Laurence Payne - 09 Sep 11:55AM Hide picture This useage of 'canon'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(fiction) It breaks the 'pile of thirds' system of extended dominant 7ths. (Whereas G(#11) doesn't.) A mess. Let's call it F/G, Dm7/G, G7sus or G9sus - depending on whether we want D and/or G in the upper structure. But then, a chord symbol is just a chord symbol... Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Steven Edis - 09 Sep 07:10AM Hide picture Nuff hints now, Tony. It's never out of date. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 09 Sep 08:23AM (edited 09 Sep 08:52AM) Hide picture OK, Tony, put me out of my misery. This is the only thing your changes remind me of (with apologies to Slippery Meadows). Not quite the same chords, but close. Attachment untitled.sib (110K) Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 09 Sep 08:42AM Hide picture Posted by Ian Schofield - 09 Sep 00:14 Banks of York probably. It's now a Musicroom store - a shadow of its former self ================================== They used to buy some of my brass band charts. So did Band Supplies in Leeds. Wondered why they both went quiet. Maybe my works put them both out of business. Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 09 Sep 07:21PM (edited 09 Sep 07:33PM) Hide picture Not a bad effort Adrian, but your melody is not a middle 8. This thread is really to remember Derek, but I`m sure he wouldn`t mind this little humorous deviation. I once put his name forward for `Composer of the week` (Radio 3) but it fell on stony ground, as pretty nearly everything does. -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web: http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Attachment Middle 8.sib (31K) Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Adrian Drover - 10 Sep 08:12AM Hide picture Posted by Tony Wakefield - 09 Sep 19:21 (edited 09 Sep 19:33) Not a bad effort Adrian, but your melody is not a middle 8. ================================== No, Tony, but it fits (almost) ;-) Jus' like Just in Time/Who's Sorry Now. Or Making Whoopie/Glory of Love. Attachment untitled (7).sib (95K) Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Tony Wakefield - 10 Sep 10:40AM Hide picture Who`s Sorry Now doesn`t have a `middle` 8 Adrian - it`s a 16 bar melody repeated, with a varied end. Similar, yes, but not strictly a middle 8. 10/10 for your research tho` :) [I say come back our Gracie!] Wasn`t entertainment strange in those days - George Formby, Norman Wisdom etc. Derek Bourgeois was a school boy, and probably had written his first symphony. -- Sibelius 6/7/8. Win7. Note Performer, with various other no longer in use programs & audio. Web: http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/tonywakefield Back to top | All threads

Re: OT: RIP Derek Bourgeois Posted by Jim Williams - 11 Sep 05:32PM (edited 11 Sep 05:41PM) Hide picture > Banks of York probably. It's now a Musicroom store - a shadow of its former self > > Ian Schofield YES, Ian...Banks it was. A veritable playground back then--1988/89 when I was in Lincs. It's probably a casualty of online outlets. Not that I have any objection to online outlets, but there was just SOMETHING about that tactile act of picking up a set of parts, looking at the euphonium part, then deciding whether or not to buy the piece, since the quality of the euphonium part is the SOLE criterion by which a band should evaluate what pieces to buy...and Derek Bourgeois wrote some great ones! The other nice part of the Banks experience for me was chatting with the clerks and other shoppers and learning from them. I went at least once every two weeks. -- Jim Williams N9EJR Sib 7.5, 8, all Garritan Libraries NotePerformer, misc. other VSTs Win 8.1, core i7, 16 gB RAM Besson Prestige 2051 and Yamaha 321 Euphoniums Yamaha 621 Baritone, Blue pBone Back to top | All threads