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Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 04:15AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Mike Lyons, 17 Aug 05:53AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 07:26AM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 17 Aug 08:53AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 10:52AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 17 Aug 12:54PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 01:12PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 17 Aug 01:30PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 01:44PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Mike Lyons, 17 Aug 03:30PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 18 Aug 01:06AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 18 Aug 10:12AM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 18 Aug 10:48AM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Mike Lyons, 19 Aug 06:40AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Chris Crawley, 19 Aug 08:20AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 24 Aug 01:10AM

Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 17 Aug 04:15AM
Attempting to open a Sibelius file today I was met by an error message to the effect that the file qtxmlpatterns4.dll is not meant to run on Windows, is faulty, etc. Inspection showed that the file is in fact empty. This has happened literally from one day to the next and is pretty disconcerting.

I clearly need to either reinstall Sibelius 7.1.3 from scratch or somehow repair my installation. Can someone advise me how to do this? My original media contain the original Sibelius 7, and years ago I upgraded to 7.1.3 by downloading an updater. I still have files Sibelius713b77.exe and Sibelius713b77Update.exe but don’t remember which one I used — if indeed they are usable at all in this situation.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Mike Lyons - 17 Aug 05:53AM (edited 17 Aug 06:19AM)
Can I direct you to this link:
http://www.microsoftfixit.net/qtxmlpatterns4-dll/

It seems it may not be your Sibelius that needs fixing, but your computer.

Have you scanned for viruses and malware recently?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 17 Aug 07:26AM
Thanks Mike. My computer is well defended and I have seen no other oddities, but I’ll run an extra scan. The file’s timestamp showed that the zero length file was substituted at the moment I attempted to run Sibelius.

I ran the 7.1.3 installer again. There seemed to be no repair option, but it reinstalled Sibelius and preserved my settings.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Robin Walker - 17 Aug 08:53AM
You are the second person I have come across this week who has reported a DLL file becoming zero length (other case on different forum, different application)

The prime suspects are:
(a) malware undetected by whatever malware protection you have;
(b) hardware about to fail: e.g. RAM or hard disk.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 17 Aug 10:52AM
Thanks Robin. I’m running a Windows Defender scan right now. I’ll see if it finds anything.

After reinstalling Sibelius 7.1.3 I ran it successfully (two instances, in fact) once. Then when I attempted to run it again the same thing happened, but this time three .dll files are missing (zero length): qtxmlpatterns4.dll (as before), and also qtnetwork4.dll and qtscript4.dll. I understand these are all parts of Visual C++. The timestamps on the zero files matched the time when I attempted to launch Sibelius.

As a matter of interest, what was the other application that showed this problem? I’ve just seen some reports of LibreOffice 5.4 having .dll trouble, though it runs fine for me.

I hope my hardware isn’t about to fail — my system is new as of last April!

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Robin Walker - 17 Aug 12:54PM
> Then when I attempted to run it again the same thing happened, but this time three .dll files are missing (zero length)
> The timestamps on the zero files matched the time when I attempted to launch Sibelius.

This is curious: the fact that the problem recurs suggests that something systematic is going on.

Do you by any chance have the Microsoft add-on called "EMET" installed? If so, please uninstall it.

Could you confirm the Version number of Windows 10 that you are running? It should be a 4-digit number, such as "1703".

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 17 Aug 01:12PM (edited 17 Aug 01:13PM)
I have Windows 10 Pro, Version 1607, 64-bit, OS Build 14393.1593.

I have not heard of EMET and certainly haven’t installed it. Search Windows knows nothing about it.

Thanks for your help.

Edit: the Windows Defender scan found nothing amiss.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Robin Walker - 17 Aug 01:30PM
On what date did the affected PC install the August 2017 Windows Update?

Has Windows been restarted since the August 2017 Windows Update was installed?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 17 Aug 01:44PM (edited 17 Aug 02:47PM)
I think it was Wed. 9th August. (Patch Tuesday is generally Patch Wednesday in Australia.) I know it updated, but I can’t check the date because my update history was wiped, which appears to be a known thing: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3214488/microsoft-windows/windows-10-1607-cumulative-update-kb-4034658-wipes-out-update-history.html

My Windows is restarted every morning, so yes, it has been restarted several times since then.

Edit: Another search (‘installed updates’) reveals that it was indeed 9 August. These updates were installed: KB4034658, KB4035631, and Security Update for Adobe Flash Player.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Mike Lyons - 17 Aug 03:30PM
I'm not sure relying on Windows defender is a good idea in these days of malware and ransomware attacks. I would recommend getting something like Malwarebytes specifically to check for hidden threats. It is generally very well behaved and doesn't have a huge dragging effect on your speed.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 18 Aug 01:06AM
Thanks Mike. I do also run Macafee, which came with the machine and which I thought I would keep until the year’s free trial runs out.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Robin Walker - 18 Aug 10:12AM (edited 18 Aug 10:12AM)
Hmmmm. I wonder if it was McAfee that actually caused the DLL files to be reduced to zero length?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 18 Aug 10:48AM (edited 18 Aug 10:58AM)
McAfee does not report having detected or deleted anything yesterday.
It has only quarantined two items since I have been using this computer, both suspect email attachments.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Mike Lyons - 19 Aug 06:40AM
I thought I had replied to the effect that Mcaffee caused all sorts of issues and that I now use AVG. I also recommended Malwarebytes but my post seems to have disappeared.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Chris Crawley - 19 Aug 08:20AM
It's still there, at 17 Aug 15:30.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today
Posted by Kim Bastin - 24 Aug 01:10AM
Whatever fit it was that took my Sibelius, requiring two reinstallations in two days, it now seems to have passed (touch wood!). Thanks to the people who tried to help.

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Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 04:15AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Mike Lyons, 17 Aug 05:53AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 07:26AM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 17 Aug 08:53AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 10:52AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 17 Aug 12:54PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 01:12PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 17 Aug 01:30PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 17 Aug 01:44PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Mike Lyons, 17 Aug 03:30PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 18 Aug 01:06AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Robin Walker, 18 Aug 10:12AM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 18 Aug 10:48AM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Mike Lyons, 19 Aug 06:40AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Chris Crawley, 19 Aug 08:20AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Worked yesterday, not today - Kim Bastin, 24 Aug 01:10AM