Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 01 Jun 04:13PM Hide picture Hi All, I'm pleased to announce the immediate availability of Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6. This introduces Magnetic Glissandi lines, and fixes a whole host of bugs, whilst improving Sibelius' overall stability. You can read more about the features in my blog post. To gain access to the upgrade, run Application Manager on your computer and go to the Apps tab. Alternatively, you can find the installer in your Avid Account. Hope you enjoy the features and improvements in Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6. Sam and the Sibelius team -- Sam Butler | Product Manager | Sibelius sam.butler@avid.com | @avid_sam | @AvidSibelius Contact the Sibelius support team: www.sibelius.com/documents/contact_form.html KB and other resources: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Philip R - 01 Jun 04:31PM Hide picture Congratulations on the release of 8.6! We have an extensive post on the Scoring Notes blog: http://www.scoringnotes.com/news/sibelius-8-6-released-magnetic-glissandi-lines/ -- Sibelius 8.6.0, Mac 10.12.5 Mac Pro (Late 2013) 32 GB RAM http://www.nycmusicservices.com/ http://www.sibeliusblog.com/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Chris Crawley - 01 Jun 04:36PM (edited 01 Jun 04:39PM) Hide picture To save you looking it up! From Scoring Notes (Philip Rothman): New Feature: Magnetic Glissandi Other Improvements: - Better support for small staves from MusicXML files - Sibelius now imports page margin values correctly. Before, margins from odd pages were applied onto even pages, and vice versa - Ties are now no longer missing in chords over barlines - The direction of ties is respected (over or under) - Avid says that Sibelius startup is improved by more than 10% - The bug ... where the position of rests in parts with multiple voices was not retained upon opening files created in earlier versions, has been fixed. - A long-standing bug where Sibelius crashed when invoking Paste as Cue followed by Undo has been fixed. - Auto-saving works more reliably - When sliding notes from one page to the next, your selection is now followed so it’s clearer to see what’s happening - Annotating when the Inspector is open is smoother (this had regressed when the new Inspector was introduced in 8.5) - The Inspector now resizes vertically when undocked, and the tab sequence is corrected (these had also regressed when the new Inspector was introduced in 8.5) - Improvements to the licensing engine, which should result in fewer error messages - A rare crash on Windows involving Sibelius and Pro Tools has been fixed - The overall handling of audio devices on Windows is improved, whereby Sibelius initializes the audio engine even if minor errors come from the audio device driver - On Mac, characters created with Shift-Option- shortcuts are no longer doubled (a bug introduced in 8.5) - On Mac, when editing text in the score, in File > Info, or in dialog boxes, Shift-Option-Left/Right Arrow no longer deletes text (a behavior introduced in 8.5 and symptoms of a bug in the Sierra OS) - On Mac, Sibelius will no longer hang when attempting to play back to a disconnected audio device - MP3 export works again on Mac OS 10.9 (Mavericks) - Avid’s Application Manager has been updated to 17.5 and allows you to open Sibelius directly from the app, along with a few fixes What do people think? Are you tempted to renew your subscription? -- Chris Crawley (composer and horn-player) using Dorico 1.0.30, Sibelius 7.1.3, NotePerformer, Windows 10 64-bit, Intel Core i7 3.30GHz, 64GB RAM, DacMagic 100 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Peter Roos - 01 Jun 05:17PM Hide picture Nice, congratulations Sam and team! I read Philip's blog (which he co-wrote with Bob Zawalich, by the way), those are nice improvements. Downloading now ... -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Bob Zawalich - 01 Jun 05:19PM Hide picture Magnetic glisses really are a big deal. You should give them a try. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017. For plugin categories see http://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by LeoP - 01 Jun 05:24PM Hide picture Downloaded, installed and tried... Great feature. Startup is also quite quick. Congrats to the update -- Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.5.1, 8.6, Photoscore Ultimate 7 and 8, Acrobat Pro... Win 10 Pro 64 bit, 16GB RAM Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Mark K Sealey - 01 Jun 07:01PM Hide picture Same here. Had to update the App Manager before 8.6 showed as available. Whole process took <10 mins. Smooth and without probs. Thanks, Sam! > Downloaded, installed and tried... Great feature. Startup is also quite quick. Congrats to the update -- Mark Sealey iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014); 4 GHz Intel Core i7; 32 GB Ram; 10.12.5; 8.5 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Rob Tuley - 01 Jun 05:23PM Hide picture > Auto-saving works more reliably How many times have we heard that one before? 10? 100? 1000? "More reliably" means nothing anyway. If it lets you down 98 times out of 100, that's still "more reliable" than 99 times out of 100. > What do people think? Are you tempted to renew your subscription? This is a joke, right? -- Rob Sib 4.1, Windows 10. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Laurence Payne - 01 Jun 06:14PM Hide picture Most of the problems with auto-saving come from a misunderstanding of what the two separate systems are MEANT to do. http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/sibelius.html#v Has the repeat barline/key signature issue been fixed? I see some evidence that it may have been. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Bob Zawalich - 01 Jun 06:42PM Hide picture > Has the repeat barline/key signature issue been fixed? I see some evidence that it may have been. Yes - I was told that "There's now better spacing between a key signature and start repeat barline when there is no time signature" I have not personally tested it though. My understanding is that with this fix and the fix for rest positioning, the reported bugs added by 8.x updates have been fixed. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017. For plugin categories see http://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Mike Lyons - 01 Jun 09:25PM Hide picture ...but there were many more bugs than just those, right? -- Win 10 Pro x64, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.5 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO4 & 5, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC, Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Rob Tuley - 01 Jun 10:19PM (edited 01 Jun 10:26PM) Hide picture I just take things at face value. If Philip Rothman's blog spends half the space praising Magnetic Glissandos to the skies, I assume that single thing is half of what you are going to get in this version. If there was something more exciting to write about, I guess he would have written about it. And according to the Chris Crawley's summary, several of the bug fixes are for bugs introduced in 8.5 - so their REAL added value is precisely zilch. And nobody knows how many NEW bugs you will get, of course. It might just be a coincidence that 9 months ago, somebody who has posted in this thread asked me about magnetic glissandos in another program we are not allowed to talk about here. I've no idea whether it has actually taken the clever software developers at AVID 9 months to implement that one feature in Sibelius, though. -- Rob Sib 4.1, Windows 10. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Laurence Payne - 01 Jun 10:51PM Hide picture Well, yes. Wonderful though Magnetic Gliss Lines doubtless are, I did wonder a bit after the 6th screens-worth of eulogy if that was ALL there was. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by David - 01 Jun 11:12PM Hide picture $300 for glissando magnets. What a bargain ! -- 8.5, Windows 10 Avid treats its customers poorly, it's a terrible company. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Philip R - 01 Jun 11:55PM Hide picture Bob Z. and I worked hard on the blog post. We tried to be thorough. There are many elements to the new feature and we tried to cover all the angles. If the gliss. feature were easy to implement in Sibelius it would have surely been done long ago. So it is rather significant. "Praising to the skies" is an interesting take. The post reads mostly factual to me, though I do offer the recommendation of 8.6 as a worthy update. You are welcome to judge for yourself. I understand the frustration with Avid and the update frequency/content and mentioned it in the post. -- Sibelius 8.6.0, Mac 10.12.5 Mac Pro (Late 2013) 32 GB RAM http://www.nycmusicservices.com/ http://www.sibeliusblog.com/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Peter Roos - 02 Jun 01:54AM (edited 02 Jun 01:58AM) Hide picture Thanks again Sam and team! I installed it and it works really well. One quick question though: how do I create an arpeggio across two staffs? See attached picture and sib file, I am trying to create an arpeggio from the bass clef going up to the treble clef in harp. When I enter the glissando, it works fine on the same staff, but not so well when crossing staffs. ps and by the way, happy birthday to Sam ... hopefully with the release of Sibelius 8.6 is a much happier birthday for you, than my birthday last Friday (when someone smashed into my car and wrecked it). -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Attachments Sib 8.6 arpeggios test.sib (38K), Capture4.PNG.png (45K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Bob Zawalich - 02 Jun 04:53AM Hide picture > One quick question though: how do I create an arpeggio across two staffs? See attached picture and sib file, I am trying to create an arpeggio from the bass clef going up to the treble clef in harp. When I enter the glissando, it works fine on the same staff, but not so well when crossing staffs. *********************** You mean glissandos, not arpeggios, right? Magnetic glisses are slides, and slides. like lines are only defined on one staff. Playback of gliss lines across staves has never worked. Phillip, in his blog post, mentions a workaround using cross staff notes, and I discussed it here in a bit more detail. http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=714024&groupid=3& It is the only way besides MIDI messages clouds I have ever seen to do this. For actual arpeggios there is no way I know of other than the Harp Arpeggio plugin, which messes with starting times in Live Playback to adjust when all the notes on both staves start playing. Glisses have the advantage of their notes starting at different times. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Bob Zawalich - 02 Jun 01:59AM Hide picture As far as I know, Magnetic Glisses are the only new feature in Sib 8.6, other than some support things like improvements to MusicXML handling. This seems to be the model they are following these days, providing one significant feature per release. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017. For plugin categories see http://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Ingvar Karkoff - 02 Jun 06:08AM Hide picture This is a long-awaited function in the program, will save many minutes. A great update -- Sibelius 8.6, 7.5, 7.1.3 and Sibelius 6.2 Mac Pro 2x2.26 8 Core Intel 12 GB Ram OS X 10.9.5 SSD 60 GB Macbook Pro I5 8 GB Ram OS X 10.11.5 Photoscore Ultimate 8.04, Sibelius Gold, GPO, Garritan Concert & Marching Band 2, Symphonic Instrument, Motu 828 mkII, Digital Performer 9.02 , Finale 2014.5 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by David - 02 Jun 04:41AM Hide picture . I understand the frustration with Avid and the update frequency/content and mentioned it in the post. > > -- Philip, it's not frustration, it's fraud. Avid committed fraud. They lied, in writing, over and over, and it's been brought to their attention many times. They have never addressed it, certainly never fixed it or done anything close to the right thing. They have had many chances, they have a chance right now. Sam, are you willing to address the situation, here and now? You owe it to your longtime customers, you owe us an explanation. It's so far beyond "frustration" that it's silly. And now, Avid wants me to pay $300 bucks for magnetic glissandi? I'm not making that up! That's how they treat longtime customers! Again, that's not "frustration", it's incredulous. It's $300 for magnetic gliss and bug fixes that should be free to every single customer. That's what Avid thinks of their customers. And if somehow I've got that wrong, Sam or anyone from Sibelius can answer me in this thread. But I don't have it wrong. There's no way to describe any of that as "frustration", it just doesn't fit. I wrote the CEO of Avid. He didn't have the decency to respond. Once again, that can't be described as "frustration", the guy couldn't give a rat's ass about the customer. And again... If I'm wrong, he can respond to this thread. And of course we know that nobody will. Philip, I appreciate that you at least tried to address it to an extent in your excellent review. Avid has an opportunity here: they can have some guts and ethics and address the situation, now, and at least salvage what little reputation they have left. Or, they can continue to be bashed in other media and rightfully so, they've earned it like no other software company. As we'll see, they will do nothing, won't have the guts to address their lies, and then we can hopefully all agree that "frustration" is not what Avid dishes out. It's far worse. -- 8.5, Windows 10 Avid treats its customers poorly, it's a terrible company. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Mike Lyons - 02 Jun 08:01AM Hide picture As someone who writes for brass bands and small brass ensembles I have only very rarely had a call to use glissandi. They are a special effect that is extremely rare in the kind of music I am interested in. I have read the "What's New" pdf and find that there is no mention of what bugs have been corrected in this latest version. While I am sure pianists, harpists and guitarists are salivating over this new feature, I can't say my blood is pounding in my veins because of it. Where is the list of bugs that this release corrects? I fin myself, sadly, underwhelmed. -- Win 10 Pro x64, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.5 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO4 & 5, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC, Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Peter Roos - 02 Jun 01:23PM Hide picture Thanks Bob -- yes, I meant glissandos, not arpeggios, my bad. I'll take another look at the blog post. Thanks for the write up and all the hard work. -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by James - 02 Jun 04:34PM Hide picture I find myself strangely attracted to magnetic glissandi. And I'm not just using a line. -- Mac OS 10.12 Sierra Sibelius 6.2 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Mike Lyons - 02 Jun 08:19PM Hide picture ^ +1 Made me smile! -- Win 10 Pro x64, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.5 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO4 & 5, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC, Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Dave P-B - 02 Jun 10:51PM Hide picture > > Has the repeat barline/key signature issue been fixed? I see some evidence that it may have been. It appears to have been resolved, also when using Inkpen 2, for which I'm grateful. Cheers, Dave Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Laurence Payne - 02 Jun 11:12PM Hide picture > > > Has the repeat barline/key signature issue been fixed? I see some evidence that it may have been. > > It appears to have been resolved, also when using Inkpen 2, for which I'm grateful. > > Cheers, > Dave It would have been worth mentioning in the release notes. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Kai Struck - 06 Jun 05:21PM (edited 06 Jun 05:32PM) Hide picture Now that glissando lines are the main topic I still wonder how can I change the font size of the text "gliss." in Sibelius 7.1.3 and 8.6? Edit: ah, ok in the "edit line" dialog I can choose the text style. The default is "Expression" so I can create a custom "gliss"-Textstyle and change that. -- Windows7 Pro, Lubuntu 15.10, Sibelius 7.1.3, LibreOffice 4.4.7, OpenOffice 4.1.2 Free Project: LibreOffice Songbook Architect (LOSA) http://struckkai.blogspot.de/2015/04/libreofficesongbookarchitect.html SVG-Tools: http://struckkai.blogspot.com/2016/02/svg-tools.html Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by ADRIANA - 19 Jun 05:44PM Hide picture hi, I want to activate sib 8,6 in a second computer with window 10. In the first computer only I have sib 8.5, but I want to activate the sib 8.6 in the other computer, but after to fill the IDs, the clik to "activate", doesn´t work, and only permitye to use the sofware for 30 days...What I must to do?..They told me I can have sibelius in 2 computers, only I am putting sibelius 8.6 in the new one, meanwhile the old computer aonly has sib 8.5...I don´t undestand... Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 19 Jun 05:48PM Hide picture Hi Adriana, I've checked your license and it all seems well. Better contact the support team and they'll help you out: http://avid.force.com/Support/RegistrationCaseCreation Sam -- Sam Butler | Product Manager | Sibelius sam.butler@avid.com | @avid_sam | @AvidSibelius Contact the Sibelius support team: www.sibelius.com/documents/contact_form.html KB and other resources: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius and Sibelius First 8.6 are now available Posted by MadMusicologist - 16 Jul 09:09PM (edited 18 Jul 04:43PM) Hide picture After all I read here so far I dare ask if it is worth spending the money to purchase Sib. 8.6 at all. And I am along with David saying that AVID is at least deliberately unclear in the offers to customers. Today I spent EUR 166.01 for "Sibelius Upgrades and Trade-ups -- Sibelius Upgrade inc. 1 year of upgrades -- Standard-Support für Sibelius" and received some SKU numbers by email without knowing that to do with them. I had expected to be eligible to an upgrade to Sib. 8.6, but apparently that is not the case. What the heck did I spend that money for??? I work with Sib. 7.5 + SibSounds 7.0. By the way, when I tried to use the contact form (sales fulfillment), I could fill all the required fields, and after clicking "create case" I got the error message "please select product". However, I did not find any field to place the product name in. Something is going very wrong there. And why is it that I can't ask for email notification in case someone answers to my question? That's a bad site, I think. Still I have to try to have the mess cleared I got into. :-( One day later): Still no answer. apparently this is a dead site no one takes serious anymore. Frustrating. I cannot recomment AVIDs customer care. Back to top | All threads