'Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing'

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Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing - Pieter Corten, 25 Apr 04:30PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Robin Walker, 25 Apr 04:36PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - LeoP, 25 Apr 04:37PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Mike Lyons, 25 Apr 09:44PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Patrick O'Keefe, 27 Apr 04:24PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - LeoP, 27 Apr 07:15PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Apr 05:03PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Mike Lyons, 28 Apr 05:52PM

Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by Pieter Corten - 25 Apr 04:30PM
Hello

I'm facing a problem with the barnumbers in a score with two sections. In the first section the bars numbers are fine, in the second section the bar numbers just disappear. I would share the file but it is not to be put online for everyone to see. Could you please give me your email so I can send it to you personally?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by Robin Walker - 25 Apr 04:36PM
If bar numbers disappear, then that is a warning that the repeat structure of the score is incorrect, and those bars without numbers will never be reached during playback.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by LeoP - 25 Apr 04:37PM
if you have repeat signs in the second section or the first or second repetition lines, it could cause the bar number to disappear. If you have the end repeat barline at the end of the first section, but no start repeat barline it could as well cause the bar nubmers to disappear....

If you click on any forum name, you can see the email adress, if the person wishes to receive any post from this forum. If you still cannot solve the problem, feel free to send me an email.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by Mike Lyons - 25 Apr 09:44PM
You can email anyone by clicking their name on a post.

Robin is correct, though, this is a sign of a broken repeat structure.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 27 Apr 04:24PM
While Robin's, Leo's, and Mike's comments are absolutely correct and probably apply, I've found another situation that can cause bar numbers to disappear. If you are referring to the "invisible" bar numbers on each staff then an incorrect repeat structure is almost certainly the case. However, if you are referring to printed bar numbers, sometimes ossia staves can cause problems.

In the attached score for flute and piano where the printable bar numbers appear on some systems and are absent on others - in a seemly random pattern as near as I can tell. Delete the flute ossia staff and all printable bar numbers appear as expected.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by LeoP - 27 Apr 07:15PM (edited 27 Apr 07:17PM)
Patrick, if you go to Ribbon - View - Staff Rulers, you will see that you have the Flute-A staff above ohter staves. When you make a double click on the invisible staff so that the whole line is marked blue and afterwards press Crtl + Shift + H, it will be hidden and the bar numbers appear again but for the bar number 46, which I would fake with a text object.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 28 Apr 05:03PM
I was just commenting that there are more things than invalid repeats that can cause bar numbers to disappear. In my case I could do without the ossia staff so I deleted it.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing
Posted by Mike Lyons - 28 Apr 05:52PM
Yes, Patrick, there are more things that cause this,but faulty repeat structures are probably the most likely and most common.

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Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disappearing - Pieter Corten, 25 Apr 04:30PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Robin Walker, 25 Apr 04:36PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - LeoP, 25 Apr 04:37PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Mike Lyons, 25 Apr 09:44PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Patrick O'Keefe, 27 Apr 04:24PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - LeoP, 27 Apr 07:15PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Apr 05:03PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Bar numbers misteriously disapp... - Mike Lyons, 28 Apr 05:52PM