'My 8.5 is so sluggish'

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My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 12 Jan 04:05PM
     Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Jeff Hale, 12 Jan 07:03PM
         Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 13 Jan 09:10AM
             Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 14 Jan 09:03AM
                 Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 11:56AM
                     Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 14 Jan 12:37PM
                         Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 12:55PM
                             Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 14 Jan 06:16PM
                                 Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 06:56PM
                                     Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 15 Jan 09:25AM

My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Adrian Drover - 12 Jan 04:05PM (edited 12 Jan 04:07PM)
I'm working on a score which is by no means big, just 184 measures of 3/4 time for big band (19 staves), size 385 KB. Selecting or deleting an object takes up to a second to respond, and using plug-ins such as 'Exchange staff contents' or 'Add rehearsal double barline' takes up to a massive 8 or 9 seconds to respond with shortcut keys.

Thinking the problem might be other than Sib's doing, I have exported the score to load into my reserve 7.1.3 and everything is working instantly as it should.

Is anyone else having such problems with 8.5?
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Jeff Hale - 12 Jan 07:03PM
Most of my issues have been with Avid Application Manager. Try turning it off and restarting.

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windows 7 and 10 Professional, Sibelius 7.1.3 and 8.5
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Adrian Drover - 13 Jan 09:10AM
Too technical for me to dabble with, Mike. I will need help with that. What is an application manager anyway, and where is it? 7.1.3 seemed able to manage itself.
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Adrian Drover - 14 Jan 09:03AM (edited 14 Jan 09:06AM)
I've had to downgrade the score file that I'm working on from 8.5 back to 7.1.3 in order to finish my project in time. And what a pleasure it is to be working on 7.1.3 again. So free and easy. In comparison 8.5 feels like trying to run a 100 yards dash while towing a ball and chain.

So can someone please tell me if the application manager is affecting the performance of my 8.5, and if so, can 8.5 be run w'out the interference of an application manager, and if so, how do I lose it?
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Robin Walker - 14 Jan 11:56AM
If it were Avid Application Manager making the computer sluggish, then it would have affected 7.1.3 as well. So, I do not think that Avid Application Manager is at fault here.

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Sibelius 8.4/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 8.0.4, Dolet 6.6 for Sibelius, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop no-name, Microsoft Surface Book.
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Adrian Drover - 14 Jan 12:37PM (edited 14 Jan 12:55PM)
Ah, OK, thanx, Robin. So I need to find what else might be slowing 8.5 down to snail's pace for editing. I can only think now that it might be content. Has anyone had a problem using performance staff text, ie. "swing"/"straight"? Just a guess, as I've not used it previously.

PS. Nope, forget that. I'm getting the same dreadful slowness with third party scores in 8.5.
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Robin Walker - 14 Jan 12:55PM
Adrian, you mentioned that exporting the score into Sibelius 7 format made it editable non-sluggishly in Sibelius 7.1.3. Have you tried opening the Sibelius 7 format version of the score in 8.5? Then see whether that version is sluggish or not-sluggish in 8.5?

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Sibelius 8.4/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 8.0.4, Dolet 6.6 for Sibelius, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop no-name, Microsoft Surface Book.
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Adrian Drover - 14 Jan 06:16PM
Just tried it, Robin. In 7.1.3, selection of objects and the Exchange staff contents plugin are instant. In 8.5 there is a slight delay in object selection and a massive 6 seconds delay for the same plugin to act.
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Laurence Payne - 14 Jan 06:56PM
May we see the sib file?
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Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish
Posted by Adrian Drover - 15 Jan 09:25AM
For obvious reasons, I don't want to make my completed score available for general inspection, but I'm getting the same results with Nikolaj's score in his "Brushes" thread. When I download this into 8.5 I get the same sluggishness as with my own score. When I downgrade either mine or Nikolaj's score to load into 7.0, editing speed is back to normal. This is most noticeable with plugins which take up to 8 seconds to react in my 8.5. So, I don't think the fault is with the score, but some incompatibility with the program itself.
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My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 12 Jan 04:05PM
     Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Jeff Hale, 12 Jan 07:03PM
         Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 13 Jan 09:10AM
             Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 14 Jan 09:03AM
                 Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 11:56AM
                     Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 14 Jan 12:37PM
                         Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 12:55PM
                             Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 14 Jan 06:16PM
                                 Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 06:56PM
                                     Re: My 8.5 is so sluggish - Adrian Drover, 15 Jan 09:25AM