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Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 07 Jan 04:10PM
     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 07 Jan 05:17PM
         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Mike Lyons, 08 Jan 10:00AM
             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 10 Jan 03:36PM
             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 10 Jan 03:42PM
                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 10 Jan 03:49PM
                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 11 Jan 02:39PM
                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 11 Jan 02:49PM
                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Mike Lyons, 11 Jan 02:59PM
                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 11 Jan 04:23PM
                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 11 Jan 04:32PM
                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 11 Jan 04:56PM
                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 11 Jan 05:02PM
                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 12 Jan 12:18AM
                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 12 Jan 12:30AM
                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Mike Lyons, 12 Jan 06:26AM
                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 12 Jan 08:56AM
                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 12 Jan 10:52PM
                                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 12 Jan 11:24PM
                                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 13 Jan 03:41PM
                                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 13 Jan 03:56PM
                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Laurence Payne, 13 Jan 04:02PM
                                                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 13 Jan 05:00PM
                                                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Laurence Payne, 13 Jan 06:03PM
                                                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 14 Jan 04:53PM
                                                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 05:35PM
                                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 07:00PM
                                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 14 Jan 07:57PM
                                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 14 Jan 08:01PM
                                                                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 08:36PM

Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 07 Jan 04:10PM
When I try to hear an existing big band score, a message appears saying Loading Sounds every time, this has never happened before. The default sound setting on the dropdown menu is Sibelius 7 Sounds. When I press play I can only hear the piano track.

I am unable to use the software in its present state as I need to hear all the parts I have written music for. It was working fine until just before Christmas.
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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 07 Jan 05:17PM
Please attach screen-shots of the following Sibelius dialogue windows:
1. Playback Devices;
2. Audio Engine Options.

It might also be necessary for you to attach the Sibelius score file which does not play back correctly.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Mike Lyons - 08 Jan 10:00AM
If you have a blue box selection made when you start playback, only that track will play.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 10 Jan 03:36PM
Thanks for your prompt reply to the sound issue on Sibelius. I have attached the relevant sections relating to your reply. Sorry it is not a proper screen shot but I hope the photo is legible and contains all the necessary info.
S J D

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 10 Jan 03:42PM
Thanks for this suggestion. Do you mean the highlight blue box when you want to select a particular passage on a voice? If so, the piano is still the only sound I can hear on playback.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 10 Jan 03:49PM
There were no attachments. Photographs will be too large to attach on this forum: please use the screen-shot feature of your operating system. The maximum size of file that can be attached is 1 Megabyte. Screen-shots should be attached in .png format, as JPEGs will sometimes by rejected by the forum software.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 11 Jan 02:39PM
Have done the two screen shots as requested, they are in a screen shots folder within my pictures folder. I don't know how to attach them to the reply! Please advise - thanks!

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Jan 02:49PM
See the "Browse" button immediately under the reply box.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Mike Lyons - 11 Jan 02:59PM
You will have to attach them separately: Make your post with one image attached and then click on |Edit| under your reply and use the browse button again to attach the second.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 11 Jan 04:23PM


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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Jan 04:32PM
Have you actually installed the full Sibelius 7 Sounds sample library (an enormous 23GB download)?

In Windows Explorer, please navigate to the following folder:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Avid\Sibelius Sounds\

In that folder, right-click on the sub-folder "Sibelius 7 Sounds" and select "Properties", then attach here a screen-shot of the Properties panel (just the panel window, not the whole screen: use the Windows "Snipping Tool" to take the screen-shot) showing the size of the sample library installation.

A remarkable feature of your first screen-shot is that it shows that no MIDI player has been found on Windows: does this mean that you are running the cut-down "N" version of Windows 10?

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 11 Jan 04:56PM
thanks for your help once again! am learning a lot here!

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Jan 05:02PM (edited 11 Jan 05:09PM)
It is absolutely clear that the full Sibelius 7 Sounds sample library has never been installed: that folder should contain 34.3 GB for 1147 files and 18 folders. [Although note that I previously asked for the Properties of "Sibelius 7 Sounds", not "Sibelius Sounds" as you posted]

Please download (from your Avid account at http://my.avid.com/ ) the full Sounds installer and run it.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 12 Jan 12:18AM
for clarification, this worked fine until mid-December then the sound library disappeared, Sibelius sounds must have been installed in some form. Have attached the account products details and cannot find the file size you described. Thanks for your continued support.
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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 12 Jan 12:30AM
Attached list of my products but the file size does not match your description and also I am unable to run the file I have.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Mike Lyons - 12 Jan 06:26AM
Sibelius sounds have not been upgraded since 7.5. If you upgraded from Sib 7, you should find the original sounds installer listed under that. Your screenshots show the downloads for the sib 7.5 updater. This is not a complete installation.

Have you moved the original library to a different place? Something on your computer has changed since 'just before Cristmas'.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 12 Jan 08:56AM (edited 12 Jan 09:14AM)
> Attached list of my products but the file size does not match your description

Your screen shot does not show the Sounds Installer: only a Sounds Updater which is of no use to you. The Sounds Installer should be of 23.22 GByte download size, expanding to 34.3 GB when installed.

Your screen-shot shows that you had clicked on and initiated a download of the correct 23.2 GByte file but had not told the web browser what to do with it. The download takes many hours, and you must configure the power settings of Windows so that your PC does not go to sleep or standby during the download.

> and also I am unable to run the file I have.

Please say what file you have (full name and size), and why you are unable to run it: full text of any error message.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 12 Jan 10:52PM
I have now downloaded Sibelius 7 sounds, and yes it took many hours but it is now 100% downloaded. Now what do I do? I did try and play back a big band score but I could still only hear the piano track.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 12 Jan 11:24PM
Quit Sibelius. The downloaded file will be a .zip archive. Right-click on the icon for the downloaded .zip archive and choose "Extract all", which will take some time. Inside the extracted folder, double-click the Sounds Installer. That will also take some time. When it has finished, launch Sibelius and try again.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 13 Jan 03:41PM
Have attached screen shot of latest activity. I went into programs and found all the downloads, I have selected the zip file but it doesn't say 'extract all'. Further instructions please!

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Jan 03:56PM
This problem derives from "WinRAR" having been installed on this PC. WinRAR is an almost completely unnecessary addition to a system. All versions of Windows since Windows XP have been unable to unzip .zip files without any help from extra applications such as WinRAR or WinZip. Both companies prey on gullible users to part with money for features, of which the most commonly used by end-users are available free of charge in the operating system, or by alternative free unpacking applications.

By and large, if you install third-party utilities on the system, then you must take the responsibility for figuring out how to use them: this is no longer a Sibelius problem.

But, in the screen-shot you showed us, it appears that you just need to click "OK". You might benefit from first selecting "Overwrite without prompt"

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Laurence Payne - 13 Jan 04:02PM
Unfortunately, Windows doesn't natively deal with RAR files, or the esoteric formats a Mac user might send us. Though we might expect a user who finds a reason to install a specialist archive utility to be 'computery' enough to work out how to use it!

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 13 Jan 05:00PM
> Unfortunately, Windows doesn't natively deal with RAR files,

But who needs them? Really? RAR is a proprietary format generated only by the products of that company. Storage nowadays is cheap and plentiful, and the burning need for compression algorithms that squeeze a few percent more than ZIP achieves has largely evaporated.

Besides, those that want that few-percent-better compression can look at 7-zip, which (a) is free, and (b) also decompresses other archive formats. It can even decompress most of the RARs that other people might send to you.

> or the esoteric formats a Mac user might send us.

Mostly the Mac world has moved away from proprietary formats such as Stuffit and on to open formats such as .tar and .gz, which are well handled for free by 7-zip, even under Windows.

Both Windows and Mac OS can unzip .zip archives, and can compress to make .zip files. No-one needs WinRAR or WinZip just to be able to exchange conventional .zip files. If you want better than .zip, then the .7z format is open and free.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Laurence Payne - 13 Jan 06:03PM
Yup, 7-zip is a useful utility.

But when a user has little concept of unpacking an archive and running an installer, even native un-Zipping by Windows will doubtless be an obstacle. Particularly if that perfidious 'Hide extensions for known file types' setting is active. Is it still the default?

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 14 Jan 04:53PM
Having downloaded & installed the sound files, I now have a full range of sounds when I playback a score (and not just the piano track!). However, the quality of sounds, in particular the brass & wind instruments, is of poor quality and somehow distorted and certainly lacking the clarity & definition I am used to. I find it difficult to live with such sound quality. Thanks, anyway for solving my initial problem. Do you have any further suggestions regarding improving sound quality?

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 14 Jan 05:35PM
What is the brand and model of the audio output card on your PC?

Please attach screen-shots of the new settings of:
1. Playback Devices;
2. Audio Engine Options.

Also, in Audio Engine Options, pull down the "Interface" menu and list back to us what the available options are for it.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Laurence Payne - 14 Jan 07:00PM
Sometimes Sibelius playback suffers gross distortion, like it's playing through a blown speaker. The cure, for that session, is to toggle any setting in Audio Engine Options.

More subtle distortion, characterised by stuttering playback rather than actual tonal distortion may be caused by an inadequate on-board audio system. Google for 'ASIO4ALL' and try installing it. It's free and removable.

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 14 Jan 07:57PM
Brand and model of the audio output card: High Definition Audio Device (Microsoft). Device status: 'This device is working properly'. Screen shots attached for Playback Devices + Audio Engine Options.
Available options on interface menu:
interface: Microsoft Sound Mapper (MME)
outputs: Speakers (High Definition) (MME)
Buffer Size: Primary Sound Driver (DS)
Sample Rate: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) (DS)
Latency: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) (DS)
I hope this is the information you need!

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by S J Davies - 14 Jan 08:01PM
here is the 'missing' screenshot - sorry about that!

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Re: Only Piano track plays on playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 14 Jan 08:36PM
The "High Definition Audio Device" is a cheap mass=production consumer-grade chip on the motherboard. By itself, it might not be able to handle the demands of audio output from applications like Sibelius.

The choices are:
Either (a) purchase a higher quality audio output device;
or (b) try using ASIO4ALL from http://www.asio4all.com/ with the "High Definition Audio Device". The downside of ASIO4ALL is that it adds another layer of complexity to configuring Sibelius audio output.

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Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 07 Jan 04:10PM
     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 07 Jan 05:17PM
         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Mike Lyons, 08 Jan 10:00AM
             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 10 Jan 03:36PM
             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 10 Jan 03:42PM
                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 10 Jan 03:49PM
                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 11 Jan 02:39PM
                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 11 Jan 02:49PM
                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Mike Lyons, 11 Jan 02:59PM
                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 11 Jan 04:23PM
                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 11 Jan 04:32PM
                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 11 Jan 04:56PM
                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 11 Jan 05:02PM
                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 12 Jan 12:18AM
                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 12 Jan 12:30AM
                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Mike Lyons, 12 Jan 06:26AM
                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 12 Jan 08:56AM
                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 12 Jan 10:52PM
                                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 12 Jan 11:24PM
                                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 13 Jan 03:41PM
                                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 13 Jan 03:56PM
                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Laurence Payne, 13 Jan 04:02PM
                                                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 13 Jan 05:00PM
                                                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Laurence Payne, 13 Jan 06:03PM
                                                                             Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 14 Jan 04:53PM
                                                                                 Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 05:35PM
                                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Laurence Payne, 14 Jan 07:00PM
                                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 14 Jan 07:57PM
                                                                                     Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - S J Davies, 14 Jan 08:01PM
                                                                                         Re: Only Piano track plays on playback - Robin Walker, 14 Jan 08:36PM