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soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 03 Dec 07:11PM
     Re: soundsets enabling - Mark K Sealey, 03 Dec 07:56PM
     Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 03 Dec 08:00PM
         Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 12:12AM
             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 12:19AM
             Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 04 Dec 12:20AM
                 Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:15AM
                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:25AM
                         Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:27AM
                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:28AM
                                 Re: soundsets enabling - Mark K Sealey, 04 Dec 06:15AM
                                     Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 04 Dec 10:53AM
                                         Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 07:13PM
                                             Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 04 Dec 07:18PM
                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 07:33PM
                                                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 12:05AM
                                                         Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 11 Dec 12:21AM
                                                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 03:05AM
                                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 03:19AM
                                                                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 03:32AM
                                                                         Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 11 Dec 10:34AM
                                                                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 12 Dec 05:26AM
                                                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 12 Dec 09:57AM
                                                                                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 12 Dec 10:51PM
                                                                                         Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 12 Dec 11:30PM
                                                                                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 14 Dec 02:38AM
                                                                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 14 Dec 07:25AM

soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 03 Dec 07:11PM

I need to be reminded, again, how to get the soundsets to appear on the active devices page. What shows up is some old stuff I remember from Sibelius 5. All of the necessary files are in (user, roncleave,library,application support,Avid, Sibelius.) all their proper places. This problem happens each time I upgrade, or up-date Sibelius.

Thanks, Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 03 Dec 07:56PM
Could you actually have the remnants of sound sets from an earlier installation, Ron?

And you did let the installer run completely; it's necessary to do that to make sure everything is in place for a new version?

Is either of these links any use:

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/en431891
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/how_to/How-to-install-a-Sibelius-sound-set

?

Good luck!

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 03 Dec 08:00PM
> This problem happens each time I upgrade, or up-date Sibelius.

What, precisely, is the problem?

And do you mean Sibelius SoundSet files, or third-party sample libraries?

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 12:12AM
> > This problem happens each time I upgrade, or up-date Sibelius.
>
> What, precisely, is the problem?
>
> And do you mean Sibelius SoundSet files, or third-party sample libraries?
>
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The problem is that Sibelius is not seeing that there are a whole bunch of sound sets (mostly EastWest). Yes I do mean sound sets. I know it is something simple. Just not obvious.
Thanks, Ron

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 12:19AM

Hi Mark, I reread the info. you posted but it didn't help. I think it has something to do with basic setup somewhere.
-- Ron


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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 04 Dec 12:20AM
Please attach screen-shots of:

1. The Sibelius dialogue "Playback Configuration" with an instance of the EWQL Play device activated, and the SoundSet column menu dropped down;

2. The Finder window (in List mode) for the folder:
~/Library/Application Support/Avid/Sibelius

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 02:15AM

Hi Robin, here are three att. one is the playback conflict. with the various sound set options listed as if I could capture the dropdown.(this can not be done directly with "Grab".

Then two file tree lists (one as you requested and one from the Users library. The first one has nothing in the Sibelius folder.
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 02:25AM

Once more, "with feeling"
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 02:27AM

apparently you can only have one attachment
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 02:28AM
done

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 04 Dec 06:15AM
Ron,

If you used the Timed Screen option, you'll be able to set the timer (10 seconds delay), call the dropdown, hold it and then capture it. Good luck!

> as if I could capture the dropdown.(this can not be done directly with "Grab".

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 04 Dec 10:53AM
Please attach a screen-shot which includes the entire contents of the "Sounds" folder (which appeared un-expanded in the right-hand column of your last screen-shot above).

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 07:13PM

Hi Robin, I did it! Well, got the screen shot as you suggested.
Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 04 Dec 07:18PM
That is not a screen-shot of the contents of the "Sounds" folder. Please attach a screen-shot of the contents of the "Sounds" folder, as displayed by the Finder, in "Details" view", showing the size and date of each file.

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 04 Dec 07:33PM

Ok,Robin, I hope this is what you want.
Thanks for your patients, Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 11 Dec 12:05AM

So, Is there anyone out there that is actually willing to help? ... Sam, Vee, Joe?
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Dec 12:21AM
This folder, although called "Sounds", appears to have some contents other than SoundSet files. Many of them look like saved Playback Configurations (which are also .xml files).

Where exactly is this particular "Sounds" folder in the hierarchy of folders on disk?

I suspect that, if this is intended to be the "Sounds" folder in which Sibelius looks for user-installed SoundSet files, then Sibelius would choke on the non-SoundSet content and give up.

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 11 Dec 03:05AM


-- Hi Robin, the path is : users/roncleave/library/application support/Avid/Sibelius/sounds.
I removed one file that may not have been a soundset. started up Sibelius and looked in active devices in the soundset colum. no change... rats!
Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 11 Dec 03:19AM
Also I looked in : library/app support/Avid/sounds. That had a bunch of non-soundset files. I removed them. restarted Sibelius .... no change.
Ron

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 11 Dec 03:32AM

once more: on the same string but, library/app support/Avid/Sibelius/sounds
Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 11 Dec 10:34AM
Ron, please do not delete files from "Sounds" folders other than the one in question: doing that will wreck playback from the Sibelius 7 Sounds sample library.

Explicitly, only in the folder:
/Users/roncleave/Library/Application Support/Avid/Sibelius/Sounds
- in turn, open each file in a plain-text editor, and examine it;
- if the file is a SoundSet, leave the file in place;
- if the file is not a SoundSet, remove it from the "Sounds" folder and put it somewhere else safe, not in a Sibelius folder;
- repeat for every file in the folder.

All Sibelius SoundSet files will have the text:
DOCTYPE Soundset
in or near the second line.
If you see the text "DOCTYPE" with anything other than "Soundset", then drag the file into some other folder is a safe place (not in a Sibelius area).

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 12 Dec 05:26AM

Hi Robin, I went through the sounds file again and found 3 more mischiefs file. That sill did not fix the problem. BUT .... I finally noticed what the problem is. All the XML files have the Play icon in front of them. I went to finder/file/get info. and tried to change the files to open with Sibelius. But they won't change. It must need to be done another way. Any ideas?

slugging on, Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 12 Dec 09:57AM
> I finally noticed what the problem is. All the XML files have the Play icon in front of them.

This is completely irrelevant. Don't bother to do anything about it. It does not matter what the icon is.

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 12 Dec 10:51PM

Hi Robin, The icon tell what application the computer will use to open the file. This use to be OmniOutliner on the Mac. Play is obviously not right and Sibelius doesn't work either. Do you know anyone with a Mac that can tell us what the preferred application is?
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Ron


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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 12 Dec 11:30PM
> The icon tell what application the computer will use to open the file.

As I said before, IT DOES NOT MATTER what the icon is for the purpose of Sibelius using SoundSet files. You are chasing a false lead in worrying about this.

Just continue to weed all non-SoundSet files out of the "Sounds" folder. Sibelius will accept only files with SoundSet content in this folder.

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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by E. Ron Cleave - 14 Dec 02:38AM

There is nothing in the "sounds" folder but sound sets. I still don't work.
Ron
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Re: soundsets enabling
Posted by Robin Walker - 14 Dec 07:25AM
Please attach another screen-shot of the Finder listing the "Sounds" folder in Details view.

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soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 03 Dec 07:11PM
     Re: soundsets enabling - Mark K Sealey, 03 Dec 07:56PM
     Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 03 Dec 08:00PM
         Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 12:12AM
             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 12:19AM
             Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 04 Dec 12:20AM
                 Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:15AM
                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:25AM
                         Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:27AM
                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 02:28AM
                                 Re: soundsets enabling - Mark K Sealey, 04 Dec 06:15AM
                                     Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 04 Dec 10:53AM
                                         Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 07:13PM
                                             Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 04 Dec 07:18PM
                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 04 Dec 07:33PM
                                                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 12:05AM
                                                         Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 11 Dec 12:21AM
                                                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 03:05AM
                                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 03:19AM
                                                                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 11 Dec 03:32AM
                                                                         Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 11 Dec 10:34AM
                                                                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 12 Dec 05:26AM
                                                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 12 Dec 09:57AM
                                                                                     Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 12 Dec 10:51PM
                                                                                         Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 12 Dec 11:30PM
                                                                                             Re: soundsets enabling - E. Ron Cleave, 14 Dec 02:38AM
                                                                                                 Re: soundsets enabling - Robin Walker, 14 Dec 07:25AM