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Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts No... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 04:50PM
     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Robin Walker, 29 Oct 05:44PM
         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 06:04PM
             Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 06:31PM
                 Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Robin Walker, 29 Oct 06:39PM
                     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 06:44PM
                         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Philip R, 14 Nov 02:24AM
                             Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - David Butterworth, 21 Nov 07:31PM
                                 Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Mark K Sealey, 21 Nov 07:40PM
                                     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 28 Nov 03:56PM
                                         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Ole Visby, 30 Nov 02:26PM
                                             Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - lindabass, 08 Feb 02:07PM
                                                 Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - lindabass, 08 Feb 02:11PM
     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - James, 08 Feb 04:05PM
         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - lindabass, 16 Feb 02:56PM

Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by TimWhalenMusic - 29 Oct 04:50PM (edited 29 Oct 05:31PM)
Since updating to Sibelius 8.4, all of my keyboard shortcuts that combine Command with Option are now not working, and it is really slowing my flow down. I have LOTS of keyboard shortcuts with this combination.

For instance:
Command+Option+N = filter notes and chords, but now it opens the startup menu
Command+Option+C = filter chord symbols, but nothing happens
Command+Option+S = filter slurs, but now it saves the document

In other words, it's doing the shortcut as if I was only using Command+something.

Any help or explanation would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 Oct 05:44PM
Is this a keyboard hardware defect?

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by TimWhalenMusic - 29 Oct 06:04PM
> Is this a keyboard hardware defect?
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no
all keys work perfectly fine in all other applications


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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by TimWhalenMusic - 29 Oct 06:31PM (edited 29 Oct 06:32PM)
The Option key is only not working when combined with the Command key. This is only occurring in Sibelius.

It works fine when I do a shortcut combining Control+Option+Command

The Option key also seems to work when I use it on its own. Option+D is the shortcut for double barline, and that works fine.

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 Oct 06:39PM
Are you still on El Capitan, or have you upgraded to Sierra? There are some known issues with Sierra and shortcuts.

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by TimWhalenMusic - 29 Oct 06:44PM
> Are you still on El Capitan, or have you upgraded to Sierra? There are some known issues with Sierra and shortcuts.
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I upgraded to Sierra. That would definitely make sense.

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by Philip R - 14 Nov 02:24AM
I'm having this problem in Sibelius 7.5 as well. I'm on Sierra.

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by David Butterworth - 21 Nov 07:31PM
Also have this problem. Sibelius 8.4.2 & Mac OS 10.12.1

Any idea if it's going to be addressed soonish?

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 21 Nov 07:40PM
I have that combination (8.4.2 on 10.12.1) and so far have not experienced the phenomenon.

But there are at least two other threads where posters describe conceivably similar behaviour in terms of keys acting strangely:

1 - http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=706695&groupid=3&words=menu&name=

2 - http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=704900&groupid=3&

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by TimWhalenMusic - 28 Nov 03:56PM
Any word on if this issue has been addressed? This issue is only occurring for me in Sibelius.

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by Ole Visby - 30 Nov 02:26PM
Same problem here!

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by lindabass - 08 Feb 02:07PM
Same problem

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by lindabass - 08 Feb 02:11PM
Since I've updated to Sierra, Sibelius ignores the alt key.

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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by James - 08 Feb 04:05PM
> For instance:
> Command+Option+N = filter notes and chords, but now it opens the startup menu
> Command+Option+C = filter chord symbols, but nothing happens
> Command+Option+S = filter slurs, but now it saves the document

From the above description, one can conclude that the option key is not working in these combinations and what you are getting are the shortcuts as if only the command button and letter are down.

I tried the above on Sib 6.2 and Mac OS Sierra and they worked, although in Sib 6.2 they do other things. For example, command-option N toggles the Navigator window. So all is well in Sib 6.2 and Sierra. Problem is apparently with Sib 7 and later.


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Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts Not Working
Posted by lindabass - 16 Feb 02:56PM
I've just downloaded SIb 8 and the alt key is working again.

Good way to force one to buy the new version

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Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcuts No... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 04:50PM
     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Robin Walker, 29 Oct 05:44PM
         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 06:04PM
             Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 06:31PM
                 Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Robin Walker, 29 Oct 06:39PM
                     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 29 Oct 06:44PM
                         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Philip R, 14 Nov 02:24AM
                             Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - David Butterworth, 21 Nov 07:31PM
                                 Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Mark K Sealey, 21 Nov 07:40PM
                                     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - TimWhalenMusic, 28 Nov 03:56PM
                                         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - Ole Visby, 30 Nov 02:26PM
                                             Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - lindabass, 08 Feb 02:07PM
                                                 Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - lindabass, 08 Feb 02:11PM
     Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - James, 08 Feb 04:05PM
         Re: Sib 8.4: Command + Option Keyboard Shortcut... - lindabass, 16 Feb 02:56PM