'Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines'

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Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Venancio @ Avid, 23 Oct 09:55PM
     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Oct 10:30PM
         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Richard Vitale, 24 Oct 03:31PM
             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Greg Jones, 24 Oct 06:35PM
                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Venancio @ Avid, 25 Oct 02:45PM
                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - James, 26 Oct 01:19AM
                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Peter Roos, 26 Oct 02:02AM
                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Mark Isaacs, 26 Oct 05:08AM
                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 22 Jul 05:52PM
                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 22 Jul 06:28PM
                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 22 Jul 11:11PM
                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 12:19AM
                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Peter Roos, 23 Jul 12:51AM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 23 Jul 02:01PM
                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 23 Jul 02:02PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Adrian Drover, 23 Jul 02:29PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 03:39PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 07:02PM
                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 07:40PM
                                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 07:54PM
                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Robin Walker, 23 Jul 08:00PM
                                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Steve, 27 Jul 02:05AM
                                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Jul 04:08PM
                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 08:03PM
                                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Mike Lyons, 23 Jul 08:15PM
                                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 08:43PM
                                                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 09:21PM
                                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Adrian Drover, 23 Jul 11:39PM
                                                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Ronald Pearl, 24 Jul 12:47AM
                                                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 24 Jul 03:55PM
                                                                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Mike Lyons, 24 Jul 07:25PM
                                                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - SLM57, 28 Oct 06:44AM
     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Hank, 20 Nov 02:10PM
         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Ingrid, 20 Nov 03:55PM

Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 23 Oct 09:55PM (edited 26 Oct 04:32PM)
One of our goals is to help you succeed in whatever field you're in. We'd like for you to use the tool that best fits you, and we really hope that it’s Sibelius.

That being said, we share the opinion of some of the members here that there's a place for Dorico questions to be answered, and that is the Dorico forum. We've never deleted posts which mentioned other notation programs as long as they're solving customer problems and are kept to a minimum. However, full-discussion threads on competitive software are deemed inappropriate as this forum is made available for the community to get/give help and advice about Sibelius.

We'd like to inform everyone that we will be removing the Dorico threads. This community remains a place where all Sibelius users can receive support from fellow users, the Sibelius Product Development team, and the Sibelius Customer Care and Community team.


Best regards,
Vee

ADDENDUM:

Avid Community Exchange Terms of Use and Conduct Guidelines
http://community.avid.com/forums/terms.aspx

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Chris Crawley - 23 Oct 10:30PM (edited 23 Oct 10:30PM)
Thank you, Vee, for clarifying this. I can't say I'm surprised at Avid's decision to axe the threads mentioned.

However, I hope that anyone who is interested in other scoring programs and is uncertain where to find help and to air their views realises that they can Google the forum Vee mentions and can also find relevant pages on Facebook - where there are also at least two Sibelius-related groups.

Also, the Sibelius blog (you can Google that as well) covers other programs than Sibelius; this is not, of course, connected with Avid.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Richard Vitale - 24 Oct 03:31PM
Thank you Vee,

Perhaps you can pin this announcement to the top of the Forum for a week or two so everyone has a chance to view it.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Greg Jones - 24 Oct 06:35PM
Thank you for clearing up this matter, Vee.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 25 Oct 02:45PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, will do on pinning the announcement

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by James - 26 Oct 01:19AM
I prefer free expression to censorship. Except profanity, cruelty, insults, sales of unrelated products, and so on should, of course, be banned. But I very much appreciated how in the past we could freely discuss Finale, MuseScore, or whatever. Yes, the guidelines were in place but they were rarely enforced. And we have flourished in our helpful discussion together. Respectfully, I encourage a light hand.



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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Peter Roos - 26 Oct 02:02AM
> I prefer free expression to censorship. Except profanity, cruelty, insults, sales of unrelated products, and so on should, of course, be banned. But I very much appreciated how in the past we could freely discuss Finale, MuseScore, or whatever. Yes, the guidelines were in place but they were rarely enforced. And we have flourished in our helpful discussion together. Respectfully, I encourage a light hand.
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> Mac OS 10.9 Mavericks
> Sibelius 6.2


I agree with that.

Dorico was released last week, so there's a lot of hype around that, and huge traffic on the Dorico forum, and elsewhere (Facebook, twitter, what have you).

Dorico is not a perfect product - in a lot of ways Sibelius is superior, at least at this point.

Comparison of engraving programs, and comparing features, and pros and cons, is fair game as far as I am concerned.

[Insert Long Pause - or Fermata?]

What really ticks me off are the extremely negative and disparaging comments towards Sibelius and its development, some of them really personal. "Sibelius is at a dead end" "Avid is just milking the product" "Avid is evil" "There is no development"

It is really unfair, and bullshit. I know that Sam and Joe are working on a lot of things. No - not a cure for a cancer - but the product is far from dead.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Mark Isaacs - 26 Oct 05:08AM (edited 26 Oct 05:09AM)
I'm very happy for this forum to be confined to discussing Sibelius, and for discussion of Dorico to take place on Dorico-designated platforms.

As a former forum owner myself, I know that the hosts/moderator/forum owners are fully entitled to make whatever rules they wish here. If we don't like the rules, we don't have to participate.

So my positive opinion about the new ruling is itself irrelevant.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 22 Jul 05:52PM (edited 22 Jul 05:54PM)
Hi folks,

I don't know how true this rumour is, but I do hear from time to time that a lot of forums are considering closing and relocating to Facebook - because of the huge amount of traffic which passes through it.

I hope Avid never consider doing this.

Best,

Paul David Seaman (UK)

Fender Rhodes Suitcase / Fender Rhodes Stage / Mini Moog Model D / Multi Moog / Hohner E7 Clavinet / Yamaha DX7 (Mk1) & DX21 / Roland Juno 6 / Roland XV5050 (module).

Cubase 9 / Sibelius 8.6

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Chris Crawley - 22 Jul 06:28PM
There's already considerable activity on FB with at least two Sibelius-related groups. Quite often people with questions are invited to post over here in the "Help Center", as it's easier to attach scores.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 22 Jul 11:11PM
Hi Chris,

Fair enough. Seems that Facebook is taking over the world. But one thing is for sure: I won't be joining! Hopefully this Avid forum will still be around for a couple more decades...

Paul

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jul 12:19AM
You're not one of those boring people who've taken a set against Facebook are you? It has its uses, if only for finding out when your friends' funerals are - a Facebook announcement is often considered sufficient these days. I think the kids have moved elsewhere, but FB is still a prime resource for the over-40s crowd.

There's a better s/n ratio here than on the Facebook Sibelius groups. And it's useful to be able to directly attach sib files to replies rather than just pictures.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Peter Roos - 23 Jul 12:51AM
Fwiw, there are some excellent Facebook groups.

Orchestration Online
PERSPECTIVE: A FORUM FOR FILM, TV AND MEDIA COMPOSERS (yes it's all high caps)
Music Engraving Tips
FILM ORCHESTRATORS
SibMus friends, ScoreExchange publishers and other serious Sibelius users

I can recommend joining any one of these.

Facebook is not just for posting pictures of your cat (though I love those) or what you're having for lunch, it can be a useful tool as well.

I got 4 orchestration gigs this year, all through Facebook. For whatever reason people can find me on Facebook, even if they lost my cell phone number or email address.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 23 Jul 02:01PM (edited 23 Jul 02:01PM)
Peter,

If that is your experience then all well and good – and I hope it leads on to more positive things for you. You obviously have no reasons to fault the platform.

But I can honestly say that I have never had a single gig booked from any online profiles I created during the advent of the internet. One example: everyone kept pestering and sending me invites to join a site called ‘Link-In’ (or something like that). In the end I gave in and a mate showed me how to create a profile. Since then, I have something like one-thousand people following me (or ‘friends’ the site may call them). I don’t have a clue who any of these people are and it has never led to anything other than lots of ‘spam’ mail! Every gig I have played has been through either someone seeing me perform, or else though a recommendation.

Anyway, that’s just my own experience I am sharing. I won’t comment here again as I do not wish to detract from the initial subject-matter of this thread.

Thanks,

Paul

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by monsterjazzlicks - 23 Jul 02:02PM (edited 23 Jul 02:32PM)
> You're not one of those boring people who've taken a set against Facebook are you?

Hi Laurence,

Why would not being a member of FaceBook make me “boring”, please?

I have to say, that is one of the most unfounded and idiotic things I have heard. People do have their own personal reasons for not joining I might add (as do my entire family – not just myself).

This is possibly (whether joking or not) the third condescending remark you have made against me in as many months. While you may be wizard on Sibelius, it’s probably best (for this forum) we don’t communicate from now on.

Good luck with your music.

Paul

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Adrian Drover - 23 Jul 02:29PM (edited 23 Jul 02:36PM)
You don't want to fall out with Laurence, Paul. He's one of the most helpful (and fun loving) guys on this forum. If it's any consolation, I'm one of the boring guys who avoids FB like the plague too. If you want to get your own back on Laurence, just tell everyone he plays a plastic trombone ;-)

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Chris Crawley - 23 Jul 03:39PM (edited 23 Jul 03:39PM)
Laurence's humour can seem blunt, but you shouldn't take it personally. I don't think he intended to be condescending, though the remark is a bit off-hand, perhaps - no more.

He and I butt heads occasionally, in a playful way, but he is well-intentioned, helpful and very knowledgeable about music, Sibelius and computers.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jul 07:02PM (edited 23 Jul 07:02PM)
>I have to say, that is one of the most unfounded and idiotic things I have heard.

Are you SURE you're a practicing jazz musician, Mr. Monster? :-)

(I wonder if this will attract the attention of our Kraken?)

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Chris Crawley - 23 Jul 07:40PM
"Practising", Laurence. "Practising".

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jul 07:54PM
> "Practising", Laurence. "Practising".
>

Surely jazz takes the American spelling?

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Robin Walker - 23 Jul 08:00PM (edited 23 Jul 08:02PM)
"Practising" is the American spelling, for both verb and noun.

In British English, the noun is spelled (or is it spelt?) "Practice",
but the verb is "Practise", the same as the American verb.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Steve - 27 Jul 02:05AM
> "Practising" is the American spelling, for both verb and noun.
>
> In British English, the noun is spelled (or is it spelt?) "Practice",
> but the verb is "Practise", the same as the American verb.
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No, we use the c over here. Practicing
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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 28 Jul 04:08PM
>
> No, we use the c over here. Practicing

From several recent performances I've heard, I think we simply omit practice altogether so "c" versus "s" is irrelevant.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Chris Crawley - 23 Jul 08:03PM (edited 23 Jul 08:36PM)
I thought you, Laurence, as a Brit, were speaking British English. I mean, we don't all start to use French whenever we discuss Ravel.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jul 08:15PM
Pourquoi non?

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Chris Crawley - 23 Jul 08:43PM
"Pourquoi non?" (Vous voulez dire «pourquoi pas», peut-être.)

Réponse: parce que ça ne marche pas comme ça.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jul 09:21PM
Bolleaux.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Adrian Drover - 23 Jul 11:39PM
¿Que?

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Ronald Pearl - 24 Jul 12:47AM
C'est bien, Laurence! Bien joué...



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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Laurence Payne - 24 Jul 03:55PM
>Bien joué...

:-)

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Mike Lyons - 24 Jul 07:25PM
Nous parlons Franglais!

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by SLM57 - 28 Oct 06:44AM
I do not know where to ask my question! Excuse me.

All perfectly! But, there is not enough:

1. Numbering of instruments in the mixer

2. Manager plugins

Can we hope?

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Hank - 20 Nov 02:10PM
How about questions on Note Performer? The player only works with Sibelius. It was recommended on this community. Can we post questions on how the two software work together? Please advise. Thanks.

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Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines
Posted by Ingrid - 20 Nov 03:55PM
> How about questions on Note Performer? The player only works with Sibelius. It was recommended on this community. Can we post questions on how the two software work together? Please advise. Thanks.

Hi,

Please create a separate post for this. Thank you.

Best regards,
Ingrid | Sibelius Support

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Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Venancio @ Avid, 23 Oct 09:55PM
     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Oct 10:30PM
         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Richard Vitale, 24 Oct 03:31PM
             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Greg Jones, 24 Oct 06:35PM
                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Venancio @ Avid, 25 Oct 02:45PM
                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - James, 26 Oct 01:19AM
                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Peter Roos, 26 Oct 02:02AM
                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Mark Isaacs, 26 Oct 05:08AM
                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 22 Jul 05:52PM
                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 22 Jul 06:28PM
                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 22 Jul 11:11PM
                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 12:19AM
                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Peter Roos, 23 Jul 12:51AM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 23 Jul 02:01PM
                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - monsterjazzlicks, 23 Jul 02:02PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Adrian Drover, 23 Jul 02:29PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 03:39PM
                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 07:02PM
                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 07:40PM
                                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 07:54PM
                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Robin Walker, 23 Jul 08:00PM
                                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Steve, 27 Jul 02:05AM
                                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Jul 04:08PM
                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 08:03PM
                                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Mike Lyons, 23 Jul 08:15PM
                                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Chris Crawley, 23 Jul 08:43PM
                                                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 23 Jul 09:21PM
                                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Adrian Drover, 23 Jul 11:39PM
                                                                                     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Ronald Pearl, 24 Jul 12:47AM
                                                                                         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Laurence Payne, 24 Jul 03:55PM
                                                                                             Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Mike Lyons, 24 Jul 07:25PM
                                                                                                 Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - SLM57, 28 Oct 06:44AM
     Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Hank, 20 Nov 02:10PM
         Re: Sibelius Forum Community Guidelines - Ingrid, 20 Nov 03:55PM