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Request for feature - bugbuster, 28 Sep 03:59PM
     Re: Request for feature - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Sep 06:01PM
         Re: Request for feature - Mark K Sealey, 28 Sep 06:19PM
             Re: Request for feature - Mike Lyons, 28 Sep 08:16PM
                 Re: Request for feature - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Sep 08:59PM
                 Re: Request for feature - Ronald Pearl, 28 Sep 10:46PM
             Re: Request for feature - bugbuster, 28 Sep 08:26PM
     Re: Request for feature - bugbuster, 28 Sep 08:28PM
         Re: Request for feature - Andy G, 29 Sep 08:08AM
             Re: Request for feature - Ronald Pearl, 29 Sep 02:18PM
                 Re: Request for feature - Mark K Sealey, 29 Sep 02:42PM
                     Re: Request for feature - Adrian Drover, 29 Sep 02:50PM
                     Re: Request for feature - Robert Enns, 29 Sep 02:51PM
                         Re: Request for feature - Bob Morabito, 29 Sep 03:33PM
                             Re: Request for feature - Chris Crawley, 29 Sep 03:48PM
                                 Re: Request for feature - Robert Enns, 29 Sep 06:53PM
                     Re: Request for feature - Rob Tuley, 29 Sep 07:33PM
                         Re: Request for feature - Mike Lyons, 29 Sep 09:48PM
                             Re: Request for feature - Jeff Hale, 30 Sep 04:36PM
                                 Re: Request for feature - Mike Lyons, 30 Sep 07:49PM
                                 Re: Request for feature - Patrick O'Keefe, 02 Oct 11:22PM

Request for feature
Posted by bugbuster - 28 Sep 03:59PM
I run a lot of different applications. My computer runs better the fewer applications I have running at the same time. So I quit and re-start Sibelius many times while writing a score.
I wish that Sib could [optionally] automatically open the last-edited score on start-up. I would rather close the old score and open a new one once in a while than have this little chore of dubious necessity to do over and over.

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Misplaced jazz guitar player, would play chamber music on violin if could relive life, have retired from day job, composing chamber music and writing parts for a jazz group. Sibelius 7, Mac OS 10.7 aka Feral Cat.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 28 Sep 06:01PM
Such suggestions are best made through the Sibelius IdeaScale web site: http://sibelius.ideascale.com/

Incidentally, please state that the behavior you request should be optional. I would definitely vote against that request if it were mandatory behavior.

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Patrick O'Keefe

Sib 7.5, GPO4, NotePerformer, lots of EWQL stuff
Win10 x64 Pro Intel i7-4771, 3.50Ghz, 16GB RAM

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 28 Sep 06:19PM
You can also always launch the (Sibelius) score as a document in its own right; that will do what you want just as well.

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Mark Sealey
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014); 4 GHz Intel Core i7; 32 GB Ram; 10.12.1; 8.4.2

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Mike Lyons - 28 Sep 08:16PM
You should run as few other applications as possible while you are running sibelius.

I have never understood why Mac users in particular seem to want to run 15 programs all at the same time!

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Win 10 Pro, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.3 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC,
Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 28 Sep 08:59PM

> I have never understood why Mac users in particular seem to want to run 15 programs all at the same time!

From what I've seen (looking over shoulders - the closest I get to Macs) closing a Mac "window" does not necessarily terminate the program. At least for some programs, closing the window just puts the program in the background. The user may not even realize the program is still in storage using resources. The Mac operating system seems to think this is doing users a favor.

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Patrick O'Keefe

Sib 7.5, GPO4, NotePerformer, lots of EWQL stuff
Win10 x64 Pro Intel i7-4771, 3.50Ghz, 16GB RAM

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Ronald Pearl - 28 Sep 10:46PM

>
> I have never understood why Mac users in particular seem to want to run 15 programs all at the same time!
>
> --
> Win 10 Pro, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.3 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC,
> Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse.

It's because we think we can multi-task. We can't...
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Ron Pearl
7.1.2
iMac, 10.7.5, 2.5 GHz i5, 4G ram
http://www.ronaldmpearl.com/

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by bugbuster - 28 Sep 08:26PM
Right, and I often do that. It's easier to just hit the Sibelius icon on the toolbar than to browse for the current score every time. Lots of other applications have the option to open to the current project. I like that.

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Misplaced jazz guitar player, would play chamber music on violin if could relive life, have retired from day job, composing chamber music and writing parts for a jazz group. Sibelius 7, Mac OS 10.7 aka Feral Cat.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by bugbuster - 28 Sep 08:28PM
I agree. That's why I wrote "[optionally]" in my post at the start of the 2nd paragraph.

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Misplaced jazz guitar player, would play chamber music on violin if could relive life, have retired from day job, composing chamber music and writing parts for a jazz group. Sibelius 7, Mac OS 10.7 aka Feral Cat.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Andy G - 29 Sep 08:08AM
>It's because we think we can multi-task. We can't...

Try being an organist - we CAN! :)

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PC: Q6700@3.2GHz,4GB RAM.Win 7. M-Audio 2496 + Terratec DMX6Fire USB. Sib 6.2 and 7.1.3. Web: www.andrew-gilbert.com

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Ronald Pearl - 29 Sep 02:18PM
Yeah, but an organist on a Mac? ;>)

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Ron Pearl
7.1.2
iMac, 10.7.5, 2.5 GHz i5, 4G ram
http://www.ronaldmpearl.com/

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 29 Sep 02:42PM
That's easy: because we can… without our systems crashing, being infected with viruses; without having to pay thousands in tech support, pay for upgrades; without having to puzzle out the differences between 'OK' and 'Apply'; without having to wait wait wait; without having to struggle with clunky interfaces, device managers, drivers and the like; without losing patience while rebooting; without having to reboot all the time; without having to run 'Registry' tools and repairers; without C:\ drives; without inelegant GUIs; without relying on DOS - etc.

(Sorry - hard to resist!)

> I have never understood why Mac users in particular seem to want to run 15 programs
> all at the same time!

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Mark Sealey
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014); 4 GHz Intel Core i7; 32 GB Ram; 10.12.1; 8.4.2

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Adrian Drover - 29 Sep 02:50PM
Sounds like heaven. My Acorn used to be like that.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Robert Enns - 29 Sep 02:51PM
Nonsense. Macs can crash. And do.


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Rob
Win 10 64 bit, 3.1 GHz, 8 Gigs RAM
Sibelius 7.5, and Sibelius 8.4
Sibelius Sounds 7.1.2, NotePerformer, GPO4, GPO5 Photoscore 8.0.4

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Bob Morabito - 29 Sep 03:33PM
>That's easy: because we can… without our systems crashing, being infected with viruses; without having to pay thousands in tech support, pay for upgrades; without having to puzzle out the differences between 'OK' and 'Apply'; without having to wait wait wait; without having to struggle with clunky interfaces, device managers, drivers and the like; without losing patience while rebooting; without having to reboot all the time; without having to run 'Registry' tools and repairers; without C:\ drives; without inelegant GUIs; without relying on DOS - etc.

(Sorry - hard to resist!)

>> I have never understood why Mac users in particular seem to want to run 15 programs
>> all at the same time!

For my money, the reasons for using a Mac couldnt be listed any better than in this post..+1

Of course, Your mileage--and MONEY--may vary:)

Thanks Bob

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Bob Morabito
Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1
Fin 2014.5
Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Chris Crawley - 29 Sep 03:48PM (edited 29 Sep 03:55PM)
One of the reasons I did not buy a Mac last year is that there seem to be problems with Sibelius whenever the OS is updated; another is the very limited potential for customising (extra RAM, for example); the third is the expense.

I do understand that Macs are well made and well designed and that hardware and software integrate closely. And people who have them seem to love them.

As a postscript, I don't seem to be afflicted with the stuff Mark mentions: "...systems crashing, being infected with viruses; without having to pay thousands in tech support, pay for upgrades; without having to puzzle out the differences between 'OK' and 'Apply'; without having to wait wait wait; without having to struggle with clunky interfaces, device managers, drivers and the like; without losing patience while rebooting; without having to reboot all the time; without having to run 'Registry' tools and repairers; without C:\ drives; without inelegant GUIs; without relying on DOS."

Well, maybe my interfaces are a bit clunky, and I have updated sound drivers and do have to update various programs (does this really never happen on a Mac?). Occasionally I'm asked to reboot after updates. I never touch the registry. And I believe Macs do, contrary to popular belief, sometimes get attacked by viruses. But I'm sure they are lovely machines.

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Chris Crawley (composer and horn-player) using Sibelius 7.1.3, NotePerformer, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Intel Core i7 3.30GHz, 64GB RAM, DacMagic 100

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Robert Enns - 29 Sep 06:53PM
My pet peeve is that Jobs decided that elegance trumped all. A one button mouse for instance. Folks couldn't handle two or three buttons let alone a scroll wheel. Far too complicated. But one button. So simply. So uncluttered.
So now to right click or chord click you had to use two hands. How is that simpler?

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Rob
Win 10 64 bit, 3.1 GHz, 8 Gigs RAM
Sibelius 7.5, and Sibelius 8.4
Sibelius Sounds 7.1.2, NotePerformer, GPO4, GPO5 Photoscore 8.0.4

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Rob Tuley - 29 Sep 07:33PM (edited 29 Sep 07:34PM)
> having to run 'Registry' tools and repairers;

I would be happy to have $10 for every time a Mac user asks how to fix Sibelius on this forum and the answer is "repair disk permissions," "try creating another user account and see if that one works" better than your existing one, or "do something magical to get your fonts working again".

But hey, I've never had to repair a Windows registry since Windows 95 (20 years ago) - maybe I'm just lucky ;)

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Rob

Sib 4.1, Windows 10.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Mike Lyons - 29 Sep 09:48PM (edited 30 Sep 07:48PM)
No. With very few exceptions, me neither! There have been, it must be admitted, the odd glitch or two, but compare that to the number of times Sib goes tits up on a Mac because the OS has changed something vital in its latest upgrade. I will NEVER, EVER have one.

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Win 10 Pro, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.3 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC,
Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Jeff Hale - 30 Sep 04:36PM
Although Windows 10 decided to update itself to the "anniversary edition" a couple days ago and it took almost an hour for the machine to boot up, with no explanation as to what was happening -- just a warning not to turn off the computer. Microsoft can be at least as annoying as Apple.

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windows 10 Professional, Sibelius 7.1.3 and 8.4

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Mike Lyons - 30 Sep 07:49PM

Oh, indeed, I agree, but I have other grudges against Apple. They will never, knowingly, get a penny of my money.
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Win 10 Pro, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.3 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC,
Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse.

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Re: Request for feature
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 02 Oct 11:22PM
> Although Windows 10 decided to update itself to the "anniversary edition" a couple days ago and it took almost an hour for the machine to boot up, with no explanation as to what was happening -- just a warning not to turn off the computer. Microsoft can be at least as annoying as Apple.
>
And you're luck if you didn't have to do a clean reinstall (reinstalling Windows plus all additional packages like Sibelius and sound libraries) because of the Win10 upgrade-in-place process causing major instabilities. Microsoft took some major backward steps with Win10.

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Patrick O'Keefe

Sib 7.5, GPO4, NotePerformer, lots of EWQL stuff
Win10 x64 Pro Intel i7-4771, 3.50Ghz, 16GB RAM

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Request for feature - bugbuster, 28 Sep 03:59PM
     Re: Request for feature - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Sep 06:01PM
         Re: Request for feature - Mark K Sealey, 28 Sep 06:19PM
             Re: Request for feature - Mike Lyons, 28 Sep 08:16PM
                 Re: Request for feature - Patrick O'Keefe, 28 Sep 08:59PM
                 Re: Request for feature - Ronald Pearl, 28 Sep 10:46PM
             Re: Request for feature - bugbuster, 28 Sep 08:26PM
     Re: Request for feature - bugbuster, 28 Sep 08:28PM
         Re: Request for feature - Andy G, 29 Sep 08:08AM
             Re: Request for feature - Ronald Pearl, 29 Sep 02:18PM
                 Re: Request for feature - Mark K Sealey, 29 Sep 02:42PM
                     Re: Request for feature - Adrian Drover, 29 Sep 02:50PM
                     Re: Request for feature - Robert Enns, 29 Sep 02:51PM
                         Re: Request for feature - Bob Morabito, 29 Sep 03:33PM
                             Re: Request for feature - Chris Crawley, 29 Sep 03:48PM
                                 Re: Request for feature - Robert Enns, 29 Sep 06:53PM
                     Re: Request for feature - Rob Tuley, 29 Sep 07:33PM
                         Re: Request for feature - Mike Lyons, 29 Sep 09:48PM
                             Re: Request for feature - Jeff Hale, 30 Sep 04:36PM
                                 Re: Request for feature - Mike Lyons, 30 Sep 07:49PM
                                 Re: Request for feature - Patrick O'Keefe, 02 Oct 11:22PM