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Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Rudy Wilson, 22 Jul 03:14PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Chris Crawley, 22 Jul 03:31PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Robin Walker, 22 Jul 04:41PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Patrick O'Keefe, 22 Jul 08:25PM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Peter Roos, 22 Jul 10:02PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Mike Lyons, 23 Jul 07:14AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Patrick O'Keefe, 23 Jul 06:17PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Rob Tuley, 23 Jul 06:52PM

Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Rudy Wilson - 22 Jul 03:14PM (edited 22 Jul 03:16PM)
Why does Sibelius take about 8 minutes to load sounds each time I open up a file? Irritating
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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Chris Crawley - 22 Jul 03:31PM
Details of your system would help us to comment, particularly how much RAM you have. Please give details as in my signature below.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Robin Walker - 22 Jul 04:41PM
> Why does Sibelius take about 8 minutes to load sounds each time I open up a file?

That suggests that either or both (a) the sample library is stored on a very slow disk device or connection, or (b) there is not enough RAM in the PC so that the system is driven into swapping virtual memory onto disk.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 22 Jul 08:25PM
My following comments apply only if you run Windows 10 (and probably not even then).

I had a problem that matches your very brief description after upgrading from Win7 to Win10. Instruments for a large orchestral score that had loaded in 35 seconds under Win7 were taking 5-6 minutes (from an SSD). Diagnostic tools showed that most of the time no I/O was taking place - Sibelius was just sitting waiting for the load to happen.

A clean reinstall of Win10 fixed it ... on that PC.

On another PC everything was fine after the Win10 upgrade until I had to do a clean reinstall for other reasons. The problem appeared *after* doing the clean reinstall. Same symptoms except that the original load time was a bit under 30 seconds (faster drive and processor than in the other PC.)

Nobody on this forum or on Win10 fora reported anything like this, but several people suggested upgrading drivers - always a good idea when installing Win10. It not only did no good, it made things worse; part way through the load the PC would hang up and have to be rebooted.

A 2nd clean reinstall of Win10 fixed the load problem - back to 30 seconds to load all instruments for a symphony orchestra.

No explanation for either of these PCs. All installations - update in place or clean - seemed ok. No errors reported.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Peter Roos - 22 Jul 10:02PM
Aside from technical glitches, in general I find that the built in Sibelius take (too) long to load, and Sibelius has an annoying habit of reloading and purging sounds if you go from one score to another, rather than just keeping everything in memory (to the extent possible, and assuming the computer has enough memory).

You might want to consider NotePerformer which (a) loads super fast, (b) does have this annoying loading / unloading behavior, (c) is very light on resources and (d) sounds remarkably well. And it's not expensive at all, I believe a little over $100.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Mike Lyons - 23 Jul 07:14AM
If you are creating music for larger ensembles, NP is great. It is my goto library for almost all of my music. Smaller ensembles have a few weaknesses, but nothing that can't be overcome.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 23 Jul 06:17PM
> If you are creating music for larger ensembles, NP is great. It is my goto library for almost all of my music. Smaller ensembles have a few weaknesses, but nothing that can't be overcome.
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I agree that NotePerformer is pretty good for large ensembles. I *don't* agree that the (not so) few weaknesses for solo instruments can be overcome.

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Patrick O'Keefe

Sib 7.5, GPO4, NotePerformer, lots of EWQL stuff
Win10 x64 Pro Intel i7-4771, 3.50Ghz, 16GB RAM
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Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds
Posted by Rob Tuley - 23 Jul 06:52PM (edited 23 Jul 06:53PM)
> And it's [NotePerformer] not expensive at all, I believe a little over $100.

Long ago I formulated the Fundamental Law of Sampling:

The solution to all known problems with the quality of playback from sample libraries is "buy another library".

It's basically the same business model used by drug dealers ;)

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Rob

Sib 4.1, Windows 10.
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Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Rudy Wilson, 22 Jul 03:14PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Chris Crawley, 22 Jul 03:31PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Robin Walker, 22 Jul 04:41PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Patrick O'Keefe, 22 Jul 08:25PM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Peter Roos, 22 Jul 10:02PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Mike Lyons, 23 Jul 07:14AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Patrick O'Keefe, 23 Jul 06:17PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: So long loading sounds - Rob Tuley, 23 Jul 06:52PM