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Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 26 Jun 02:48AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robert Enns, 26 Jun 02:52AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 26 Jun 02:59AM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 26 Jun 06:19AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 26 Jun 09:18AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 02 Jul 07:45PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 02 Jul 07:45PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 02 Jul 08:00PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 03 Jul 07:19AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 07:32AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 07:33AM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 03 Jul 09:11AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 12:26PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 12:31PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 03 Jul 12:55PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 03 Jul 01:09PM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 03 Jul 01:17PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 03 Jul 01:44PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Laurence Payne, 04 Jul 12:29AM

Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 26 Jun 02:48AM
I just activated Sibelius on my new computer, and can not get audio playback to work. Tips?

I have not downloaded Sibelius sounds because the 23 gig file is too big for my current storage. I didn't have that on my old computer though, and was able to use playback with the midi sounds. What can I do to get the midi sounds to work?

-Bethani

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Robert Enns - 26 Jun 02:52AM
I'm puzzled that a new computer can't accommodate 23 gigs more of data. What is the hard drive size?

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 26 Jun 02:59AM
The problem is more with internet speed - I am currently in Lebanon volunteering at a Syrian refugee camp and the file won't download. When I was in the states I spent a lot of time with my other computer trying to download the file and get it working so I could have better sounds for exporting audio and I was never successful. I decided not to go through all that this time. My old computer still had the terrible midi sounds though, so I'd like to at least get to that point with this machine.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 Jun 06:19AM (edited 26 Jun 06:19AM)
Is there an onboard sound chip on your new machine? There usually is.

Can you post screen shots of:

Audio engine Options and the Playback devices dialogs.

Could you also check that your soundcard is actually working?

If you don't have sib sounds, make sure you untick Use virtual instruments and effects.

Also, check that there is nothing else using your soundcard when Sib runs.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Robin Walker - 26 Jun 09:18AM
What version of operating system on the computer?

What "Playback Configuration" is selected in Sibelius?

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 02 Jul 07:45PM
I do have a sound card. It works for all other applications, but once I open Sibelius, nothing else will play sound either.

Where can I find the audio engine options and playback devices dialog? Under the "Play" Tab and "Configuration" Option, Midi (basic) is the only option, and it is selected.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 02 Jul 07:45PM
My computer is:

Dell Latitude E7240 Laptop Ultrabook Intel i5-4300U 8GB 128GB SSD 12.5" LED Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Robin Walker - 02 Jul 08:00PM
> Where can I find the audio engine options and playback devices dialog?

See attached graphic.

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Attachment Audio Engine Options.png (98K)

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Mike Lyons - 03 Jul 07:19AM
Sibelius is an audio hog! It will block other apps from using the soundcard - especially if it crashes or closes unexpectedly, as it can leave a copy of itself running in the background and even using ent task from the task manager can leave you waiting for many minutes before it shuts down.

At the moment, these dialogs are essential to help us to help you.



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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 03 Jul 07:32AM
Here's the screenshot. I unticked virtual instruments like you said. Now there's a bigger problem though - Sibelius shows an error message now as soon as I try to edit or add anything to a score.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 03 Jul 07:33AM
Attachment Sibelius screenshot.jpg (26K)

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Robin Walker - 03 Jul 09:11AM
There were no attachments. On this forum, attachments must be (a) of size less than 1 MByte, and (b) of type .png, .jpg, or .sib with the extension spelt in lower case.

Do not un-tick "Use virtual instruments and effects": your version of Sibelius will always crash if you un-tick it.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 03 Jul 12:26PM
Okay, I have ticked the virtual instruments and effects again. Here is a smaller file of the audio engine screen shot.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Bethani - 03 Jul 12:31PM
I am attempting to attach a 35KB jpg file, and it loads but doesn't show up once I press enter.
Attachment Sibelius screenshot.jpg (26K)

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Mike Lyons - 03 Jul 12:55PM (edited 03 Jul 01:07PM)
Use windows to take a snapshot of the screen, not your phone. I can hardly read it, but it does show that you have an ASIO driver selected. You must make sure this is the most up-to-date driver available.

The snipping tool is available at

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories

Can you take a snapshot showing the menu open so that we can see what other options are available? (like the attached)

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Robin Walker - 03 Jul 01:09PM (edited 03 Jul 01:23PM)
Almost certainly, you need to update the device drivers for the Realtek audio chip for compatibility with Windows 10. This cannot be done automatically in Windows Device Manager (ignore it if it says the drivers are up to date). If your PC manufacturer has installed a custom branded variant of the Realtek driver, then download and install the latest version of the Realtek driver from that manufacturer's support site. If the PC uses generic drivers for the Realtek, then go to http://www.realtek.com/ and follow the link "HD Audio Codec Driver", then download and install the latest version.

Edit: Actually, try the re-configuration in my next post before updating the device driver.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Robin Walker - 03 Jul 01:17PM
On another point, you have already said (a) that you have not installed the Sibelius 7 Sounds sample library, and (b) that you have Playback Configuration set to "General MIDI (Basic)".

You need to be aware that Playback Configuration "General MIDI (Basic)" (or, more generally, any Playback Configuration including the player "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth") is incompatible with any "ASIO" Interface selection in "Audio Engine Options".

That is precisely the trap that you have fallen into.

In your case, you need, in "Audio Engine Options" to make an Interface selection which does not involve "ASIO". For instance, an Interface which involves both "Realtek" and "(DS)" would be best.

It is also the case that making an "ASIO" Interface selection in Sibelius will cause all other applications to fall silent, as the ASIO driver for the Realtek permits only one client application to produce audio. You have observed this issue.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Mike Lyons - 03 Jul 01:44PM
> Do not un-tick "Use virtual instruments and effects": your version of Sibelius will always crash if you un-tick it.

Oops! Missed that - my bad!

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5
Posted by Laurence Payne - 04 Jul 12:29AM
Sibelius doesn't like having the Use virtual instruments box untucked, even if you aren't using any.

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Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 26 Jun 02:48AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robert Enns, 26 Jun 02:52AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 26 Jun 02:59AM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 26 Jun 06:19AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 26 Jun 09:18AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 02 Jul 07:45PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 02 Jul 07:45PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 02 Jul 08:00PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 03 Jul 07:19AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 07:32AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 07:33AM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 03 Jul 09:11AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 12:26PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Bethani, 03 Jul 12:31PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 03 Jul 12:55PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 03 Jul 01:09PM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Robin Walker, 03 Jul 01:17PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Mike Lyons, 03 Jul 01:44PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Playback in Sibelius 7.5 - Laurence Payne, 04 Jul 12:29AM