'Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?'

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Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument ... - Glen Shannon, 15 Jun 09:12PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Adrian Drover, 15 Jun 10:28PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 05:16PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 05:23PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Adrian Drover, 17 Jun 08:23PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 10:21PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 10:51PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Mike Lyons, 18 Jun 05:53AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Adrian Drover, 18 Jun 06:57AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Mike Lyons, 18 Jun 10:21PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 20 Jun 06:02PM

Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Glen Shannon - 15 Jun 09:12PM
Hi, the Great Bass Recorder is usually provided in both treble- and bass-clef parts, because that widens the availability. Not all Great Bass players can read C fingerings in bass clef and generally play it like it's just a large Tenor.

My question is, can I put the clef symbol right into the Instrument name in the File Info, so the clef can travel with and behave along with the rest of the instrument name?

Thanks for any insights,
Glen Shannon
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 15 Jun 10:28PM
Type "Great Bass Recorder &" or "Great Bass Recorder ?", then select the ampersand or query character and change its font to Opus. You may need to reduce them in size too.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Glen Shannon - 17 Jun 05:16PM
Beautiful!! What a great idea, thanks so much!
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Glen Shannon - 17 Jun 05:23PM
Whoops- now I need to detach the two parts from each other so changes to one aren't mirrored in the other...
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 17 Jun 08:23PM (edited 17 Jun 08:34PM)
I don't know what you mean by detach the parts. Do you have 2 recorders on the same part? You should start with a single instrument, create a new part as a duplicate of the first, make one treble clef and the other bass clef. You will no doubt need to make an octave transposition in one of the parts. And having looked at the instrument list, you will also need to create a new instrument for Great Bass Recorder TC, changing the octave transposition. See attached. Look in score info for each of the 2 parts for wildcards used in instrument names.
Attachment gt bs recorder.sib (37K)
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Glen Shannon - 17 Jun 10:21PM
Very cool technique with the wildcard codes! Thanks for sending the file.
Yes, that's exactly how I created the second part, as a clone of the first with a clef and transposition change.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Glen Shannon - 17 Jun 10:51PM
Very cool technique with the wildcard codes! Thanks for sending the file.
Yes, that's exactly how I created the second part, as a clone of the first with a clef and transposition change.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Mike Lyons - 18 Jun 05:53AM
The use of the copy and change instrument too in parts is really only for parts where the main difference is a transposition or clef. If there are differences in the notation (ie they don't always play the same pitches) it is better to have completely separate parts.

It isn't that much extra work to create a new staff and then triple click the original and [alt]click at the start of the new staff.

BTW, they are not wildcards, they are just the characters used for those symbols in the music font. A wildcard is quite a different animal!

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 18 Jun 06:57AM
But the codes for font change and font size in the part name field are listed under wildcards in the user manual. I know this, Mike, because that's where I found them.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Mike Lyons - 18 Jun 10:21PM
Mebbe, Adrian, but the actual characters for Bass clef and Treble clef are only characters in the music font.


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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument Name?
Posted by Glen Shannon - 20 Jun 06:02PM
Thanks all - that is my new approach rather than using the Parts tab to get that new part: to create the new instrument (Great Bass TC), add it to the score, triple-click the bass-clef music and alt-click to populate the new part. Focus on Staves to hide it in the score, and put in the special codes in the File Info. It works so much better, thanks for all the help.
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Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrument ... - Glen Shannon, 15 Jun 09:12PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Adrian Drover, 15 Jun 10:28PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 05:16PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 05:23PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Adrian Drover, 17 Jun 08:23PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 10:21PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 17 Jun 10:51PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Mike Lyons, 18 Jun 05:53AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Adrian Drover, 18 Jun 06:57AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Mike Lyons, 18 Jun 10:21PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Adding a clef symbol to Instrum... - Glen Shannon, 20 Jun 06:02PM