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Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 24 May 08:33AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Laurence Payne, 24 May 09:26AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Laurence Payne, 24 May 10:42PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 25 May 06:16AM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 25 May 07:16AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Steve, 25 May 07:47AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 25 May 08:22AM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Tony Wakefield, 25 May 08:54AM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Steve, 26 May 03:57AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 26 May 06:08AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 26 May 07:56AM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Laurence Payne, 26 May 09:49AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 26 May 01:47PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 26 May 09:16PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 27 May 07:54AM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 27 May 10:08PM

Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Adrian Drover - 24 May 08:33AM
Just had this thought while working on my current 7.1.3 score. Regarding independent rhythmic feel, does "straight mute" in staff text have any adverse effect on playback when in swing mode?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Laurence Payne - 24 May 09:26AM
It might, but the mechanism that does it is controllable.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Laurence Payne - 24 May 10:42PM
It might, but the mechanism that does it is controllable.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Mike Lyons - 25 May 06:16AM
Laurence is on a loop!

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Adrian Drover - 25 May 07:16AM
Is it ground hog day?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Steve - 25 May 07:47AM
And what the heck does any of this have to do with upgrade questions? This thread wins the bizarre cake.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Adrian Drover - 25 May 08:22AM (edited 25 May 08:34AM)
Well, Steve, it has everything to do with upgrading. I just wanted to know if using the word "straight" is going to be a hassle as it will have more than one meaning for playback purposes. I remember once being asked by a colleague why his score was getting quieter & quieter in playback until there was complete silence. I discovered that he was using "dim" in all his diminished chord symbols.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Tony Wakefield - 25 May 08:54AM
My dear Adrian, there`s a message for yea (if y`r interested) in `Chord Symbols & Slashes`, just in case y`forrrgot ta look a` any furrrther replies :)
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Steve - 26 May 03:57AM
> Well, Steve, it has everything to do with upgrading. I just wanted to know if using the word "straight" is going to be a hassle as it will have more than one meaning for playback purposes. I remember once being asked by a colleague why his score was getting quieter & quieter in playback until there was complete silence. I discovered that he was using "dim" in all his diminished chord symbols.

I didn't mean any harm - thought this was one of those joke posts. Is there any difference between your version of Sibelius and the latest in regard to playback? I guess this was your question?
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 May 06:08AM (edited 26 May 06:08AM)
I think 7.5 upwards allows individual staves to respond to 'swing' in techique text. Maybe you could fudge it by making "straight mute" a new entry in the dictionary and setting both straight and straight mute to be "whole word" in the dictionary.

Or, maybe, just create a new entry "Str. Mute"

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Adrian Drover - 26 May 07:56AM (edited 26 May 07:59AM)
So there is a possible problem with this then. Thanx, Mike. Laurence, what is your take on this?

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Posted by Steve - 26 May 03:57
I didn't mean any harm - thought this was one of those joke posts.
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No problem, Steve. I do tend to mix humour with serious business. I just can't help it, and there's no surgical treatment for it.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Laurence Payne - 26 May 09:49AM
What I said in my previous answer. There could be an issue, there will be a way around it. Maybe you'll have to settle for "St. Mute" instead of "Straight Mute".

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Adrian Drover - 26 May 01:47PM (edited 26 May 01:48PM)
Strange as it may seem, in 7.1.3, there is no inclusion of "straight mute" in the dictionary's staff text, yet "mute", "cup", "bucket" & "harmon" are all there.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 May 09:16PM (edited 27 May 04:47AM)
Is it likely that "mute" implies straight unless modified by "cup", "Harmon" etc? Being a tuba player I don't get called on much to mute so I wouldn't know. Most cornet players I know would just slap a straight mute in on seeing the word mute.

Actua;;y, my usual response to muste instructions is along the lines of " What? I've spent years learning how to play this goddess of instruments AND YOU WANT TO IT!!!!!?"

:-)

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Adrian Drover - 27 May 07:54AM
Yes, Mike, in classical and brass band schools, "mute" means straight. Brass bands are now becoming more adventurous with big band mute sounds, more so in the cornet & 'bone sections. I didn't know you were a tubist, Mike. I double occasionally on my Besson EEb Sovereign.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question
Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 May 10:08PM
I'm moving away from EEb towards Euph. I can no longer carry my bass easily and persistent and deteriorating neck problems are making it likely I'll be coming off it altogether in the not too distant future! 50 years of my life coming to an end. :-(

Onwards and upwards!

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Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 24 May 08:33AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Laurence Payne, 24 May 09:26AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Laurence Payne, 24 May 10:42PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 25 May 06:16AM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 25 May 07:16AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Steve, 25 May 07:47AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 25 May 08:22AM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Tony Wakefield, 25 May 08:54AM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Steve, 26 May 03:57AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 26 May 06:08AM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 26 May 07:56AM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Laurence Payne, 26 May 09:49AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 26 May 01:47PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 26 May 09:16PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Adrian Drover, 27 May 07:54AM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Upgrade question - Mike Lyons, 27 May 10:08PM