'How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?'

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How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of ... - music123, 30 Apr 03:16AM
     Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Richard Vitale, 30 Apr 04:35AM
         Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - music123, 30 Apr 05:43AM
             Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Richard Vitale, 30 Apr 06:20AM
                 Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Bob Zawalich, 30 Apr 11:32AM
                     Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Dave P-B, 30 Apr 12:43PM
                         Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Laurence Payne, 30 Apr 01:37PM
                             Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - music123, 30 Apr 07:08PM
                                 Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Richard Vitale, 30 Apr 08:04PM
                                 Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - music123, 02 May 01:12AM
                         Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Bob Zawalich, 30 Apr 10:18PM

How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by music123 - 30 Apr 03:16AM (edited 30 Apr 03:38AM)
The "Hide Empty Staves" function won't hide empty staves on the first page of a score. I realize that normally the first page of a score shows all instruments used in the score, but I am writing an opera and want to hide all the empty vocal staves on the first page of the orchestra score, as well as in the vocal score.

The only way to do this seems to be to use the "Change Instrument" function and change the first half dozen or so of the vocal measures into No Instrument (Hidden). This works but makes showing empty measures rather cumbersome later in the score. If I choose a passage for showing empty measures all of the vocal staves are labelled "[No instrument (hidden)]" which makes it difficult to figure out which is which when there are a lot of voices involved. If this is the only way to do it, then it there a way to add a name in front of the hidden staff at the beginning of the score?

Any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

(I am using Sibelius 8.2 on Windows 10)
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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Richard Vitale - 30 Apr 04:35AM (edited 30 Apr 04:36AM)
I'm having no issue hiding staves in the 1st page of a score using Hide Empty Staves.

When you use Hidden Instrument Change plugin for the 1st few bars of a piece, use it in the Part, not the Score, and it'll retain the real instrument name and won't read "[No instrument (hidden)]".

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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by music123 - 30 Apr 05:43AM
Richie:

Thanks for the very quick reply! After reading your comments I got rid of the hidden instrument bits and tried a couple of things. I'm not sure what's going on now. I have two scores which will eventually be spliced together to form the beginning of Act 5. (I haven't written the music that goes between the two parts yet.) I tried using Hide Staves in the second score (which I hadn't tried before) and it worked with absolutely no problems: the empty staves do not appear on the first page in the full score, the conductor score, or the vocal score. When I tried this again with the first score, however; it didn't work: the empty staves show up in all but the vocal score, which suggests that there might be a setting somewhere that I've messed up. It's almost 11:00 pm here so I think I'll give it up and try again tomorrow. Thanks again for your help.

Robin
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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Richard Vitale - 30 Apr 06:20AM
OK, if you still have problems attach the score (or the 1st couple pages after COPYING the score) of the first score.

You can always use the plugin Make Pitches Constant if you're worried about copyright issues.

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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 30 Apr 11:32AM

or download the plug-in to skies score which will randomize text and pitches and get rid of any extra versions. It was designed so you could post a score without giving anything away.
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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Dave P-B - 30 Apr 12:43PM
I think Bob is referring to Disguise Score plug-in (which Bob wrote - location attached).

Though I would love to see what the "to skies" plug-in does.

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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 30 Apr 01:37PM
Use this ingenious plugin if secrecy is necessary. If not, don't. It doesn't make it EASIER to detect problems!
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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by music123 - 30 Apr 07:08PM
Problem solved! After I went to bed last night I suddenly realized what the problem was. The first thirteen measures are in 3/4 except for three of the instruments which are in 6/8. The time signature is hidden and I used text objects for the time signatures. Once I deleted the text objects attached to the empty staves, the empty staves went away.

Although I have used Sibelius for many years, this is the first time I have used this forum. I was pleasantly surprised at how many people quickly offered helpful suggestions. Thank you to all of you!

Robin
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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Richard Vitale - 30 Apr 08:04PM
Happy to have you aboard . . . (from all of us :-)

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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by music123 - 02 May 01:12AM
Thanks to all.

Robin
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Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of a score?
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 30 Apr 10:18PM
I should never send email from my phone...

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How do I hide empty staves at the beginning of ... - music123, 30 Apr 03:16AM
     Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Richard Vitale, 30 Apr 04:35AM
         Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - music123, 30 Apr 05:43AM
             Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Richard Vitale, 30 Apr 06:20AM
                 Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Bob Zawalich, 30 Apr 11:32AM
                     Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Dave P-B, 30 Apr 12:43PM
                         Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Laurence Payne, 30 Apr 01:37PM
                             Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - music123, 30 Apr 07:08PM
                                 Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Richard Vitale, 30 Apr 08:04PM
                                 Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - music123, 02 May 01:12AM
                         Re: How do I hide empty staves at the beginning... - Bob Zawalich, 30 Apr 10:18PM