'* How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit'

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* How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - cminor7th, 01 Feb 11:14PM
     Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - Adrian Drover, 02 Feb 08:47AM
         Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - Adrian Drover, 02 Feb 05:24PM
             Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - cminor7th, 05 Feb 07:43PM

* How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit
Posted by cminor7th - 01 Feb 11:14PM (edited 18 Feb 11:03PM)
R.Vaughan Williams Symphony 2 has harps scored using an abbreviated (?) notation for part of the bar (which continues in a similar manner for several measures) - how would one score this to make it reflect the original and play back correctly? (Note: this is in 2/2)

I could find nothing in this forum or the reference manual.

I do know about and use the Glissando plug-in, but how to notate this correctly and make it work rhythmically has me stumped.

Any suggestion?

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Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit
Posted by Adrian Drover - 02 Feb 08:47AM (edited 02 Feb 08:47AM)
Yes after the first 7 notes (which the harpist needs to know for pedal setting) select the remainder of notes, then goto Notations/Noteheads/Type and select Headless/Stemless. You may have to create a new notehead style for this. I don't think it's shipped as default, but it's quite easy to add.
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Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit
Posted by Adrian Drover - 02 Feb 05:24PM (edited 02 Feb 05:31PM)
PS. Actually, Sib is not ready for this. When you make the notes stemless the beams get broken. I managed to fake a play right, look right version [see attached]. First you need to write the playable gliss (involving tuplet ratios) in voice 2 and hide it. Then you write the viewable gliss in voice 1, hiding unwanted rests, juggling around with note spacing and killing play on pass. Also the treble clef is fake (from symbols cue size) as a regular clef doesn't work with cross-staff notes. I don't know if you want to spend the time on this. I've also attached a sib7.1.3 file with the actual workings.
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Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit
Posted by cminor7th - 05 Feb 07:43PM
Thank you for the excellent example - it does seem to work but it might be easier for me to just enter the whole thing manually for now - NotePerformer can handle the playback either way. If I ever need to do something similar for a live performer, I'll have your example tucked away in my ideas library.

Thanks again.

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* How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - cminor7th, 01 Feb 11:14PM
     Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - Adrian Drover, 02 Feb 08:47AM
         Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - Adrian Drover, 02 Feb 05:24PM
             Re: How to notate abbreviated harp and make it fit - cminor7th, 05 Feb 07:43PM