First of all, Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it.
I have a question about the "Staff Type". I know how to choose the various sounds, but if I choose a Hi-Hat cymbal and click on the "Okay" button, where does this sound go? Am I supposed to go to "Edit Instrument" page?
If anyone is familiar or expert in notating drum staves, your help would be most appreciated.
You use the Edit Instrument page to add or change the sounds available on your drum staff.
The staff you have chosen in your image is a brush set. This means that it will use the brush sounds from sib 7 sounds but also be aware that, just because it says a particular sound is available, that does not mean it will play back. If the drum staff you are using contains sounds from more than one drum patch (and they often seem to do so) some of the sounds may not playback.
If you are editing the sounds, you need to make sure that you use the same drum patch. We had a chat about some of this a little while ago, if I remember correctly. Can you dig out some of the images I sent you?
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I think Mimi might be trying to edit the wrong instrument. There are about 20 different drum sets. Klik on the drum staff *before* you go to 'Edit Instrument'. This will auto select the drum set you need to edit.
1. Click on the drum staff in the score and select something (note, bar)
2. Click on Home and then Instruments (using the little icon in the bottom right corner of the Instruments section. (See image 1)
3. Although it isn't very clear (certainly on my screen) the top of each column is selected (the background is slightly grey) Click on the top item in the 3rd column anyway (Drum Set (Rock)). (Image 2)
4. Click on Edit instrument.
5. Click on Edit Staff Type (image 3)
6. Click any notehead of the same type as the one you want to add and then click New. (image 4)
7. Click on the staff. Your notehead will go on the staff in some apparently random position, but it will be highlighted!
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Mimi,
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing. I was not involved in your last drum question.
"Can you please tell me how you choose drum sounds for your scores?"
If I understand this question, here is my answer. If I am making a tune with rock instruments, I select those instrument from the Add Instruments dialogue when I create the score. Electric guitar, electric bass, some kind of keyboard, and rock drum set. In the mixer, I change the electric guitar to distortion guitar. Since the balance on drum sets is not good, I actually add the drum set three times. One for kick drum, one for snare and toms, and one for cymbals. That way I can control the volume of each one. This would be for playback only. A score for real players would not be done this way. In an orchestral setting, again I choose orchestral percussion from the list as I set up the score. The only time I've ever used Edit Instruments is when I needed the bass sound for the cajon, or to change the pitch of the congas. And it's been so long since I did those things that I'm sure I don't remember how I did it. I understand that there are all kinds of things one can do with drum mapping. One of which would be adjusting the volume of the drums in a kit. but I'm no expert in any of that. Which is why I asked why you seem to use edit instruments to choose drum sounds.
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That is a good idea to add an instrument 3 times to achieve a better balance.
Someone else in the Forum suggested that I use the "Edit Staff Type" where you choose the sounds; this is where my problem is, but I may follow your lead and avoid the "Edit Staff Type" diagram.
I'm sure that in orchestral or any playing that involves more than 1 or 2 people, everyone has their own part. Only the conductor or band leader would have a score with everything written out.
I'm sure that in orchestral or any playing that involves more than 1 or 2 people, everyone has their own part. Only the conductor or band leader would have a score with everything written out.
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This depends on how involved is the percussion element. If it's not too involved a single multi-percussion part is good for every player. This helps each player to follow the road map. Or for instruments that are playing all or most of the time (such as rhythm section), separate parts are better.
I can't remember which famous musician said this: "Percussion is most effective in inverse proportion to how much it is used", but it does make a whole lot of sense in the case of orchestral decoration, tho' it does not apply when percussion is the driving force of the music.
> I'm sure that in orchestral or any playing that involves more than 1 or 2 people, everyone has their own part. Only the conductor or band leader would have a score with everything written out.
Adrian, Sometimes it`s better to put all the percussion instruments onto one part, essentially a percussion `score`, (perhaps with the exception of the timpani - s/he doesn`t wander about the full compliment in the percussion village). The part would then be photocopied several times, then placed onto several music stands, and the players themselves would decide who plays what.
Choosing the drum parts can be confusing. If Sibelius comes out with a new program in the future that eliminates a lot of the confusion and questions regarding percussion and how to choose each part, that would be great.
I wasn't able to find who made the quote either, but it leaving out percussion from arrangements when needed, would be like an organist NOT using the pedals. I know, because I play the organ. Granted, there are some pieces written for manuals only, but most of the time, organ music contains the pedal line.
If it's needed, Mimi, by all means use it. I'm just saying that a score can be marred by using too much percussion and too often. Only you, the arranger-composer, can be the judge of good taste.
I will just choose my percussion instruments from the Add Instrument Diagram. Some people in the Forum know how to use the "Edit Staff Type" page, but I find it somewhat difficult; I would have to have someone talk me through it.
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