Actually Sibelius 8.0.1.
I installed Scorch 620b89 in Mac 10.11.1 Safari 9.0.1. But when I open a Scorch .htm, it just shows a blank screen saying to download Scorch. Cmd-Click shows no version. Scorch worked ok on previous Mac and Safari versions. When I open the .htm in Firefox 41.0, it shows "Activate Sibelius Scorch" and works ok. How can I get Scorch to work in Safari? (Also posted this on sibeliusforum.com)
In general, Scorch is doomed, as browsers withdraw support for the browser-plugin architecture that Scorch relies upon. You should not invest much effort or time making Scorch do something that you want to rely upon for the future.
I don't know what the Safari 9 issue is. Is there a white-list of plugins to which you need to add Scorch?
--
Sibelius 8.0.1/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 8.0.4, Dolet 6.4 for Sibelius, Windows 7 32-bit SP1 4GB, Windows 8.1 64-bit 16GB.
Safari Preferences / Security / Internet Plus-Ins for Scorch is enabled. No help. Hope that Avid will update Scorch to the latest, greatest plug-in architecture
I PhotoScore music that our chorus sings, emphasize each part (SATB), and distribute the Scorch for each part to the chorus. It's great for learning the music. Doesn't compare with trying to learn from midi files.
> How sad. The cloud publishing plan as described won't help me to help my fellow choristers.
Hi Kenneth,
Scorch is based on NPAPI and ActiveX, both of which have been being phased out by modern internet browsers for some months now. We haven't got plans to update it since, as Robin points out, modern web applications have moved on in terms of the underlying technology on which they rely.
I'd be interested to know more about why Sibelius | Cloud Publishing won't work for you - can you elaborate a bit?
Hi Joe,
I PhotoScore printed music that our chorus purchases, edit it with PS to get the correct number of staves throughout (many scores start with just piano or organ staves, add and subtract soloist staves at various points, add and subtract chorus parts staves at various points (sometimes splitting a part into 2 for, e.g., Tenor 1 and Tenor 2). Then edit with Sibelius to correct OCR errors from PS (takes lots of time comparing the printed score with the Sibelius). For each staff that contains 2 parts (e.g., some composers put both Tenor 1 and Tenor 2 notes in a single staff), I create a new staff, copy the original staff into the new staff, and then, e.g., in the Tenor 1 staff, delete the T2 notes, and in the T2 staff, delete the T1 notes). Finally, I use Sibelius Mixer to make each chorus part louder in turn, saving each part's file into Scorch files. Then I distribute the Scorch for each part to the appropriate part chorus members. It's great for learning the music for those of us who don't play piano (and the once-a-week chorus rehearsal is never enough for challenging music). I originally bought PS and Sibelius to help myself learn the music (I don't play piano). Then found that I could help lots of others learn their parts. Every person buys their own sheet music (through the chorus), so the composer and publisher get their fair share.
I have a similar process to you, creating MIDI and MP3 files, too. I've not investigated the Cloud scenario yet.
But there's one way to speed part of your procedure up: use Bob Z's "Rehearsal Recordings" plugin to create the appropriate files for each of your voice parts. At the click of one button it will create .aiff (or .wav) and also .sib files of each of your parts. Then at a second click you can create all your Scorch files.
Hope that helps a little,
JohnF
--
Music Editor / Engraver
Sib.v.7.5.1; user since Acorn Sib7; Photoscore Ultimate 8.0.4; GPO4.02
MacOS X Yosemite 10.10.1; iMac Retina 5K 4 GHz Intel Core i7; 24 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
I am also a long term Sibelius user (from at least v. 3 or 4) whose primary use is to build choral practice tools for my fellow choristers in several groups. We have relied upon browser plugins using the NetScape API to enable our members to rehearse their parts with a facsimile of the score and replay/slow-down the entire score (not just a sample first page) to work on parts that are particularly difficult.
I've seen nothing in the "cloud publishing" pages that points a path towards how I might be able to continue to use Sibelius for this primary path. Some of our more affluent members have managed to obtain iPads to use the Avid Scorch app there, but most have relied on the website I build, wherein I construct multiple copies of the existing .htm/.sib pairs, two per part (one soloing the part; one excluding the part, so-called "karaoke mode) plus a few more links, for the iPad download, to hear all parts and a full page version. There is some work involved for me to generate all the parts, but I've automated some parts of the process, and it's worked for years.
Joe, Sam, I recognize the passing of NSAPI has forced you to make some choices, and when I first investigated this issue last August when the music director for a show I do in Portland every year reported that Scorch wasn't working in Chrome. I saw the state of the transition, and the promises that were being made to "educators" (I think my use most closely matches their use) that despite the apparent focus only music publishing as the only end-case for "cloud publishing" that other mechanisms would appear. I went back to our show, which concluded in December, and now I'm back, preparing for another season with another group, pondering whether I should upgrade to Sibelius 8.01 (I'm an 7.5.1 user on a Mac, so I don't see much impetus)
And I'm wondering where the other schemas for "cloud publishing" are. I see little or nothing new in the forum since I last checked, in August. What should I be doing here? Limping along with the browsers that still support NSAPI and urge those that can to buy iPads? Or is this lack of progress just another symptom of the whole underwhelming 8.0 upgrade issue?
How am I supposed to proceed with browser-based Scorch still in its death spiral? Do I have to worry about Avid Scorch on the iPad? What would you have us do?
I see that Avid is advertising the new Cloud Publishing Scorch http://www.avid.com/sibelius-cloud-publishing . Does Avid care about us who used the (non-purchase music store) Scorch model described in the thread above?
I notice that Scorch 6.2 now works in MacOS 10.12.3 Safari 10.0.3! Whoopee! The Scorch files were produced by Sibelius 8.5.1 File / Export / Scorch Web Page (not Avid Scorch).
edit, so it does, seems very strange that, must be apples doing and not avid, as avid do not want to develop the platform any more, i notice firefox will still use it.
I'm still using mavericks but i booted into sierra on my portable drive and it works like a charm thanks for the heads up!
--
macbook pro i7 non retina 2.9ghz 16gb ram 10.9.5 1TB SSD boot drive, 2tb storage drive on mavericks
sib 6.2.0 and sib 7.1.3 and 7.5.1 8.4
old macbook thingy! el capitan test computer with sibelius 6 7.1 7,5 (8 demo) and note performer.
sibelius choral and garitan personal orchestra.
(aria 4). east west symphonic east west symphonic orchestra with johnathan loving sound sets photoscore 7.2. note performer
musescore noteworthy melody assistant and virtual singer.
