You've got two Piano staves and a Clarinet stave throughout, plus an ossia stave (which you've hidden) above the piano starting at bar 9. The only instrument with any notes so far is the Piano.
Excuse me! I didn't realize that I had left out the clarinet notation. This copy has it. I want the clarinet sound to start in Meas. 13 (see highlighting).
The piece is not complete, but I need to know how the playing should start.
> Laurence,
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> Excuse me! I didn't realize that I had left out the clarinet notation. This copy has it. I want the clarinet sound to start in Meas. 13 (see highlighting).
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> The piece is not complete, but I need to know how the playing should start.
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> Thanks for your help.
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> Mimi
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So have a piano instrument and a clarinet instrument, write notes where you want them. Which is what you appear to have done successfully.
The ossia stave above the piano is still there, though hidden. Was that part of a mistaken idea that a new instrument could be created half-way through the score, rather than created at the outset then hidden until needed?
Listen to the attached version. Do you prefer the rhythmic playback? Straight 8s plus a "Swing" indication is a normal way of writing a blues feel. (Please don't use that horrible "metric modulation" notation. It's just for academics who are frightened of "popular" styles.)
Posted by Laurence Payne - 21 Nov 11:04
(Please don't use that horrible "metric modulation" notation. It's just for academics who are frightened of "popular" styles.)
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Like Leonard Bernstein in West Side Story ;-) Heck I found that show so difficult to sight read in the quasi swing bits.
> Posted by Laurence Payne - 21 Nov 11:04
> (Please don't use that horrible "metric modulation" notation. It's just for academics who are frightened of "popular" styles.)
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> Like Leonard Bernstein in West Side Story ;-) Heck I found that show so difficult to sight read in the quasi swing bits.
And, from the TV documentary on recording that peculiar operatic version with Jose Carreras as an incongrously Hispanic Tony, we discover that however you write it, the strings can't swing!
This, indicated in the attached screenshot, is what Sibelius labels a "metric modulation". It's sometimes used to indicate a Swing feel by writers who find simply writing "Swing" uncomfortable. Lord knows why!
I think I know what you're saying and let me see if I understood it correctly; are you saying that the clarinet part should have been written with dotted 16th and 8th notes? Like the piano part? I just wrote the clarinet part with regular 8th notes as an experiment to make sure it would play. Also, I didn't want everything sounding the same, as far as the "swing" feeling goes.
Posted by Laurence Payne - 21 Nov 23:06
Dotted 8ths and 16ths are too stilted. Triplets are laborious. But Sibelius (and musicians) knows what "Swing" means.
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Actually, musicians (that is, jazz musicians) know better what swing means than does Sibelius. And writing a mathematical conversion instruction doesn't help those musicians who've never heard swing played, and annoys those musicians who are natural swingers.
Regarding playback, I would very much appreciate a plug-in that makes "swing" more legato. I don't know if this has improved any in 7.5 or 8, but in 7.1.3, the first 8th of each pair is too short in duration. I seem to remember it being better in pre-7.1.3 versions.
The mathematical effect of Swing is visible, and editable, in the Playback dictionary. And I think Adrian prefers the same external sound device with either version?
> The mathematical effect of Swing is visible, and editable, in the Playback dictionary. And I think Adrian prefers the same external sound device with either version?
May I ask if anybody on Earth has actually calculated precisely what the default mathematical break-down is, so that it can be calibrated into Sibelius, with further advice and defaults on what the variances, i.e. "hot rhythm 1910"; Charleston `20s; Imperial & Royal Dance tempi/swing; Big band; small combo; Be-bop; Trad Jazz; Aleatoric crap might be?
Answers please in any of the following:
C. C++. C#. D. Objective-C. Alef. Limbo. Go. Vala.
I just typed "swing" over the top of my clarinet line, and it works perfectly fine.
As for mathematical break-downs, I'm no math genius. Aleatoric is an interesting word; just learned it from you today, and Googled it. I have some idea what it is now.
> As for mathematical break-downs, I'm no math genius. Aleatoric is an interesting word; just learned it from you today, and Googled it. I have some idea what it is now.
"Aleatoric" can mean a different thing each time you use it :-)
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