Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by kbundies - 28 Oct 08:33AM (edited 28 Oct 08:36AM) Hide picture [url]https://www.avid.com/US/Partners/sibelius-cloud-publishing#overview what does this exactly mean? If Scorch has been abandoned, do I need a special version of Sibelius to generate these files? It is not quite clear to me. Has this been discussed before? -- Sibelius 8.0.1 on Mac OSX 10.10.5 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Roy Moore - 28 Oct 09:34AM Hide picture If you search this forum using: poster -'Sam' key word 'scorch' as wildcards since 2014 You'll see several threads dating back to the beginning of last year. -- Roy Moore London UK (2015) Sib 7.5,8.0.1-Win 10 pro x64 8gb ram,512gb SSD Laptop Win 10-32gb ram 512 ssd 750 hd Various East West, Hollywood Strings Gold, Note Performer Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 19 Jan 07:43AM Hide picture Any answer yet for us who are not song publishers but have a clientele to whom we want to distribute music (for rehearsal/practice) in a manner similar to Scorch? If NSAPI is a think of the past and cloud publishing is the answer, where are the details? I am not interested in sharing the first pages of songs with an interest in selling them. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 19 Jan 06:47PM Hide picture Hi Robert, We're planning on pulling Sibelius | Cloud Publishing and Sibelius into a tighter integration in a future release of Sibelius. For now, Sibelius | Cloud Publishing is supporting our commercial publishers only. Please let me know if you have any questions. Joe -- Joe Pearson | Product Designer | Sibelius www.sibelius.com, @joeapearson, joe.pearson@avid.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 25 Jan 01:03AM Hide picture Thanks for the update, but unfortunately it was nearly content free. Yes, one would hope that you're coming to an update that provides tighter integration--in fact ANY integration--of cloud publishing with Sibelius to answer all the promises that I've seen made on this forum. I know companies don't like to give out schedules in advance, but we've been out on this limb for nearly a year now. It would be nice to know that it's not dead. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 29 Jan 06:20PM Hide picture 'Sib. 6.x: SibeliusScorch plugin by Avid not working in latest Chrome update.' http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=674482&groupid=3& Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 31 Jan 07:42PM Hide picture Thanks, Venancio. I'm aware of that thread. I've contributed to that thread, but the last update from anyone with any fresh info was last July, and as I'm working on materials that might be considered for our next season, I have to say the lack of encouraging feedback over the last six months has only made me increasingly nervous about what the future may hold and what the groups that use my choral practice tools will do in the coming year, if they can't all afford their own iPads. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Fraser Sims - 01 Feb 08:34AM Hide picture Even if they can afford ipads, scorch ios 1.2 was last updated in august 2013 and with recent ios updates, parts of scorch are starting to break, such as tempo adjustment slider isnt visible, you just have to trust it works. Not to mention the bits us performing musicians have been crying out for. Converting to music xml seems to be the only way forward in those instances where pdfs are not enough. -- Fraser Sims G7 on XP, Sibelius 7.1.3 on 10.6.8, and the slightly buggy scorch 1.2 on iOS and the truly excellent forScore Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Hayden-Gilbert - 08 Mar 08:40AM Hide picture Very sorry to see the death of Scorch. It was brilliant for education. -- MacBook Air 1.6 Ghz Intel Core i5. OS 10.9.5 4Gb 1333 Mhz DDR3 RAM, Sibelius 7.1.3 http://www.original-works.co.uk, http://ibegin.info Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 18 Mar 12:32AM Hide picture I can understand the death of the browser plugin with the passage of NSAPI, but letting Avid Scorch on the iPad get decrepit, not responding to Forum queries after nearly a year after such promises that our part of their customer base would not be forgotten, the lack of any attempt or announcement of reimplementation in HTML 5, I truly am starting to feel like a forgotten member of the Sibelius client base. Where are all the forum stars from Sibelius who used to answer our questions and give us some hope that our needs are being attended to? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Rob Tuley - 18 Mar 08:56PM Hide picture > I truly am starting to feel like a forgotten member of the Sibelius client base. Get over it. The easiest way is to stop kidding yourself that "the Sibelius client base" even exists any more (except for fools who are soon parted from their money, of course). > Where are all the forum stars from Sibelius who used to answer our questions and give us some hope that our needs are being attended to? I think most of them are working for Steinberg these days. (See http://blog.steinberg.net/ if you've lost track of the news over the past few years) -- Rob Sib 4.1, Windows 7. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Fraser Sims - 27 Mar 09:20PM Hide picture on the scorch for iOs forum, a paid app that was last updated in august 2013, users are now reporting that not only are there errors introduced as the ios is updated, but that it doesnt work with sib 8 files. When are we going to get a joined up file sharing solution which works with current software, operating systems and sib versions? Avid clearly see the financial advantages working with publishing companies, though i am not sure how many publishers have adopted it. But what about the educational, non profit, composers, choir masters and other non commercial users? -- Fraser Sims G7 on XP, Sibelius 7.1.3 on 10.6.8, and the slightly buggy scorch 1.2 on iOS 9 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 27 Mar 10:26PM Hide picture Practically speaking, our audience for Scorch files had to install the Scorch Plugin. Get them to install the demo version of Sibelius instead. Not ideal or elegant. But it will work. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Steve - 28 Mar 02:29AM Hide picture Unless you are trying to view scores on an iPad. -- Sibelius 7.1.3, iMac - Snow Leopard 2016. http://ComposersofSibelius.com Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Fraser Sims - 28 Mar 09:59AM (edited 28 Mar 10:28AM) Hide picture Laurence, Scorch for ios is a paid for app for running on ipads. Unfortunately the user has sib 8 but cant run the scores on the ipad. It is still available on the app store but hasnt been updated since aug 2013 so every ios update breaks another bit of it (adjusting tempo sliders now invisible). But now, it doesnt support the latest sib file format either. Lots of hype about avid everywhere but reality is use pdf or musicXML. Currently i am lucky and not forced to upgrade and sticking with what i have but it would be good for avid to actually deliver rather than let what we had which met our needs and was a USP die with no indication that we are going to get a usable replacement unless we are a big corporate publishing company. -- Fraser Sims G7 on XP, Sibelius 7.1.3 on 10.6.8, and the slightly buggy scorch 1.2 on iOS 9 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 28 Mar 06:38PM Hide picture So far I have not had any noticeable problems using the iPad "Avid Scorch" app, but as our rehearsal season is just starting up, I'll have more experience with it in the coming weeks. As far as the IOS app and Sibelius versions, I was under the impression that Avid Scorch suffered the same limitations as the browser Scorch, requiring Sibelius 6 format files to work. I have not upgraded to Sibelius 8 (currently at 7.5.1) but had already redesigned my workflow to separate the Sib 7 and Sib 6 files, which I was generating in Sib 7 using the Export >> Avid Scorch function, which I'm under the impression generates Sib 6 files. If Sibelius 8 has removed this feature from their function set, then I definitely will NOT be upgrading. -- Robert Reed Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 28 Mar 07:22PM Hide picture >If Sibelius 8 has removed this feature from their function set, then I definitely will NOT be upgrading. It's still there. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Noel Fidge - 12 May 03:44AM Hide picture Well there's still Bob, Robin, Laurence for example and many others who remain frequent contributors and answer questions. May they never leave us! -- Noel Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Hans Nel - 20 Jun 08:36AM Hide picture > Well there's still Bob, Robin, Laurence for example and many others who remain frequent contributors and answer questions. > May they never leave us! > > -- > Noel It will be interesting what the chess-board will look like by the end of the year, -- Intel i7 3.60GHz , 16Gig DDR3 Ram,2 X SSD's, 64bit OS (Windows 10), Sibelius 8, StaffPad, Notion 5, Finale 2011, Encore, MuseScore 2, Studio One 3, Sonar X3, EWQLSO Platinum, EWQL S. Choirs, QL Spaces, NotePerformer & EDIROL Orchestra waiting eagerly to add Steinberg to this list. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Hayden-Gilbert - 25 Jan 02:53AM Hide picture Can you give us any idea when Cloud Publishing will become available for general public use, please? If there's a Scorch for iPad, why can we not have a Scorch for Mac and Windows? -- MacBook Air 1.6 Ghz Intel Core i5. OS 10.9.5 4Gb 1333 Mhz DDR3 RAM, Sibelius 7.1.3 http://www.original-works.co.uk, http://ibegin.info Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 30 Jan 10:47AM Hide picture Avid Scorch for iOS was written in a way that can't be re-used for either Win or Mac, so anything new would have to be done from scratch. It was also before the invention of Sibelius Cloud Publishing so we'd likely use this more modern technology in the future. If you or anyone else would like to help us beta test a new solution to replace Scorch, please get in touch directly and I'll add you to the list. Sam -- Sam Butler | Product Manager | Sibelius sam.butler@avid.com | @avid_sam | @AvidSibelius Contact the Sibelius support team: www.sibelius.com/documents/contact_form.html KB and other resources: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Kai Struck - 03 Feb 12:22PM Hide picture Wow, that sounds great! If not already can you please add me to the list!? -- Windows7 Pro, Lubuntu 15.10, Sibelius 7.1.3, LibreOffice 4.4.7, OpenOffice 4.1.2 Free Project: LibreOffice Songbook Architect (LOSA) http://struckkai.blogspot.de/2015/04/libreofficesongbookarchitect.html SVG-Tools: http://struckkai.blogspot.com/2016/02/svg-tools.html Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Kenneth Winiecki - 04 Apr 11:48PM Hide picture At the cost of repeating myself in several threads: Scorch 6.2.0 now works with Safari 10.1 in MacOS 10.12.4 (Sierra). Works with Sibelius 8 export files. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Rob Tuley - 05 Apr 09:37AM Hide picture > At the cost of repeating myself in several threads: Scorch 6.2.0 now works with Safari 10.1 in MacOS 10.12.4 (Sierra). And on the same day, Apple have admitted they screwed up over the design of the MacBook Pro, leaving it with very limited upgrade capability (and very few upgrades in the three years since they built it). And guess what Apple's solution is - learn nothing from the past (going right back to when they finally were forced to pull the plug on the PowerPC chip and build PCs the same way as everybody else did!) and start developing even more proprietary hardware to try to work round the problem. Still, I guess the fanboys (and girls) won't get the message till Apple finally admit they are only a mobile phone company. Except that their market share of mobile phones is going downhill as well.... -- Rob Sib 4.1, Windows 10. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 15 Sep 12:03PM Hide picture It seems to be happening. Or 'real soon now' at least! "How do I get Sibelius | Cloud Sharing? As it will be part of the upcoming Version 8.7 software update, Sibelius | Cloud Sharing will be available at no charge to anyone with a current Sibelius or Sibelius | First subscription or upgrade plan (as well as all new customers) . Note that Sibelius and Sibelius | First will have slightly different sharing entitlements. Sibelius | First will enable you to share up to 20 scores at any one time, while Sibelius will allow you to share an unlimited number of scores up to 1GB of storage on our cloud platform. All the assets we store are compressed, so you’ll need to share a good number of large scores before reaching this limit. If your subscription or upgrade plan lapses, the scores that you’ve shared will remain available online where they have been posted, but you will not be able to share any new scores until you renew your support contract or subscription. The Dashboard will be available regardless, so you would still be able to share your URLs and retrieve embed code. As soon as the subscription or upgrade plan is renewed, you will again be able to share new scores." Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Peter Roos - 15 Sep 12:07PM Hide picture Today, September 9, 2017, Sibelius 8.7 was announced, with Sibelius Cloud publishing integrated into Sibelius itself. See Philip Rothman's blog for more details: https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/sibelius-8-7-will-feature-online-sharing-scores-cloud-sharing-service/ -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Mike Lyons - 16 Sep 07:29AM Hide picture I'm really, really, deeply, truly not interested in this. I would much rather they fixed the stuff they have broken that used to work well and stop breaking more stuff. -- Win 10 Pro x64, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.6.1 NotePerformer, GPO4 & 5, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC, Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 16 Sep 11:16AM (edited 16 Sep 11:17AM) Hide picture This WAS something that used to work well, before Scorch became outdated and unsupported by the major web browsers. Which, for once, wasn't Avid's fault. There seems to be a limit on the free version. Composers won't be able to present their entire catalogue for free. But a lot of us will find it useful to once again be able to share e.g. rehearsal tracks with people who don't own Sibelius. I'm assuming there's no deal-breaker in the small print. Or that it won't be like the Export to YouTube function that worked for a bit then broke. We don't have high expectations of Avid, do we? :-) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Mike Lyons - 16 Sep 03:33PM Hide picture Unfortunately, Laurence, we do not. It's what happens when disappointment becomes the norm! -- Win 10 Pro x64, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.6.1 NotePerformer, GPO4 & 5, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC, Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Peter Roos - 16 Sep 05:02PM Hide picture > This WAS something that used to work well, before Scorch became outdated and unsupported by the major web browsers. Which, for once, wasn't Avid's fault. > > There seems to be a limit on the free version. Composers won't be able to present their entire catalogue for free. But a lot of us will find it useful to once again be able to share e.g. rehearsal tracks with people who don't own Sibelius. > Sibelius users have 1 GB of cloud space (20 scores for Sibelius First users). 1 GB is a lot of space, given that most Sibelius files are pretty small. -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 16 Sep 05:49PM (edited 16 Sep 05:50PM) Hide picture I see the main limitation as being that everything is done server-side. No internet connection, no score viewing. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Rob Tuley - 16 Sep 06:16PM (edited 16 Sep 06:21PM) Hide picture So (according to Philip Rothman's blog) it's take the Sibelius team two years to get as far as a "service" that won't transpose scores, won't print, and only plays back with a "subset" of Sibelius sounds - the people who ditched Sib Sounds for Noteperformer will just love that, I guess. The piano in the demo on the blog sounds like it's spent the last 50 years in a bar having half a gallon of beer poured into it every night, IMO. But hey, forget about the boring technical details - it's FREE!!!!! Except it isn't. If that's all you get in Sib 8.7 (eventually, whenever if comes out) you are already paying for it through your Sibelius subscriptions. Or have all the goldfish with their 7-second attention spans already forgotten about that - which is presumably what Avid want them to do? -- Rob Sib 4.1, Windows 10. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 16 Sep 09:00PM Hide picture I think we've all learned by now that meticulous semantic analysis of an Avid press release is futile! But, although transposition isn't implemented in the current demo at: http://www.avid.com/sibelius-cloud-publishing#Score-sample it does state: "Here’s an example of a score presented through Sibelius | Cloud Sharing. Click the play button to hear the score and drag the timeline indicator to move playback to any part of the score. You can also transpose the music into different keys—just click the note icon and choose the desired transposition." Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Peter Roos - 16 Sep 11:51PM Hide picture > I think we've all learned by now that meticulous semantic analysis of an Avid press release is futile! But, although transposition isn't implemented in the current demo at: > > http://www.avid.com/sibelius-cloud-publishing#Score-sample > > it does state: > > "Here’s an example of a score presented through Sibelius | Cloud Sharing. Click the play button to hear the score and drag the timeline indicator to move playback to any part of the score. You can also transpose the music into different keys—just click the note icon and choose the desired transposition." That's probably a glitch --- my educated guess, based on Philip Rothman's blog, is that they planned this for 8.7 but haven't quite got the kinks worked out. The Avid web designer that put together the official Avid page went out and prepared a demo including the feature. I'm thinking that this feature could actually be quite useful not just for commercial purposes (publishers giving a pre view of scores) but also for educational purposes, e.g., if you want to share a score analysis with people who may not have Sibelius. Presently you can upload a video to e.g. youtube and share that, but that takes up hard drive space, time for uploading, and you don't have the ability to fix mistakes or add bars as necessary. -- Peter Roos www.summeroflovemusic.com IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm2039241 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Laurence Payne - 17 Sep 12:01PM Hide picture Yup. Distribution of samples/rehearsal tracks/teaching material etc. that used to be done through Scorch has, in my experience, largely moved to MuseScore. Advantage - you get to download a local copy, it's not internet-only access. Maybe Sibelius can grab it back. I'm not sure how keen my amateur choir members will be at ONLY being able to practice their parts while online. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Hayden-Gilbert - 17 Sep 02:42PM Hide picture I agree. Scorch was great and would open in any browser. The work around is to ask people to install the "trial" and distribute Sib files by email, I suppose. -- MacBook Air 1.6 Ghz Intel Core i5, 1 Tb SSD, OS 10.12.4, 4Gb 1333 Mhz DDR3 RAM, Sibelius 8.1.5 http://ibegin.info Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Anastasio Rossi - 17 Sep 05:06PM Hide picture I create Scorch files and send them to my students and choir members who don't have Sibelius, but have installed Scorch on their computers. I use Sibelius 8, and do not intend to upgrade. How long will my routine continue to work? -- Win7 64-Bit, 2GHz, 12G RAM, Sibelius 8, AAR@prodigy.net -- Win7 64-Bit, 2GHz, 12G RAM, Sibelius 8 Sounds, AAR@prodigy.net Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robin Walker - 17 Sep 05:24PM Hide picture > How long will my routine continue to work? Only as long as web-browsers support 32-bit "Netscape"-style plugins. On Windows, only Internet Explorer is left that still supports Scorch: all other browsers have stopped supporting Netscape plugins. On macOS, "High Sierra" will be the final Mac operating system to support 32-bit working "without compromise". -- Sibelius 8.6/7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 8.0.4, Dolet 6.6 for Sibelius, Windows 10 64-bit 16GB. Desktop no-name, Microsoft Surface Book. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Kenneth Winiecki - 22 Jan 11:13PM Hide picture Sibelius 8.7.2 no longer exports Scorch .htm and .sib pairs of files. It only exports Avid Scorch .sib files. I suppose you can edit an old Scorch .htm (using the Console utility) to refer to the associated .sib and create a pair that way. I wish that this forum would show the year of each post. It's interesting to see how old the posts are. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 02 May 06:14PM Hide picture Sadly, that's also true with the 2018.4 version that I just purchased, downloaded and installed this week. The Export Scorch Web Pages option of the Export command appears to be missing, which is very surprising considering that the manual delivered with 2018.4 STILL HAS section 1.19 (page 103), that still describes the feature that apparently has been pulled. I checked out "Cloud Publishing" and what I've seen of it so far seems completely inadequate for the purposes for which I bought and continue to buy versions of Sibelius, a choral practice tool that I've been supporting for two separate groups for close to 10 years. I don't see how I can make use of "Cloud Publishing" for the purposes of supporting these practice tools. So, now I'll have to resort to hackery. I was able to edit a score and use "Export Scorch file" to generate a .sib that seemed to work in Safari. I can imagine setting up some work flow to do the stuff that Sibelius won't do for me anymore, but it's going to be incredibly more difficult, with more manual stuff to do. I've even thought of reinstalling Sibelius 7.5 to keep around for those needs to update web pages. And I'm already beginning to regret my purchase of Sibelius Ultimate. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 04 May 05:02PM Hide picture Hi Robert, Sibelius Cloud Sharing, as you've read, has replaced Scorch. If Scorch is working for you in Safari, it's unlikely to work for others. To get you going with Cloud Sharing, take a look at this recent video we put together: https://youtu.be/TR4bSWpTS4s Although Cloud Sharing doesn't (yet) support transposition and changing the top instrument, it does work in any browser on any device, plus you can push updates the scores directly from Sibelius. It's also vastly more convenient for those viewing the music as they don't need to install a plugin and restart their browser. Anyway, hope you get along well with it soon. Drop me an email if you like and we can go through it some more. Sam -- Sam Butler | Product Manager | Sibelius sam.butler@avid.com | @avid_sam | @AvidSibelius Contact the Sibelius support team: www.sibelius.com/documents/contact_form.html KB and other resources: www.sibelius.com/support Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 06 May 03:10AM Hide picture Sam, we need to talk. I've actually experimented with Cloud Sharing using the 2018.4 version I installed. I quickly backed out of it (or at least I think I did) when I saw the viewer didn't come close to meeting my needs, and further experimenting cast doubts on my being able to squeak by with the Export Scorch option with some external manipulation of .HTM files to fake an "export Scorch Web Page." I'll try to find some time to put a note together to you tomorrow. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Heggu - 30 Sep 11:47PM Hide picture Hi, it's been a too long time that there's hasn't been any visible progress on so called Cloud Sharing. I've waited from the beginning of "replacement of scorch" that never really happened. Any plans to do something? Many of my collegues has changed to other softwares and I'm interested to do the same. Jay Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Hayden-Gilbert - 06 May 03:40AM (edited 06 May 03:44AM) Hide picture Anastasia Rossi: I do same and was really sorry to see the demise of Scorch. Am eagerly awaiting the ability to adjust playback speed in the new Cloud Publishing. -- MacBook Pro 2.7 Ghz Intel Core i7, 1 Tb SSD, OS 10.12.6, 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 RAM, Sibelius 8.6 http://ibegin.info Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Zawalich - 07 May 12:17AM Hide picture We all knew this was going to happen. I'm sad for the people who will get caught up in this all for the sake of corporate branding. -- Bob An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2018. For plugin lookup and categories see https://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 09 May 07:31PM Hide picture Hey, Sam. I sent you email on Sunday. Did I miss your response? The email described my needs and a sample of what I assemble for a choral practice tool, and also evidence of the half-implemented removal of the Export Scorch Web Page from the latest release of Sibelius, suggesting it was done as a rush job. I'm stumbling along as best I can, but I want to discuss what I can do to incorporate into my work flow changes to compensate for the loss of Sibelius features. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Kenneth Winiecki - 01 Jun 04:31PM Hide picture I join Anastasia Rossi in needing playback tempo adjustment. It really helps when trying to learn new choral music. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Robert Reed - 20 Jul 02:48AM Hide picture In the absence of any support and with very little feedback from Sibelius, I have implemented improvements to a tool I built to allow me to use Sibelius Ultimate to generate files for Scorch Browser plugin for those few browsers still supporting NSAPI. I already had a tool, written in PERL, that I used to generate an index file to link together all the parts for a song. Because the Scorch plugin does not have a mixer, my practice was to use the Sibelius mixer to generate custom .SIB files for each part, SATB or whatever; my tool scans all the .SIB files in a folder, created with a file naming scheme that the tool can use to decipher what part each file represents. My script scans all the files and generates an HTML page that can be used to navigate to the individual parts. (I'll try to post a sample image below.) While Sibelius Ultimate does not generate the Scorch Web Pages that it used to (looks like you just removed the menu entry from the Export page an little more to remove it), it still can generate files for Avid Scorch, which initial experiments suggest will work with the Scorch browser as well. So all that was left to me was to supply the missing HTM pages that Sibelius no longer generates. And I already had a template file, having constructed several for the old Scorch Web Page generator. It was pretty easy for me to extend my script to look for the complementary .HTM files, and generate from the template if they be absent. I've tested it now with about four songs in the new production of Portland's Christmas Revels (starting rehearsals in September). So far so good. Hopefully that will mean I'll make it through this pre-production schedule without pulling my hair out and hurling invectives at Avid every couple of weeks. Now, let's see if I can attach an image to this note that should show a sample of the song index files my script generates. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Heggu - 30 Sep 11:54PM Hide picture Very interesting to hear more from what you have accomplished. You are developing the thing that hunders or thousends of users are needing. It's also somehow funny that one talent can do more in short time than the full house of employees. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Hayden-Gilbert - 02 Jun 02:34AM Hide picture But now it looks like Sibelius First is going to be free for students -- MacBook Pro 2.7 Ghz Intel Core i7, 1 Tb SSD, OS 10.12.6, 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 RAM, Sibelius 8.6 http://ibegin.info Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Bob Hayden-Gilbert - 28 Sep 04:06AM Hide picture Does the latest version of Sibelius include Cloud Publishing for general users of Sibelius now? -- MacBook Pro 2.7 Ghz Intel Core i7, 1 Tb SSD, OS 10.13.6, 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 RAM, Sibelius 8.6 http://ibegin.info Back to top | All threads

Re: Sibelius | Cloud Publishing [replaces Scorch] Posted by Heggu - 30 Sep 11:31PM Hide picture This is sad and ridiculous. I've waited too too much time now so the so called replacement of scorch to be really enabled, and yet have been paid for rubbish. Nothing has happened in long long, long long time and Sam is repeating the same answers month and year after year. Why? There's several times that this sad thing wont even start when I start Sibelius. So many of my educational projects has been a vaste of time. Until now i've used MuseScore for sharing and it's working quite well. Nice and working web ui for example. Tip for you.. Somehow Avid is loosing it's touch, many of my collegues has changed to alternatives for Sibelius and Pro Tools. After 15 years of loyal Avid life I'm ready to do the same. Back to top | All threads