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Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mimi Mansky, 27 Aug 05:38AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mike Lyons, 27 Aug 06:53AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mike Lyons, 27 Aug 05:29PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mimi Mansky, 27 Aug 10:54PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mike Lyons, 28 Aug 06:50AM

Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament
Posted by Mimi Mansky - 27 Aug 05:38AM
Hi Everyone:

Earlier, I asked for help with making a "harmonic minor" ornament.

Later on, I was able to notate just how I want it to sound. Please see attachment.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mimi

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Attachment ORNAMENTS 8-27-2015_3 - Copy.sib (33K)

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament
Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 Aug 06:53AM
Alter the ~O77,63 MIDI message to read ~O78,63. Just be careful you don't accidentally (pun intended) change its position in the bar while you are doing it.


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Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament
Posted by Mike Lyons - 27 Aug 05:29PM (edited 27 Aug 07:18PM)
Hi Mimi,

Just to clarify: You need to alter two MIDI messages on the Eb


~O75,63 ~N78,63 (75 is the Eb, 78 is the f#)
~O78,63 ~N75,63

O= noteOff
N= Noteon

The 63s are, I think, velocity.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament
Posted by Mimi Mansky - 27 Aug 10:54PM
Hi Mike,

If you can send me an actual illustration of what I'm supposed to do, using the attachment I sent you, that might be a good idea.

Thanks,

Mimi

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament
Posted by Mike Lyons - 28 Aug 06:50AM (edited 28 Aug 05:43PM)
Hi Mimi,

When you move the inserted text items to see what you are typing into, do NOT move them by dragging or with the arrows. Instead, use the inspector's y value. In the attached, in bar 7, the mordent works exactly as it should. The reason bar one doesn't work is because the text on the Eb has ended up on the wrong part of the beat. This means that the MIDI instructions are happening in the wrong order and you get a hanging note. In bar 4 it was because you had only altered one of the MIDI messages, so you got two hanging notes.

Take a look at the 2nd attachment: In bar 8 I have inserted an F# and Eb as shown in bar 1, but used the mordent from the zymbol menu to insert a mordent. This mordent plays exactly as you wish, because the F# occurs in the bar already. You don't have to mess about with MIDI messages.

See attached.

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Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mimi Mansky, 27 Aug 05:38AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mike Lyons, 27 Aug 06:53AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mike Lyons, 27 Aug 05:29PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mimi Mansky, 27 Aug 10:54PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Making a harmonic minor ornament - Mike Lyons, 28 Aug 06:50AM