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Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Nicholas Freestone - 02 Jul 02:05PM

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It is a bit off that the multi-touch gesture support is Windows-only. That wasn't made clear at the announcement of all this back in April (perhaps they couldn't get the Mac support up to scratch in time, so had to drop it) - that was at least one (small) advancement for the Mac platform. But, no! Is the new keypad skin showing on the Mac version, or is that Windows-only, too?

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Robin Walker - 02 Jul 02:17PM

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The new scalable graphics for Keypad and Transport are available for Mac as well as Windows.

To the best of my knowledge, Apple have never released a Mac with touch-screen support.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Albert - 02 Jul 03:03PM

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Hi Folks,
if a software is updated and gets an big new number ---- 8.xxx What do you expect? In former times Sibelius always came up with IMPROVEMENTS. I really didn't like all of them but others made things so easy and fast. I trusted my experiences with this company. Now I feel cheated.
For me this number change was an indication for new features. But if, as an Apple User, you really get nothing. What do you call this?
By the way: In my community here, there are many people now being suspicious about Avid. And some grabbed out Finale.

The Sweetness of making fast money has long disappeared, when the bitterness of loosing loyal customers stays and stays… (Abul Obdul X)

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Cause - 02 Jul 06:11PM

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> Hi Folks,
> if a software is updated and gets an big new number ---- 8.xxx What do you expect? In former times Sibelius always came up with IMPROVEMENTS.

But they're not calling it Sibelius 8. Except when they are calling it Sibelius 8. It's 8. It's not 8. It's a silly word (and number) game that they're playing.

In offline discussions with some users who don't use this forum, we're calling it "Sibelius 7.8", as a reminder that it's really only slightly different from 7.5, with a few new features that interest none of us, and pretty much the same bugs and design flaws, plus a few new bugs added. One of my friends pronounces "Sibelius 7.8" as "Sibelius seven pointless eight".

The only big changes are not in the program itself, but rather in Avid's revenue-generating scheme.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 02 Jul 06:57PM

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> > Hi Folks,
> > if a software is updated and gets an big new number ---- 8.xxx What do you expect? In former times Sibelius always came up with IMPROVEMENTS.
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> But they're not calling it Sibelius 8. Except when they are calling it Sibelius 8. It's 8. It's not 8. It's a silly word (and number) game that they're playing.
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> In offline discussions with some users who don't use this forum, we're calling it "Sibelius 7.8", as a reminder that it's really only slightly different from 7.5, with a few new features that interest none of us, and pretty much the same bugs and design flaws, plus a few new bugs added. One of my friends pronounces "Sibelius 7.8" as "Sibelius seven pointless eight".
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> The only big changes are not in the program itself, but rather in Avid's revenue-generating scheme.
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> Cause

"It's not Sibelius 8, but it is Sibelius 8."
Foolish game they play here...."don't pay attention to that man behind the curtain," "nothing to see here move along."

Sibelius 7.5.2 would be more apt in its definition.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Nicholas Freestone - 02 Jul 05:26PM

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> To the best of my knowledge, Apple have never released a Mac with touch-screen support.
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Robin - I was referring to trackpad multi-touch support, which was certainly hinted at (if not outright stated as) being supported across Windows and Mac in April when the announcement came.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8.
Posted by Philip Woodroffe - 02 Jul 09:53PM (edited 02 Jul 09:56PM)

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Im going to say something here, I really think people should take advantage of the demo and see if it is something they want, for the first 30 days essentially sibelius 8 is the full version, surely during this time you can work out that there is no changes of interest and defer buying it, if this is the case.

Personally I have not even installed the demo but I'm very aware the new sibelius has nothing for me, everyone is entitled to do as they wish, but a lot of people are playing right into avids hands by just buying it based on past faith in the program.

I am normally one of those who buys without questions but having had months to mull it all over, i knew my stand before this even came out.

Im particularly very sorry that photoscore has gone the same way as sibelius and provided notate me, which is a very poor program quite akin to audio score which I own, (but is one of the products i regret buying but bought it as a bundle deal) It adds essentially another program which is not worth anything like the upgrade fee, and the update actually is less accurate that photoscore 7, its actually a retrograde step. I think this is also the case with sibelius such a shame.

I will bide my time but it does look like the end of the road for both sibelius and photoscore if they do not bring the goods and soon, Yes the staff are even more or less saying watch this space, but for a major version this should have brought some major changes, things that work equally on mac and windows, I agree us mac users are getting a really bum deal, did they sack all the people that could code for mac?

So disappointed by all this, as they say all good things come to an end, ill keep following to look out for good additions but I'm not going to hold my breath.

With my limited use of sibelius ( i don't in any way push it to its limits with my use) Its looking very much like I will be riding sibelius 7 out till it works no more on mac, then ditching sibelius, i don't say this lightly because i really love sibelius and how it all works, but i feel its been ruined now.

come on avid surprise me bring the thunder prove me wrong please, I will be so happy to eat humble pie.

I worry though that a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon regardless and avid will believe because people have still subscribed they will get away with charging for essentially nothing.

I think sibelius 7.5 was a proof of concept to see how little they can give people and have people pay for it, in fact this was a cheaper and more worthwhile update, maybe if avid had brought this kind of change in 8 people might have thought it was more worth it.

Sorry for the long winded post, if you are reading this thank you and well done.

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Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Albert, 02 Jul 10:14AM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Neil Sands, 02 Jul 10:28AM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Laurence Payne, 02 Jul 10:37AM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Nicholas Freestone, 02 Jul 02:05PM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Robin Walker, 02 Jul 02:17PM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Albert, 02 Jul 03:03PM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Cause, 02 Jul 06:11PM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 02 Jul 06:57PM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Nicholas Freestone, 02 Jul 05:26PM

Re: Sib. 7.5: Sibelius 8. - Philip Woodroffe, 02 Jul 09:53PM