This has been expected for years, in accordance with Chrome's announced policies and timelines. Scorch, the browser plugin, will probably not be updated, as Avid have announced a different strategy for content delivery, which does not use browser plugins, see:
http://www.avid.com/US/partners/sibelius-cloud-publishing
The removal of NPAPI support from Chrome means that it would require more than a simple update to Scorch for it to survive, because removal of NPAPI support has completely cut away the foundations on which Scorch was built.
Scorch will continue to work in Firefox (as NPAPI), and Internet Explorer (as ActiveX), for so long as those browsers continue to support plugins of those natures.
Advanced Chrome users can set an option which re-enables NPAPI plugins until September 2015, when support will be withdrawn completely. If you are an advanced Chrome user, you will understand what this means:
chrome://flags/#enable-npapi
If you are not an advanced Chrome user, you should switch to Internet Explorer or Firefox for your Scorch plugin usage.
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Sibelius 7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 7.0.2, Dolet 6.3 for Sibelius, Windows 7 32-bit SP1 4GB, Windows 8.1 64-bit 16GB.
Indeed, our plugin 'Scorch' is being phased out. We needed to replace it with something that worked on all browsers and all devices, and plugins in general can't cope with that eco system. We also required a smooth experience for the customer too so there was no installation or updating needed whatsoever.
This is where we came up with Sibelius | Cloud Publishing, a cloud based solution that send the scores down to the user's browser in a format that works in any browser on any device. Music Sales are the first to go live with it on www.sheetmusicdirect.com and are rolling it out to all browsers (Chrome is best right now). You'll see many more publishers following along soon.
It should be all scores, but there is some filtering of browser. Make sure you're using the latest version of Chrome on Mac and you'll see something like the attached.
It's all scores across sheetmusicdirect.com. They are rolling this out steadily across the various browsers. So far, Chrome will default to only using the new Cloud Publishing viewer. Other browsers may have a 'Scorch' and 'Avid Beta' tab for you to switch and try out the new viewer.
Credit where it's due - that is the first live example of Sibelius Cloud Publishing that I've seen and it looks *seriously* good. The score playback and playback line integration is rock solid, it doesn't rely on GM sounds for playback and its responsiveness was top-notch.
Great work, all. I look forward to seeing the software in further action around the internet as others take it on.
Will there be support in Sib 8 for regular users to export scores in this format to use on personal websites, etc, as one could with Scorch?
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MacBook Pro, OS X 10.10.2, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 16GB RAM, Sibelius 7.5.1
Really glad you like it. It's been up and running for a few days and we're dealing with a few thousand requests a minute, and so far (fingers crossed) it's been solid. Very pleased indeed with the achievement of the Sib team.
Anyway, on to your questions:
Sibelius | Cloud Publishing is more or less aimed squarely at commercial publishers. The next thing we want to do is adapt the workflows we've created (and the APIs etc) to make them ready for individuals and small publishers to start using too.
It will be integrated firmly into Sibelius one day too, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on how you might use this so we can get it right.
It is good and very important that in the development of the new Sibelius web-player the attention is taken also to the needs of other than commercial users. For me as music educator and guitar teacher possibility to publish own material on my own site for my pupils has been one significant reason to use Sibelius. If this feature does not work in future, and I mean near future, many music educators are in trouble. I think this is not very wise politics from Sibelius the make non commercial customers wait too long.
So how could one resolve this problem? If I have understood the model of new player the program is situated always on the server where the music (sib-files) are. I guess one solution could be similar kind of service as GoogleDrive and OneDrive. The files would be located in SibCloud and also in the SibCloud-folder on the computer. When publishing the music there would be link to the file in SibCloud and it would call the player in SibCloud-server.
Hopefully waiting for some solution
Georgij
Don't worry, we haven't forgotten about individuals. Sibelius | Cloud Publishing is still in active development, one of the things on the horizon being its use for individuals.
Hi laurence, if i read the announcements correctly, sheet music direct are using the new cloud publishing viewer which is avids way forward and the early adopter of things to come. If you look at score exchange, this hasnt been touched yet and are there plans for it to fit in with avids publishing philosophy.
Nothing to do with it being hosted on the the web or on line but to do with avids new direction with publishing houses.
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Fraser Sims
G7 on XP, Sibelius 7.1.3 on 10.6.8, and the slightly buggy scorch 1.2 on iOS 6
> Are we going to see score exchange ( which used to be sibelius music) switching to cloud publishing any time soon?
I can't speak for ScoreExchange, but we've been in touch with them with regard to implementing Sibelius Cloud Publishing. However, at this stage we can't say if/when they will implement it over and above their seView and Scorch implementations.
To Sam Butler: As a composer / rehearsel / training person I loved the features of the Scorch Plugin.
Being able to launch a song_voice.html with a song_voice.sib file on my websites for learning have been of extremely value.
The new Cloud publishing solution does not cover my needs:
- Slowing down of the playback for study
- Need to republish all old arrangements
(over 200 songs each having full score /parts separately playable)
I hope a successor of the ScorchPlugin will be produced so all I need to deploy is a new scorchplugin install
Berklee College of Music has already moved to Noteflight Notation.. DON'T LET YOUR TEACHER COMMUNITY DOWN!
Seconding the previous plea(s) for a workable solution for education (which has to be an update to Scorch which will work in Chrome as well as the other browsers). Cloud publishing certainly seems to be happily targeted towards the music publishers etc but in education (I work at the Open University UK we need a flexible solution which can integrate single score scorch example with our online teaching text and which we can technically effect ourselves without involving a cloud based solution.
Scorch for all its arcane failings and bugs fulfilled this need for us - as it does for single composers working alone etc.
Steinberg, Noteflight and other operators in the field must be amused by the coupling of the slimness of the latest Sibelius 8 upgrade with the absence of any further development effort on Scorch.
Perhaps someone can tell me how the cloud solution is going to either answer the needs of those of us in education or the individual musician working alone.
Educational uses of Sibelius Cloud Publishing are most certainly on our list and continue to be an important part of our roadmap.
Integrating scores into webpages will be simple and much more flexible than the old Scorch plugin. As it works on any device, your students will be able to access it in more ways than before. We'll be able to push new features directly to you too, as it's all sent down the wire rather than being stuck in a static plugin.
Thanks for this Sam. How will this work with a customised system based on Moodle sitting behind a university fire walled network. Would I be receiving back individual files presumably using Html5/JavaScript playback techniques that I then have the option of hooking into our structured content pages as Html5 applets.
Exactly how individual music examples are fed back to the user and how flexible the customisation of these is. - is of massive concern to me and possibly others as well
Re. Firewall, we're serving on plain HTTPS (port 443) which I suspect will either be open already for you, but can certainly be opened by one of your IT people.
Development and customisation is pretty much following the same model as Scorch 6.2 - once we've achieved feature parity, which isn't far away, we'll be looking into even more customisable features. The YouTube and SoundCloud APIs are good examples of the level of customisable and interactivity we're shooting for in the longer term.
Have you got any specific requirements/suggestions for customisation? Would be glad to hear your ideas!
Prior to my note here, the last update to this thread was from last July. Lots of promises were given in the thread above about how we who wish to share practice materials with our groups would be satisfied with the new cloud publishing replacement to Scorch. Most of the browsers are now losing their NSAPI capabilities but still I can find nothing about how to do what I've been doing with Scorch since Sibelius 3. What's with the big silence?
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It’s a long time since I posted first message to this thread concerning web publishing after Scorch plugin stopped working in latest browsers. I haven’t seen any progression on this issue to make web publishing possible in Sibelius the way Scorch did. As a music educator I would like to have possibility to publish the materials for my pupils. Will this (ever?) happen with Sibelius? With Sibelius Cloud Publishing?
I am also waiting anxiously for an update on this issue. I now don't seem able to play Scorch files in the latest Mozilla Firefox version (54.0.1;32-bit), which leaves Scorch only working in Internet Explorer, but for how long? I had planned to update my website with all my Scorch links this summer, but I'm stuck as Sibelius is not yet providing educators with the option to give students access to free scores. No doubt they are working on this but I would appreciate an update. Not knowing is forcing me to look for alternative options - e.g. 'Noteflight'. I'm reluctant to spend time moving across to Noteflight when the relevant Sibelius update may be imminent. However, if no feedback on this is forthcoming within the next few weeks, I'm afraid I'll have to bite the bullet and find an alternative non-Sibelius solution.
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