Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 23 Jan 04:29PM Hide picture I'm using 7.1.3, getting ready for a string of performances. I use the Sibelius sounds (I like Sibelius 7 Sounds Lite better than any other, esp. on regular piano & strings) to accompany my vocal solos. Get good response and the average hearer doesn't notice, but it still lacks something...sounds less than full, when compared to real instruments. Especially lacking in the low ranges, tho adding an electric bass guitar way down there helps.I know Sibelius sounds weren't meant for performance, but I don't have any other alternative at the moment. Is there a reason to upgrade to 7.5? Will it help the actual sound? Thanks. Tom Fuller in Lubbock, Texas Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robin Walker - 23 Jan 04:47PM Hide picture Sibelius 7.5 uses the same sample library as 7.1.3. There are a few improvements to playback. -- Sibelius 7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 7.0.2, Dolet 6.3 for Sibelius, Windows 7 32-bit SP1 4GB, Windows 8.1 64-bit 16GB. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 23 Jan 04:51PM Hide picture Improvements in sound quality, or in operation? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 23 Jan 05:32PM Hide picture Largely imperceptable improvements. More bug-fixes. You can do a lot to improve perceived playback quality by meticulous attention to dynamics, phrasing, articulations etc. in your score. Some people swear by Note Performer. But I wouldn't rate the piano as its strongest feature. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Adrian Drover - 23 Jan 05:57PM Hide picture If a sound set sounded realistic, there wouldn't be any need for live musicians. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 23 Jan 07:42PM Hide picture Yeah, but Mr. Sibelius doesn't charge nearly as much as live musicians. I always say live music is better than dead music. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 24 Jan 02:40AM Hide picture I use NotePerformer library for orchestral stuff, is just eats Sibelius Sounds for lunch. For Piano, I use PianoTeq, which is IMO the best piano sounds bar-none, since it's a synth rather than samples, it can properly do all of the sympathetic resonances, etc. No sample-based library, event he big multi-GB ones can do that. In addition it gives me a wide range of modeled pianos, from modern Steinways and Bluthners, to early wooden-soundboard pianos from 200 years ago, plus some very serviveable harpsichords and clavichords for even earlier stuff. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 24 Jan 02:49AM Hide picture That sounds like what I'm looking for, Tyler. Do you have links? Is it pretty easy to load and integrate with Sibelius 7? TnT Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 24 Jan 02:57AM Hide picture NotePerformer is very easy, as it's written explicitly for Sibelius. It installs a new playback configuration, don't have to change the scores at all. http://www.noteperformer.com/ PianoTeq - This takes a little bit of minimal doing, because it does some things a bit differently, since it's intended more for live playback. Nothing too complicated - it uses the full velocity range, so ppp is 0, and fff is 127, with linear interpretation set up. I made a house style with an alerted playback dictionary that does that, and also wires up the sustain and una corda pedals to the midi controllers pianoteq is looking for. https://pianoteq.com/ Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 24 Jan 03:07AM Hide picture For, me, the strings are the main thing. So, Noteperformer sounds like what I'm looking for. I didn't understand half of what you wrote, but it's not your fault since I know only the basics of Sibelius. I compose by laboriously clicking one note at a time on the staves. Get some pretty big sounds, though. A couple of years ago I installed Garritan Sounda, and they'are accessible (as you know) by pressing the Play tab and then selecting the Configuration on the left. Does Noteperformer work the same way? I was, frankly, disappointed in Garrison. TnT Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 24 Jan 03:09AM Hide picture I will be honest and say I think strings are noteperformer's weakest area, but still better than stock sounds. The woodwinds and (especially) brass are very very good, especially for the price point. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 24 Jan 03:12AM Hide picture If you'd like, feel free to attach one of your scores in this thread and I'll load it up and render it using NotePerformer. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 24 Jan 10:33AM Hide picture > I will be honest and say I think strings are noteperformer's weakest area, but still better than stock sounds. The woodwinds and (especially) brass are very very good, especially for the price point. IMO, NP applies too much "Random wrongness" to some of the brass sounds. I have raised this with the makers - who accept the fact and say it will be corrected in the next release. A lot of the immediate appeal of NP may be caused by the very high level of reverb in the default settings. As with over-use of any effect - whether acoustic or an instrumental "extended technique" - it can rapidly become irritating. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 24 Jan 06:20PM Hide picture Ok, here's one I'm working on, with piano and strings. It's not polished, but I would like to see the difference the software would make, especially on strings. Any suggestions on how to improve it would be appreciated, too. I am a Christian teacher, preacher and singer, and I like for the music to reflect the libretto and subject matter. Thanks for your help. TnT Attachment Long ago 1 24 14.sib (63K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 24 Jan 07:58PM Hide picture https://mega.co.nz/#!a8dwRC4K!ILiy0pi_YaXEo9fI_OHHRsbDBhvmd520lDbsgy5jTJ4 Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 24 Jan 08:28PM Hide picture (This makes the above a clickable link: https://mega.co.nz/#!a8dwRC4K!ILiy0pi_YaXEo9fI_OHHRsbDBhvmd520lDbsgy5jTJ4 Thanks Bob -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 24 Jan 09:25PM Hide picture Thanks for your trouble. I shall listen to it. TnT Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 02:29AM Hide picture Does Noteperformer generate an .mp3 / other type of Output File Whilst I have readers there, I want to alter my Details shown below automatically remembering them. i.e. I now have Cubase 6 NOT SX3 as currently shown below? And of course IF I purchase Noteperformer, I will need to add that to the current List. Thanks to all -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase SX3, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 25 Jan 02:59AM Hide picture NP works as a sound set in Sibelius...so you just export audio like you would with the default sounds. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 03:10AM Hide picture > I will be honest and say I think strings are noteperformer's weakest area, but still better than stock sounds. The woodwinds and (especially) brass are very very good, especially for the price point. If I upload a smallish sample would you do that for me please before I rush to purchase Noteperformer? I use Cubase 6 to take advantage of the fantastic EWQLSO Platinum Pro VST sounds, but it is an awful lot of work doing two scores, one in Sibelius then Cubase, so IF Noteperformer is really good, it might be worth purchasing to save me a lot of future duplication? -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 25 Jan 03:34AM Hide picture Sure, just upload a score and I'll render it. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 25 Jan 03:35AM Hide picture How comepetitive it is with EWQL I can't say - keep in mind it costs 1/4 of what EQ Gold does. The really nice thing about NP is that it actually reads things like slurs and hairpins from the scores, and generally plays them back quiet well, as well as things like pizz and various other techniques - basically, if it's in the stock sibelius dictionary it will play it back with zero manual futzing around. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 04:35AM Hide picture DONE! Many Thanks Bob! Regards to all users! -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 25 Jan 03:44AM Hide picture Hi Robert >Whilst I have readers there, I want to alter my Details shown below automatically remembering them. i.e. I now have Cubase 6 NOT SX3 as currently shown below? Go to the forums home page: http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?groupid=3 And on the top of the page look for Settings- double click on that, and then Under Forum Settings, look for Signature-- make sure "Use Signature" is checked, and change what needs to be changed. When you're all finished click "update" at the bottom of the page. Pl see attachment for these instructions. Thanks Bob -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Attachment Screen Shot 2015-01-24 at 10.41.34 PM.png (173K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 04:30AM Hide picture Okay Tom, please see attached sample for conversion by Noteperformer -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Attachment string_orchestra.sib (132K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by TylerE - 25 Jan 04:54AM Hide picture https://mega.co.nz/#!Ko90iaZC!agOpn09D-wR8LJtWqCFAHurk8nTo4TQNuqKwRJ4-s8A Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 25 Jan 05:28AM Hide picture >DONE! Many Thanks Bob! Regards to all users! Youre very welcome, Robert:) Thanks Bob -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 06:22AM Hide picture Many thanks for the conversion! I shan't be rushing off for Noteperformer! Many thanks regardless! > Okay Tom, please see attached sample for conversion by Noteperformer > > -- > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Jesper Elén - 25 Jan 10:21AM (edited 25 Jan 10:45AM) Hide picture Hi, I've just got a beta of Noteperformer 1.4 and the little I've tried it, sounds much better. New Piano, Flutes, drums, better brass intonation (The virtual brass players has been practising Laurence), reverb and a bunch of other stuff so try it again after 1.4 is released. Also strings are now built from individual players so you can do real divisi. For me especially smaller ensembles sounds a lot better. I guess it would not be to long before it's released. Jesper Also for those of you using NP, it's important to follow the instructions in the manual, setting all mixer faders to zero, set the playback properties etc… And for me the reverb to Ambient works best, concert hall can be a little to much. -- MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Adrian Drover - 25 Jan 11:12AM Hide picture Does NP allow you to export audio direct from Sib rather than having to use a third party prog. (e.g., Audacity)? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Jesper Elén - 25 Jan 11:28AM Hide picture Never done it but I think so yes. NP is not very good for Jazz, Big Band etc. though. unless you want to hear how jazz sounds played by classical musicians. ; - ) Jesper -- MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 11:52AM Hide picture Thanks Jesper, may be I'll try again with Version 1.4 Thanks for the Update! > Many thanks for the conversion! > > I shan't be rushing off for Noteperformer! > > Many thanks regardless! > > > > > Okay Tom, please see attached sample for conversion by Noteperformer > > > > -- > > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. > > > -- > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Jesper Elén - 25 Jan 12:01PM Hide picture Your welcome Robert. Jesper -- MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 25 Jan 12:30PM (edited 25 Jan 12:31PM) Hide picture If you add a little TLC to the mix, things can sound quite different! Have a listen to these examples I just made, using Sibelius 7 Sounds, Sibelius 6 Essentials, Note Performer and GPO. The raw versions are simply the score as received. For the optimized versions, I (very roughly) separated the cello and bass lines, giving each their own stave and sound. Then, in the Mixer, I selected ensemble string sounds for all except the top violin and adjusted the balance. I don't know which version you prefer. But the range of possibilities is certainly interesting! http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/share/sibeliusplayback.html Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 12:47PM Hide picture I very much like the enhanced Noteperformer version! Is it possible to send me a Copy? That would be great and certainly makes Noteperformer more interesting to use in Sibelius! > Your welcome Robert. > > Jesper > > -- > MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, > Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, > Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, > EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 25 Jan 01:09PM Hide picture I'm afraid I didn't save it! Hold on, I'll try to lash it up again... I think it's as much about choosing ensemble string sounds, separating cellos and basses and mixing as about choice of sound set. You'll obviously want to go into much more detail with the cello and bass parts than I could with simple top note filtering. Attachment LPstring_orchestra.sib (155K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 01:45PM Hide picture I am also using the earlier sib. 7.1.3, so could you send that enhanced version also please, so I can check your settings? Cheers! -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 25 Jan 01:28PM Hide picture I was after the enhanced Noteperformer version Laurence? Hope you still have it to send? Thanks > I very much like the enhanced Noteperformer version! > > Is it possible to send me a Copy? > > That would be great and certainly makes Noteperformer more interesting to use in Sibelius! > > > > > > Your welcome Robert. > > > > Jesper > > > > -- > > MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, > > Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, > > Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, > > EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright > > > -- > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 25 Jan 02:27PM Hide picture Here it is for Sibelius 6 - that ought to satisfy everyone! As I said - a very rough balance, and a very rough separation of cellos and basses. Attachment LP_sib6_string_orchestra.sib (217K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Jesper Elén - 25 Jan 03:36PM Hide picture >I very much like the enhanced Noteperformer version! I'm afraid you have to wait until it's been tested, As a beta tester I'm not allowed to spread it. I did get Arnes permission to talk about it though. I'm sure all NP users will get a mail when it's ready for release. Jesper -- MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Jesper Elén - 25 Jan 04:22PM (edited 25 Jan 04:34PM) Hide picture Ah, I see, you don't want the plugin but a sound file made with it. Sorry to be a bit slow. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2025545/LPstring_orchestra_NP_1.4.mp3 Jesper Good thing Laurence already did the hard part separating the cellos & basses -- MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Jesper Elén - 25 Jan 05:01PM Hide picture Somewhat jazzier strings with NP. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2025545/Everything_happens_to_me.mp3 Jesper -- MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 25 Jan 09:34PM Hide picture Wow, interesting sounds. Still looking, tho. Guess I am searching for more of a lush, full sound, especially with deep, realistic bass, especially in strings and brass. I love Sibelius Lite's flugelhorn, and horns, but not trumpets. They sound electronic. Sibelius Lite strings and many instruments are pretty good, but not ideal. I love high highs and especially low lows. i want a sound comparable to the default rubato (or whatever you call it) we hear when starting up Sibelius! TnT Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 25 Jan 10:34PM Hide picture You can find what you want, but its going to cost you $$$. As a starting point pls see: http://www.try-sound.com/ And try out some there, though they dont have all libraries by any means. If you find something you like, if it was me Id then check here, to see if theres a sound set for it: http://www.soundsetproject.com/soundsets/ You can also request a soundset be created. Id also do the reverse, and check out libraries there are sound sets for, but you can only hear through audio samples on their site, and not on try-sound. Hope this helps Thanks Bob Morabito -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 26 Jan 12:13AM Hide picture How do I Download that .mp3? Thanks > >I very much like the enhanced Noteperformer version! > > I'm afraid you have to wait until it's been tested, As a beta tester I'm not allowed to > spread it. I did get Arnes permission to talk about it though. > I'm sure all NP users will get a mail when it's ready for release. > > Jesper > > > -- > MacBook Pro, 8GB, OS 10.9.4, > Sibelius 7.5.1, Wallander Intstruments Brass & Woodwind 2.37, > Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.3, > EZDrummer 2.01 + Jazz EZX 1.5.1, Pianoteq Pro 5.01, Acoustic Samples The Upright -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 26 Jan 01:12AM Hide picture Can you listen to samples on these? Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 26 Jan 01:24AM Hide picture If you add ?dl=1 to the end of a Dropbox link it should download rather than play. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 26 Jan 01:31AM Hide picture >Posted by Robert Franklin - 26 Jan 12:13AM How do I Download that .mp3? Thanks > If it was the one of your piece at Dropbox, I emailed it to you..was that the right one? (and to save it on a Mac I did File>Save Page As) Thanks Bob -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Porter - 26 Jan 03:30AM Hide picture Tom, Open your score in Sib full sounds. Open the mixer. At the bottom of each channel is a double right arrow. Click it and a row of smart knobs opens. These change the default sounds quite a bit. For example, for each string section, I raise the release knob to at least 50%, and the legato release to 60%. Amounts vary depending on the music. Settings like this help lush strings up. These settings are not available in lite sounds. By the way, delete the long fermata on your last note, select the note the regular fermata is on, open the Inspector and you can define the fermata. -- Bob Porter Sibelius 7.5.1,W8.1,C2Quad OC'ed to 3.4 Ghz,8 GB slower ram than I'd like, 250GB SSD. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 26 Jan 05:08AM Hide picture Laurence, I am having problems downloading the Noteperformer file you enhanced? You gave sib. 7.5 but I have 7.1.3 Also I can't get the .mp3 filr nor the Audio file you made on your page with the various options you made? Thanks -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 26 Jan 05:13AM Hide picture Ok, I used File\Save As and it Downloaded the .mp3. Thanks Bob for the tip! -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 26 Jan 06:05AM Hide picture You're welcome Robert:) Thanks Bob PS Im also attaching a Sib 7.1.3 version of the file youre asking for that was in Sib 7.5 format. (Theres also a Sib 6 version above you could open in Sib 7.1.3.) Thanks Bob -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Attachment LPstring_orchestra713.sib (154K) Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robert Franklin - 26 Jan 06:15AM Hide picture Thanks ever so much again Bob! Cheers! > Ok, I used File\Save As and it Downloaded the .mp3. > > Thanks Bob for the tip! > > -- > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. -- Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit, 16 MB Ram. Sib. 64 Bit, Sib. 7.1.3, Sib. 6, EWQLSO SO Platinum Pro + Symphonic Choirs WB, Cubase 6, Kontakt 5, Halion 4. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Morabito - 26 Jan 06:34AM Hide picture Youre very welcome Robert:) Thanks Bob -- Bob Morabito Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1 Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 26 Jan 12:32PM Hide picture Wow, I didn't know about the arrows at the bottom of the mixer channels. I did that, but they're so small I can't read them. What are their labels? TnT Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robin Walker - 26 Jan 12:33PM Hide picture The smart-knob labels can be different for each instrument. -- Sibelius 7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 7.0.2, Dolet 6.3 for Sibelius, Windows 7 32-bit SP1 4GB, Windows 8.1 64-bit 16GB. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 26 Jan 02:52PM Hide picture The smart-knobs can make a useful difference. But not as big a one as checking whether Sibelius has allocated a solo string sound or an ensemble one to your stave. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 26 Jan 03:02PM Hide picture If I knew what the smart knobs did, it would be helpful. I took a screen shot of the mixer and zoomed it up to a large size. However, the labels still were unreadable. TnT Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Bob Porter - 26 Jan 03:55PM Hide picture In this case, what does "unreadable" mean? Pixelated, blurred, to small? I believe you can make the mixer bigger, if need be. I never had a problem even on my laptop screen. -- Bob Porter Sibelius 7.5.1,W8.1,C2Quad OC'ed to 3.4 Ghz,8 GB slower ram than I'd like, 250GB SSD. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Tom C. Fuller - 26 Jan 03:58PM Hide picture Here's a screen shot of my mixer. Been zooming in, and still can't read them. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Robin Walker - 26 Jan 04:14PM Hide picture No attachment was present. On this forum, attachments must be less than 900 kBytes in size, and of type .png, .jpg, or .sib, with those extension spelt in lower case. The smart knob labels are quite legible to me, but if your operating system is performing any pixel scaling on the display, that might introduce problems. -- Sibelius 7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 7.0.2, Dolet 6.3 for Sibelius, Windows 7 32-bit SP1 4GB, Windows 8.1 64-bit 16GB. Back to top | All threads

Re: Sib. 7.5: Does 7.5--or anything else--sound more realistic than 7.1.3? Posted by Laurence Payne - 26 Jan 04:21PM Hide picture Just twiddle the knobs. You'll hear what they do. The labels aren't important. Back to top | All threads