When I import a house style to a score, does it also import it to the parts? I've got into a bit of a muddle. I think it's Opus Plantain I want - that is the standard one for orchestral score and parts, isn't it?
What's happening - I'm not sure whether consequent on the change of house style or something else - is that my parts are not showing multiple rests, but a series of single bar rests.
Can someone please point me to a quick solution, as I have to get these parts finished and sent off today if possible?
Thanks.
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www.newcarols.com Freelance music therapist and occasional composer. Sibelius 7.13, GPO4, iMac3.06GHz, Evolution MK-149, MacBook Pro
Thanks, Laurence - quick off the mark, as always! I've done exactly what you said, but unfortunately some of my parts are obstinately remaining as they were. I even reduced the quantity from 4 bars to 2 (to become multi rests). There's something about 'system must be 50% full' - should I alter this percentage?
Still wondering if playing about with the house style has mucked up the system. Should the house style of the score be reflected in the parts, or do I have to reset the parts separately?
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www.newcarols.com Freelance music therapist and occasional composer. Sibelius 7.13, GPO4, iMac3.06GHz, Evolution MK-149, MacBook Pro
I can't see any big problem with multi-rests in the Parts? They need a bit of manual tidying-up, but Parts always do!
There's a few places where dynamics have got attached to the wrong stave. And you've set the top margin rather tight. But it's easy enough to drag the top stave down a bit, and the title text up.
Are there any particular places where the tidy-up is defeating you?
Well thanks - sounds (and looks) like a different piece! Don't know that I care for all that reverb and enhanced trumpet sound for this piece, but it's very interesting. Don't think I've used note performer before.
Interestingly, when I looked at parts appearance for one of the offending parts (as opposed to All Parts), I couldn't check or uncheck any of the boxes, including the multi rests one, as they were greyed out.
What I did in the end is to create new parts for flute & horns, and they have come out OK - but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to delete the original faulty ones, which are still attached to the score!
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www.newcarols.com Freelance music therapist and occasional composer. Sibelius 7.13, GPO4, iMac3.06GHz, Evolution MK-149, MacBook Pro
It wouldn't have played through Note Performer unless you'd purchased and installed Note Performer! You have, but you've never used it? It's easy to switch back. I just couldn't be bothered to wait for Sibelius Sounds to load.
Funny, I'm not seeing your faulty Flute and Horn parts at all. But you can delete parts a couple of icons along from where you created the new ones, in the Parts tab.
Yes, I think I got Note Performer a while back, because people recommended it, but I don't think I was that impressed with it initially. I must revisit it - the sounds were very clear and striking, and presumably one can adjust the reverberation.
You seem to have done a great job in smartening up my score and parts in very little time - you must let me know the secret some day! In the end I've made use of your amended version and sent it off with a little more tweaking of parts. So many thanks for that!
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www.newcarols.com Freelance music therapist and occasional composer. Sibelius 7.13, GPO4, iMac3.06GHz, Evolution MK-149, MacBook Pro
Yes, the thing that initially put me off NP was the high default reverb setting. Struck me as a cheap trick to make it sound superficially attractive. But as you say, it can be turned down.
Turning on Magnetic Layout helped a lot. And turning off all the Auto Layout and Auto Breaks stuff. Then, in the Full Score, I temporarily pulled the staff spacing a lot further apart, making it easy to see what was attached where. Finally, skim through each Part tweaking where necessary. The biggest job was putting all dynamics and hairpins below the instrument staves - they were all over the place! There's still room for improvement in that area. Plenty of hairpins lack a dynamic telling them how far to go.
Time is always the enemy - but I eventually got the pdfs off to Norway last night, thanks to your help:)
I was surprised you had to turn on magnetic layout, because I thought it was already on as a default. I'm also still confused about house styles. Your version of the score looks very different from mine - had you changed the house style? Is there a button to click on the ribbon that tells you what house style you're currently using? (If so I can't find it!) I'm tempted to use the 'export house style' button in order to use your set-up for future orchestral scores - but this is something I've never tried before: I always have to set up a new orchestral score from scratch, which probably wastes a lot of time.
A lot of the problems I've encountered with Sibelius relate to scores I originally created a long time ago, from much earlier versions - or even stuff I imported from my unenlightened days with Finale! I often used to copy a line from a vocal part to an instrumental part, and then had to deal with all the dynamics that were in the wrong place. Hopefully I'm getting a bit more competent these days, but you can bet that if there's a long-winded way to do something, I'm sure to find it!!
Thanks again, Laurence.
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www.newcarols.com Freelance music therapist and occasional composer. Sibelius 7.13, GPO4, iMac3.06GHz, Evolution MK-149, MacBook Pro
A "House Style indicator" is often requested, and refused by Sibelius Central on the grounds that a House Style is not a fixed entity, but a collection of hundreds of settings, any one of which could have been changed.
Thinking back on my approach to your score, as part of ny "First, Reset Everything" ethos I may have applied a standard House Style. In fact, the change of text style for the subtitle text suggests that I did. I think I also destroyed all the Parts and created a new set, in the hope that the congested title text might sort itself out (it didn't).
But the House Style didn't really make much difference. I SHOULD have cured the title text collisions by changing margin settings and default positions (I think I did increase the top margin) but much of it was done by dragging the text up and the top stave down. I turned off auto layout settings and manually adjusted some line and page breaks. None of this would be saved in a House Style.
I'm still intrigued by your Flute and Horn parts that wouldn't do multirests. I attach a screenshot of the flute part of your original version alongside my version. There are differences, but they both have multirests!
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