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Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7? - kbundies, 08 Dec 04:16PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Laurence Payne, 08 Dec 06:46PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - CosmosK, 08 Dec 08:35PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 08 Dec 08:47PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - CosmosK, 08 Dec 08:51PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 08 Dec 09:12PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Andy G, 08 Dec 09:45PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Fraser Sims, 08 Dec 10:51PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Bob Morabito, 08 Dec 11:01PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - James, 09 Dec 05:27AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 09 Dec 06:48AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Bob Morabito, 09 Dec 06:54AM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 09 Dec 10:36AM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Laurence Payne, 09 Dec 11:19AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 09 Dec 11:26AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Fraser Sims, 09 Dec 06:29PM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Laurence Payne, 09 Dec 10:18PM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 20 Dec 10:27AM

Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 08 Dec 04:16PM
hello, I am thinking of upgrading the computer system to get a bit faster overall speed. Question: if I want to stay with Mac, which machine would be adequate - either a new Mac mini Dual core i5 or i7 (with 8 or 16 GB RAM) or a „small“ Mac Pro, 12 GB RAM and 4 core processor?
I don’t use sound libraries.
Any advice on what would be useful?
thank you.

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Sibelius 7.1.3 on Mac OSX 10.9.5

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 08 Dec 06:46PM
If you don't use sound libraries and you're only interested in getting notes on paper, it's arguable whether a high-powered computer will make much difference at all. What are you presently using?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by CosmosK - 08 Dec 08:35PM
I have 4Gb ram and a small dual core. I run DAW programs with a few audio channels just fine. Notation software should ask much less of your system.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 08 Dec 08:47PM
at the moment I am using a computer from 2008 (MacBook Pro with 2.4 Intel Core 2 Duo and 8 GB RAM). The computer works fine after 6 years(!), it stalls whilst writing backups and the fan speeds up after having done some work. Still, after 6 years...
In the specs for Sib 7.5 a SSD is been recommended. Is this just for working with sound libraries?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by CosmosK - 08 Dec 08:51PM
my machine is older and slower than yours and I'm using JABB3, working just fine..

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 08 Dec 09:12PM (edited 08 Dec 09:15PM)
the only real reason why I’d like to upgrade might be the noise of the fans who do not really sound healthy. It is also a bit distracting I have to confess...
ps: using the MacBook Pro with lid closed and external screen

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Andy G - 08 Dec 09:45PM
If you're not using the sound libraries, you don't need an SSD.

If the only issue is the noise of the fans, won't it be easier and cheaper to get them fixed?

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Fraser Sims - 08 Dec 10:51PM
Even cheaper, open it up and clean the fans yourself. Takes a couple of minutes and requires no specialist knowledge other than using a screw driver to remove the bottom case.

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G7 on XP, Sibelius 7.1.3 on 10.6.8, and the slightly buggy scorch 1.2 on iOS 6

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Bob Morabito - 08 Dec 11:01PM
>Even cheaper, open it up and clean the fans yourself. Takes a couple of minutes and requires no specialist knowledge other than using a screw driver to remove the bottom case.

This is search for instructions on how to do this, so you can judge the difficulty for yourself:

https://www.google.com/search?q=noisy+fan+on+macbook+pro+2008&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

Thanks Bob

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Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by James - 09 Dec 05:27AM (edited 09 Dec 05:27AM)
Yes, I cleaned my 2009 macbook pro fans and they definitely stopped racing. Well, they only occasionally do so. Just get the special screw driver to open the mac up and then use compressed air to carefully spray out all the dust bunnies.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 09 Dec 06:48AM
@Fraser, Bob and James,

thanks a lot, I’ll do the fan cleaning first - sounds like it is necessary after 72 months...

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Sibelius 7.1.3 on Mac OSX 10.9.5

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Bob Morabito - 09 Dec 06:54AM
You're welcome, for my help:)

Thanks Bob

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Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1
Mac OS 10.9.5 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 09 Dec 10:36AM
I have now cleaned the two fans (attachment shows „before“) and I guess this must have been helpful. Still the fans speed up after a while - I guess the computer does have to do some work.

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Sibelius 7.1.3 on Mac OSX 10.9.5
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 09 Dec 11:19AM
There have been reports elsewhere of expensive damage done to MacBooks by overheating caused by running with the lid shut. Maybe it was one particular model. Yes, I know they SAY you can.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 09 Dec 11:26AM
I have - as a try - restarted the computer in safe mode. Very nice, fans run quite..
But just for a while - then they start spinning up again - some kernel_task keeps the machine busy..

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Fraser Sims - 09 Dec 06:29PM
For me, it's the battery, already replaced it once and replacement is on it's way out again after 18 months.
But I still prefer it to a windows laptop.

;o)
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G7 on XP, Sibelius 7.1.3 on 10.6.8, and the slightly buggy scorch 1.2 on iOS 6

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 09 Dec 10:18PM
Love isn't always rational. Which is fortunate, if you look like me!

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7?
Posted by kbundies - 20 Dec 10:27AM (edited 20 Dec 10:28AM)
I bought the Mac mini now (i7 Processor and 16GB RAM) and I must say, Sibelius runs extremely snappy - had forgotten how well it can work. There was no problem with reactivating Sibelius 7.1.3. I had to go for top specs of this model, as RAM can not be upgraded at a later time. Same with processor. So I am ready for the future (= next five years I guess). So far no issues, machine runs _extremely_ quite (and does hardly use any power by the way).

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Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibelius 7? - kbundies, 08 Dec 04:16PM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Laurence Payne, 08 Dec 06:46PM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - CosmosK, 08 Dec 08:35PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 08 Dec 08:47PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - CosmosK, 08 Dec 08:51PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 08 Dec 09:12PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Andy G, 08 Dec 09:45PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Fraser Sims, 08 Dec 10:51PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Bob Morabito, 08 Dec 11:01PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - James, 09 Dec 05:27AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 09 Dec 06:48AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Bob Morabito, 09 Dec 06:54AM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 09 Dec 10:36AM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Laurence Payne, 09 Dec 11:19AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 09 Dec 11:26AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Fraser Sims, 09 Dec 06:29PM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - Laurence Payne, 09 Dec 10:18PM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Mac mini or Mac Pro for Sibeliu... - kbundies, 20 Dec 10:27AM