In the song I am working on, there is a clarinet in Bb, lyrics and a piano part. I need the score itself be viewed as a transposing score because of the clarinet, but the chord symbols should not be transposed, however they do this because they are attached to the clarinet staff. I attached the score with this post. Is there a way to prevent the chord symbols from transposing?
They do not transpose when I attach them to the piano part, but my publisher wants them above the clarinet staff.
Seems to me that this would be totally confusing for all parties. The clarinettist will have the wrong chords, the singer will have the wrong notes, the guitarist (ukelele/banjoist?) will have the wrong key, and the pianist will wonder why he/she needs all that stuff. Wouldn't a separate clarinet part be a better solution?
> Seems to me that this would be totally confusing for all parties. The clarinettist will have the wrong chords, the singer will have the wrong notes, the guitarist (ukelele/banjoist?) will have the wrong key, and the pianist will wonder why he/she needs all that stuff. Wouldn't a separate clarinet part be a better solution?
Yes, but I assume that the clarinet can play over the pianist's should his correct part like this, while a guitar player will use the chords and for the singer it doesn't matter so much how it looks like on paper. Unless he has perfect hearing.
I cannot make it happen though, I tried all suggestions on this post.
If this is purely for printed output - i.e. no playback required - here's an ingenious solution (see attached score).
Change the clarinet stave to Clarinet in C. Edit its name to Clarinet in Bb (Ctrl b will type the flat on a PC. Don't know about a Mac). Transpose just the Clarinet stave up a tone. Apply a key signature (one stave only) of three sharps to that stave.
If there is to be a seperate Clarinet Part, hide the chord symbols in it. They're no use to the clarinet player anyway. I doubt he'll attempt a jazz chorus!
It's possible to move a object without changing its attachment point by holding Ctrl as you drag it. (Stave-attached objects act this way by default in Parts, which can be very useful.) Chord symbols attached to the piano stave could be positioned over the Clarinet in this way, retaining their association with the piano. But I don't recommend this. It can get messy, and any further adjustment of position resets the attachment to the nearest stave.
I agree with Adrian, what the publisher wants fails dismally in its misguided attempt to be "easy". What the heck, take the money!
Now you have to decide whether to transpose them down a maj.2nd or up a min.7th. ;-) Hey! That was supposed to be a joke, but I've just noticed that the guitar fret boxes don't transpose along with the chord symbols. The ones that are showing on Richard's attachment don't correspond with the chord symbols, but then it's unlikely that anyone will have a Bb banjo.
There is a way... The publisher give me this advice:
Connect the chord symbols to the upper piano staff so the correct chords will show and in the properties window, set the Y-value to about 15.
> There is a way... The publisher give me this advice:
> Connect the chord symbols to the upper piano staff so the correct chords will show and in the properties window, set the Y-value to about 15.
Basically the same as my Ctr-drag suggestion. But Steven's idea is much neater.
> > There is a way... The publisher give me this advice:
> > Connect the chord symbols to the upper piano staff so the correct chords will show and in the properties window, set the Y-value to about 15.
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> Basically the same as my Ctr-drag suggestion. But Steven's idea is much neater.
I tried Steven's idea, but I cannot get it to work.
In the old days you could change the Chord Symbol text style to be non transposing, and this accomplish this.
You can still do with with legacy Chord symbols, which are text objects, but it does not seem to work with Chord Symbol objects that Sib 6 and later use by default.
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Bob
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