'Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?'

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Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above... - André van Haren, 29 Oct 10:04AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 29 Oct 11:45AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - André van Haren, 29 Oct 12:55PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 29 Oct 03:42PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Robin Walker, 29 Oct 04:18PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 29 Oct 04:59PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Bob Zawalich, 29 Oct 06:21PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Kimee, 21 Oct 12:34PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Bob Zawalich, 21 Oct 07:56PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 24 Oct 06:16AM

Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by André van Haren - 29 Oct 10:04AM
In the lines panel there is a slur above and a slur below version, but they still jump on either side of a staff depending on where the note heads are. Is there a way to leave them above or below the staff no matter what
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 29 Oct 11:45AM
I wish!!! I've asked for this countless times, Richard. Slurs are the only articulation you can't force to be 'always above', necessary for easy reading. You get it right (manual flipping) in the score. It goes wrong in the transposed parts. More manual flipping.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by André van Haren - 29 Oct 12:55PM
Than I don't understand why there is a slur above and slur below version. It would be great if this could be adjusted as so many other lines etc in Sibelius.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 29 Oct 03:42PM
Another thing that makes no sense, Richard, is that the short-cut for slur-above is S and slur-below is Shift/S, but whichever one you choose, Sib decides on its position.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 Oct 04:18PM
> slur-below is Shift/S

This hasn't been the case for some time. In current versions, Sibelius ships with "Shift-S" defined to be "End slur" (for terminating sticky slur input).

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 29 Oct 04:59PM
Ah, thanx Robin. The old is still attached to my personal key-press configurations. Must admit, I never use Shift/S. Guess I discovered long ago that it did exactly the same as S on its own.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 29 Oct 06:21PM (edited 29 Oct 06:22PM)
In the old days, before Magnetic Slurs, you had to always choose which slur to use when attaching it to notes. So for the most part, I think that Magnetic Slurs are timesaving devices.

You can still create non-magnetic slurs, and up and down are respected for those. You need to start with no notes selected, then choose a slur from the Lines menu. Choose a down slur and then click on the note where you want it to start.

These will show up in red when you select them. I don't remember the details of these anymore, but it might be useful for you in this situation.

The Reference says this about non-mag slurs:

"Non-magnetic slurs

Although not recommended except for special circumstances, you can also create less intelligent “non-magnetic” slurs by creating a slur with nothing selected with the mouse from the Notations > Line gallery. Non-magnetic slurs don’t snap to notes, and nor do they avoid collisions with notes,beams, accidentals, articulations etc., but they can be useful in some situations.

Non-magnetic slurs appear in red (with a red frame and red handles) when selected, as a hint that you should probably use a magnetic one instead.

If you use Appearance > Design and Position > Reset Position (shortcut Ctrl+Shift+P or xXP) to reset the position of a slur, this also turns it into a magnetic slur if it was non-magnetic."

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Bob

Just a user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 7, Windows 7 Pro SP 1 64 bit, 4 G RAM. Year 2014.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Kimee - 21 Oct 12:34PM
Bob - thanks! I knew it was possible to do but didn't work it out. Thanks :)
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 21 Oct 07:56PM
In general, though, non magnetic slurs are much less useful than magnetic ones if there is a likelihood of pitches changing - the magnetic ones will follow the changes, the non magnetic ones mostly will not.

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Bob

An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 7.5, Windows 7 Pro SP 1 64 bit, 8 G RAM. Year 2015.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above always above?
Posted by Adrian Drover - 24 Oct 06:16AM
I think I spend most of my input time flipping slurs to above notes and staff, and when I have achieved it in the score I have to do it all over again in the transposed parts. The preferred position of all other articulation can be automated in this respect, so why not slurs?
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Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur Above... - André van Haren, 29 Oct 10:04AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 29 Oct 11:45AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - André van Haren, 29 Oct 12:55PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 29 Oct 03:42PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Robin Walker, 29 Oct 04:18PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 29 Oct 04:59PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Bob Zawalich, 29 Oct 06:21PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Kimee, 21 Oct 12:34PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Bob Zawalich, 21 Oct 07:56PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Is it possible to have the Slur A... - Adrian Drover, 24 Oct 06:16AM